NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

[LeonM]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

On the positive side. The graphics look great. NCAA and Madden look better now than they did a few years back. The stadium and players look better.

The running motion still does not look natural. You can see the effects of "locomotion" and it's not positive. It looks artificial when a player cuts or accelerates. You gimmick something in the middle of a play to improve it but when you implement "locomotion". It makes the rest of the play look silly. It's like Pro-Tak. In order to add a feature in the middle of a play, You thrown in some animation tech that doesn't fit and looks out of place.

That's what I see here.

[sportugy]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

Did the video look good....hell no! But I really don't care that very minor details are off a little, as long as they have fixed gameplay, namely line play. My biggest fear is that they haven't done anything in this area as witnessed by the FSU lineman going around the gator OL that just stood their and tried to grind on him, also by the ND fb that tried to throw a block and completely whiffed......this used to be my favorite franchise, but since moving to next-gen it has started getting worse instead of better!

[mike24forever]

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WAKEUP FOLKS!!!! this exclusive rights thing must go let them compete and may the better game win!!!

Post like these should get "pylons" like this banned from the site! What happened to the new TOS? Everything keeps coming back to 2K! Get over it!!!! If you do not like what you see, do not buy the game!

[LBzrule]

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Small things that would have made this video look a lot better.

1) Defensive and Offensive players still do not know how to go around each other. At 00:12 you can tell the DE rushing from the right does not do a good job of going around the TE and then coming up the field on an arc to attack the tackle.

2) 00:15, if the DT actually tried to attack the A gap/inside shoulder of the guard with a pass rush move already in mind that would have made that look a lot better. Too much rock/paper/scissors or I have to do this first then do that in the animations. Why can't a guy be moving and also swinging that club at the same time. The DL still do not seem to round off their pass rushing.

3) 00:17, still too easy to scramble outside with QB's because DE's engage at the damn line. Come on, run up the damn field and turn in!! Same thing happens at 00:23. Actually 2 and 3 are occurring there. The DE does not know how to get around the TE and then run an arc and bull rush into the offensive tackle so he just engages him right there. I'm going to be on them about that mess this year because it was a big gripe last year. Notice how easy the ND QB can move away from the blitzing OLB and that's because the damn DE, rather than running an arc up the field before engaging the Offensive tackle, engages him at the damn line. Come on EA.

4) 00:32, this has been a problem in EA football games that needs to be fixed. This WR is going to get bumped, however he needs to use his arm and also push back against the DB. Don't just get your a$$ thrown to the ground and look like a stumbling, bumbling fool while a nano blitz is coming up the middle and I can't throw it to you on a hot read. #27 plays with no technique on the WR once he's off the jam. Play inside or outside on his damn hip. Nope he just gets in front of the WR and runs the route and if the route has cuts the DB is burned. Post corners, Corner Posts were money vs man coverage in madden 10, if the DB's are not going to play any technique the same will be true in this game.

5) The route running by #82, he's still a little bit too high and he does not explode off the line. He doesn't give you the footwork to make that cut look believable either. Now once he catches the ball, there should be an animation where his spin actually squares him up. He shouldn't be able to spin while running and keep running. His spin should square him up and put him in a position to perform a move.

6) Why does TE #80 get really slow in his route. He comes off too high and not that explosive and then just gets really slow. Can't tell too much but the OL pass blocking looked weird on that play. Need to see it.

7) The Spin move. Ideally the spin move requires the runner to come off the gas. Give some footwork then spin like this

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#11 does not do any of that. He just goes from full sprint into a spin. Do you realize how many ligaments would be destroyed doing that?

It's really small things, that might not be so small on the developmental side, I will admit that, but small things would have made this look a lot better. I think it will look better as a complete package even with the way it is, if the presentation is on point. But there are some game play things that need to be a lot better.

[mtoo22]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

I noticed as of yesterday, EA had posted the Tebow cover on the news section. Today it is gone, presumably to fix the image of him that had been flipped?

[seriousluboy83]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

Small things that would have made this video look a lot better.

1) Defensive and Offensive players still do not know how to go around each other. At 00:12 you can tell the DE rushing from the right does not do a good job of going around the TE and then coming up the field on an arc to attack the tackle.

