Backbreaker Conference Call

[BrianFifaFan]

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No sharing. Bad news... PES has been able to overcome it's license limitations by allowing option files. I'm not trying to sound lazy, but I don't want to try and make my own NFL. I'd rather download one made by someone with talent for it. Huge Buzzkill.......

[JayBee74]

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I don't think it will change too much. There are still as many as 5 different wrs, teams still can and will have a big power back for short yardage and fast receiving backs to change up the defense. Even at qb you can have a Michael Vick/Pat White come in a throw a couple passes a game.

Your right about the tackling, not to mention the camera and controls should make playing defense and running the ball alot of fun. Total customization to recreate the NFL offline as well.

I pretty much counted out fatigue and injuries for this game, and 90% of my local 2 Player offline games have fatigue and injuries OFF. No hot routes? Big Deal-if nobody else (CPU or Human) has them, just go with the available playbook. Fatigue???-Has Anybody done this right? A case could be made for even a bad fatigue system preventing you from running your stud RB 40 times a game, but how accurate is the system? The answer is it's not accurate. Nothings changed- 1st day purchase for me.

[JayBee74]

Re: Backbreaker Conference Call at 2:15 EDT!

How come No one ever believed the Backbreaker Devs when they said this would be a Arcade game? Seriously, how can any of this be a shock.

No Injuries and No Fatigue Do Not An Arcade Game Make.

[JayBee74]

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Madden laid down the groundwork years ago though, so that argument is completely invalid.

I'd compare it to a new car company coming out and not having power steering, anti-lock breaks, or power windows. It may be the nicest car in the world with a beautiful body, sick wheels, and a terrific transmission, but no one wants to drive a car today without power steering or anti-lock breaks. And people would expect power windows in a car that nice. Would you give the excuse then that Ford has had over 100 years and still has recalls and some poor products and that we should give this new car company some time? Sure, that may be the case that Ford doesn't make a tremendous product, but it still does certain things right that you expect other companies to do as well.

What groundwork? The BB developers are going inside the Madden Code for a look at a below average fatigue and injury system?
UPDATE:By the way, thanks for the conference call MMChrisS.

[SouthernBrick]

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No fatigue. That blows pretty bad.

[JMD]

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What a colossal disappointment this generation of video football gaming has been.

First EA, which has put out pretty much garbage for five years plus. Then AP2k8, a game I enjoyed, but was too limited in its single player mode to last. And now BB leaves out basic fundamentals to football gaming.

I give up. By the time someone puts out an all around “good” football game, I’ll be in a nursing home.


F%&#@&!# NFL and their damn license.

I couldn't agree more. I'm disappointed with what we learned today about Backbreaker but I'm still going to buy it and check it out. This exclusive license thing really needs to come to an end. I don't mean to beat a dead horse but I can only imagine what football games from 2k and even Microsofts NFL fever would be like if they had kept developing every year.

[EyeAmBaldman]

I find it interesting people are dissing this game for mostly lame reasons. No Challenges! For shame! Who freakin' cares? This is NOT an NFL-licensed game. There's nothing that says they HAVE to put challenges in there. The challenge system in Madden is terribly flawed anyway! With BB, they're focused on GAMEPLAY, something EA hasn't done in YEARS. You're basing your flaws based on an already flawed Madden game. Injuries and Fatigue...a problem? Not really. Madden has NEVER handled this properly so why bitch about it? Yeah, they had 3 years to work on this game...and they worked on GAMEPLAY...let me say that again...GAMEPLAY!!!!! Let's hope the gameplay is good...hell, it's gotta be better than Madden in this aspect!

[DickDalewood]

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Lol, it amazes me how many excuses people will make up for this game lacking SO much because they want SO badly for it to be good. Meanwhile, another game will have the wrong colored shoelaces and it's a game killer

[EyeAmBaldman]

Everyone WANTS it to be good. Whether it is or not, we'll see when it's released. No one's going to know until they play it. Again, it can't be worse than Madden!

[JayhawkerStL]

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Pretty much what I figured. there was just no way that this game was going to be compelling simulation of football out of the gates. I expected to play around wit ht eh game as rental, but never had an inkling that this was going to be the game I was hoping for.

I'm wanting to see Madden go more in the Football Pro direction. BB is clearly more of a Blitz type game that might become a full featured game down the road.

No matter how cool the animations are, this game will have zero effect on Madden.

The main reason I had no expectations for this game was that their focus was clearly on animations and graphics. There was no buzz about realistic formations or stats. So really, it is a tech demo.

[DickDalewood]

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Everyone WANTS it to be good. Whether it is or not, we'll see when it's released. No one's going to know until they play it. Again, it can't be worse than Madden!

Haha, yes, yes it can.

[prowler]

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This is shaping up to be like the first (and only) TNA wrestling game and AP2K8; it'll get love from the diehards but that's about it. I asked about it at EB and they thought I was talking about that old EA boxing game.

[DickDalewood]

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Three words come to mind:

Glorified. Tech. Demo.

We'll see though I suppose.

Pretty much what I figured. there was just no way that this game was going to be compelling simulation of football out of the gates. I expected to play around wit ht eh game as rental, but never had an inkling that this was going to be the game I was hoping for.

I'm wanting to see Madden go more in the Football Pro direction. BB is clearly more of a Blitz type game that might become a full featured game down the road.

No matter how cool the animations are, this game will have zero effect on Madden.

The main reason I had no expectations for this game was that their focus was clearly on animations and graphics. There was no buzz about realistic formations or stats. So really, it is a tech demo.

Exactly.

[SemperVictoria]

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Lol, it amazes me how many excuses people will make up for this game lacking SO much because they want SO badly for it to be good. Meanwhile, another game will have the wrong colored shoelaces and it's a game killer

Uh, the "another game" has had over half a decade and still can't produce a quality football title. Shoot, wasn't it just a couple of years ago that Madden's fatigue was FUBAR. And though I'm very disappointed with this news regarding BB, no way in hell would I purchase the other game--just waaaay too many things wrong with it.

[jfsolo]

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No Injuries and No Fatigue Do Not An Arcade Game Make.

Yeah, it does. Hey, buy the game, enjoy the hell out of it, end up thinking its one of the best(or maybe even the best) football games you've ever played, but lets call it what it is. Arcade has somehow become a pejorative term, synonymous with being inferior, but that shouldn't be the case.

You can love the physics engine, the camera angle, and other game play design decisions, but a football game designed without fatigue or injuries can not be called a simulation.

Even if your game isn't trying to mimic the NFL, if you're trying to accurately mimic any sport, fatigue and injuries are a must. People often get hurt, and always get tired playing football. Unless your name is Kal-El.