NCAA Football 11 Video: Gameplay Footage

[edaddy]

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No offense to the Community guys that are here, but each year they blow nothing but hot air in this and other forums like it. They have yet to ever call it like it is and nothing they say should ever be taken as fact. They are nothing more than an extension to the marketing team at EA.

That video for example...

They say they are not allowed under NDA to disclose anything about the game, but they sure as heck will jump in the fire with both feet to defend something that is released that other players dont agree with.

There has not been one year yet that the community day people have been upfront and genuine about the game, and I dont expect this year to buck the trend.

He is right for the most part..I have only seen maybe two guys who have evr come back from the Community day event tell it like it really is..for the most part it's the same storyline evry year from the same people...and one part I really agree with is how some of them are quick to defend a negaticve that comes out befoe the game is released ..or say thats not what I saw on community day..lol

[moylan1234]

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No offense to the guys who attend Community Day but they say this every year and magically something happens in between the time they played the game nd the time it hits the stores..So like others I take it with a grain of salt..

but typically they say that about official vids, I don't consider this to be an official vid so I'm just waiting until we see something more official that's all I was trying to say. Also there are guys who haven't attended a cd before saying the same things.

[mgoblue678]

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He all but called the folks who attended the CD shills and liars. How could anybody not take offense to that?

I guess I just don't see the point in getting offended over something that somebody types on a forum. I agree it may be too harsh and it not as intentional on the part of the CD guys as he puts it, but like I said I don't see how getting offended over a post really accomplishes anything.

And once again regardless of the motivation of the guys attending CD it is still something that happens. I rarely hear about the flaws in the retail version when we hear information coming from CD.

[TooSmart]

im sorry but it looks absolutely terrible.....no significant difference from last year's weak title

[Crimsontide27]

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He all but called the folks who attended the CD shills and liars. How could anybody not take offense to that?

You want disagree with my point, or just find something pointless to debate about? I dont have any issue whatsoever in digging up all the names of the community day people over the last few years and quote their post history in all its glory. They will post that " this was fixed" on multiple fronts, yet we get the copy in our hands and it wasnt fixed. Then somehow its like the all called each other on the batphone to come to the forums to defend themselves by adding that " the retail copy" of the build somehow excluded every postive thing they posted about, and we just bought the beta build. Ive seen excuses range from they changed overnight , to EA must have made a mistake a sent the wrong freaking build to the cd presses. Until the community guys earn some respect and trust, they get nonein return. Fool me once, shame on you....fool me twice...shame on me.

Each year its the same song and dance.

I guess if everyone wants to get all offended around here, I guess I could get offended by being flat out lied to every year by some of these people who are " in the know " . I choose not to though because after several years, I have learned my lesson.

I can pull up posts from many community day people over the years that have either flat out lied, given " mis-information or whatever you call it so it doesnt sound offensive, or changed their stories once everyone got the game and called them out on it.... Only thing stopping me from doing it is that I enjoy OS and have enjoyed it for the past 6 years and dont feel like getting banned because some people will get their feelings hurt, or " offended " as you put it.

[Bruce Wayne Jr]

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ok guys, let's take a deep breath

[RynoAid]

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It's not that we don't want to talk about what we saw, but the NDA prevents me from saying anything about the game other than discussing the features they release...

it's not like i can give you a review and break down everything i saw and what needed to be improved on. I can only speak to things like lighting, locomotion and the other bits and pieces they keep releasing.

This was my first community day, im not sure what happened in the past, but im not shilling for anyone, i'm just stating my experiences with the features as they release info about them and trying to answer specific questions that relate to those features.

[ODogg]

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Ryno - sounds like the way EA sets you guys up then is that you have not choice but to be their mouthpieces. And that's just plain wrong. If they can't let the community day be what it is intended to be then they should just quit having them IMO.

[RynoAid]

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Ryno - sounds like the way EA sets you guys up then is that you have not choice but to be their mouthpieces. And that's just plain wrong. If they can't let the community day be what it is intended to be then they should just quit having them IMO.

i think the intention of community day is being misunderstood at this point. Back in the day, it use to be a one day event held very late in the production cycle to help market the game just before release.

but now it's evolved into a 3 day event held much earlier in the development cycle that is intended to provide feedback to the development team about the game, new features and what needs to be worked on or improved before they start finalizing their work...

i don't think it's a marketing deal anymore, in fact, they really discourage us from telling people were going, and then after, yea, they don't want us talking about things we worked with them on until after they release info on the features... who knows, things could be totally different now from when i saw them... heck i play 3 builds in 3 days while i was there, each one different.

[jfsolo]

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Anyone who feels like a company (or their "mouthpieces") has lied to them or misrepresented their product, should really take a stand and never purchase a product from that company ever again. Period. It should be about principle.

If you let a company "dupe" or "swindle" you over and over again because you need to have your "football fix" then you're just a... {Insert over the top internet hyperbolic statement here.}

[rolltideryan]

guys look in the back of this video...... its waaaaay better you guys should chill

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJcKwP3vpGs

[ODogg]

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jfsolo, I know you're probably not speaking directly to me but rather in general but I have not felt like, in most cases anyways, that EA has ever swindled me in regards to NCAA. The game is not where I want it to be. However with any big company it's definitely buyer beware and as many have pointed out in this thread, they will manipulate any advantage they can. That doesn't necessarily mean they are lying. It just means they are manipulating the situation to their advantage. I think that's what "community day" has become.

Ryno - You make a good point. It's not really community day anymore. It's beta tester day. A community day implies that you are a liason between the developers and the community. That is not what you or others are with all of the NDA stuff. You are basically a beta tester with input. They should quit calling it community day starting next year IMO.

[coogrfan]

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You want disagree with my point, or just find something pointless to debate about? I dont have any issue whatsoever in digging up all the names of the community day people over the last few years and quote their post history in all its glory. They will post that " this was fixed" on multiple fronts, yet we get the copy in our hands and it wasnt fixed. Then somehow its like the all called each other on the batphone to come to the forums to defend themselves by adding that " the retail copy" of the build somehow excluded every postive thing they posted about, and we just bought the beta build. Ive seen excuses range from they changed overnight , to EA must have made a mistake a sent the wrong freaking build to the cd presses. Until the community guys earn some respect and trust, they get nonein return. Fool me once, shame on you....fool me twice...shame on me.

Each year its the same song and dance.

I guess if everyone wants to get all offended around here, I guess I could get offended by being flat out lied to every year by some of these people who are " in the know " . I choose not to though because after several years, I have learned my lesson.

I can pull up posts from many community day people over the years that have either flat out lied, given " mis-information or whatever you call it so it doesnt sound offensive, or changed their stories once everyone got the game and called them out on it.... Only thing stopping me from doing it is that I enjoy OS and have enjoyed it for the past 6 years and dont feel like getting banned because some people will get their feelings hurt, or " offended " as you put it.

Seems to me that if you are truly worried about getting banned, the thing to do is refrain from making disparaging remarks about people you don't even know.

As for the rest I'll just say that your post is a perfect example of why I wouldn't go to a CD event if you paid me. Imo it's an utterly thankless task.

[ODogg]

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I'll go to a "Community Day" and say whatever EA wants me to say. I'm comfortable being a shill for insider and advanced knowledge. Not saying the CD guys now are, just saying *I* WOULD be :P

[coogrfan]

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I'll go to a "Community Day" and say whatever EA wants me to say. I'm comfortable being a shill for insider and advanced knowledge. Not saying the CD guys now are, just saying *I* WOULD be :P

Good to know.