2) 00:15, if the DT actually tried to attack the A gap/inside shoulder of the guard with a pass rush move already in mind that would have made that look a lot better. Too much rock/paper/scissors or I have to do this first then do that in the animations. Why can't a guy be moving and also swinging that club at the same time. The DL still do not seem to round off their pass rushing.

3) 00:17, still too easy to scramble outside with QB's because DE's engage at the damn line. Come on, run up the damn field and turn in!! Same thing happens at 00:23. Actually 2 and 3 are occurring there. The DE does not know how to get around the TE and then run an arc and bull rush into the offensive tackle so he just engages him right there. I'm going to be on them about that mess this year because it was a big gripe last year. Notice how easy the ND QB can move away from the blitzing OLB and that's because the damn DE, rather than running an arc up the field before engaging the Offensive tackle, engages him at the damn line. Come on EA.

4) 00:32, this has been a problem in EA football games that needs to be fixed. This WR is going to get bumped, however he needs to use his arm and also push back against the DB. Don't just get your a$$ thrown to the ground and look like a stumbling, bumbling fool while a nano blitz is coming up the middle and I can't throw it to you on a hot read. #27 plays with no technique on the WR once he's off the jam. Play inside or outside on his damn hip. Nope he just gets in front of the WR and runs the route and if the route has cuts the DB is burned. Post corners, Corner Posts were money vs man coverage in madden 10, if the DB's are not going to play any technique the same will be true in this game.

5) The route running by #82, he's still a little bit too high and he does not explode off the line. He doesn't give you the footwork to make that cut look believable either. Now once he catches the ball, there should be an animation where his spin actually squares him up. He shouldn't be able to spin while running and keep running. His spin should square him up and put him in a position to perform a move.

6) Why does TE #80 get really slow in his route. He comes off too high and not that explosive and then just gets really slow. Can't tell too much but the OL pass blocking looked weird on that play. Need to see it.

7) The Spin move. Ideally the spin move requires the runner to come off the gas. Give some footwork then spin like this

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#11 does not do any of that. He just goes from full sprint into a spin. Do you realize how many ligaments would be destroyed doing that?

It's really small things, that might not be so small on the developmental side, I will admit that, but small things would have made this look a lot better. I think it will look better as a complete package even with the way it is, if the presentation is on point. But there are some game play things that need to be a lot better.

Standing Ovation

[Bfreecloud]

same old thing.

[Jistic]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

It's Tiburon football. It won't change people. If you're cool with that, then you should be all good. This is why I love me some Gamefly.

[fishepa]

Looks the same to me.

[Bjones84]

some old crap from last yr....and i'm guessing that madden 11 video that comes out thurs midnight, it's going to be the same thing, get everyone hyped up for nothing

[LBzrule]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

With outside Linebackers in 3-4 and DE's in 4-3 defenses this is what we should be seeing as they rush the passer:



Actually let me qualify. With the 4-3 it should be this way as long as you do not pinch the line or shift it one way or another. If you pinch it you should get guys running an arc because they are way out of position to do so. If he shift it one way, you should get that outside guy running the arc, but not the DE who is now lined up inside of the OT because of the shift. Other qualifications can also be made. For instance, in the NCAA video when the OLB pressures the ND QB, it looks like the defensive front was 4-3 over with the backer on the line of scrimmage blitzing. You definitely do not want that DE on that side running the arc. However you do want the open DE running it so that the QB can't easily move away from the pressure and throw back across his body for a complete pass

Here is what we should be seeing out there on the edge out of 3-4 OLB's and 4-3 DE's.
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Double Swipe

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[sportyguyfl31]

Eh. The safety didnt close on the Notre Dame receiver until AFTER he caught the ball.

It was nice to see a RDE actually beat a tackle with a move.

[ScoobySnax]

I knew as soon as I clicked this link, there was going to be mass hysteria! SMH.

[jmill703]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

LoL I viewed that video, and was thinking "Wow, the OS regulars are going to trash this video so bad..."

[kindella2]

Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

i knew that after a vid showed all of the hype would be destroyed...not saying that the people on here saying its horrible are right or wrong...its just that i figured everyone would dissect this video like a high school and thats funny to me.

Overall it seems better and the same...saw too many of the same hits and yeah that spin animation was horrible. I would hope they would get some teammate celebrations. That ref almost got killed on the punt return. i dont think the DE/OL or the WR/DB interaction will ever be up to our standards but as long as it improves slighty.