An Early Peek Into Madden NFL 11's Quarterback Ratings

[Palo20]

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Seems I agree with the experts more than the Madden Dev team. Tom Brady has the most stamina?

Ask Gisele....

Shouldn't Jamarcus still have the strongest arm? Did he lose arm strength since last year? Accuracy is obviously another story.

[Boregard]

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Anyone besides me think AWR needs to be a much bigger factor in the OVR rating???

I would think that AWR is pretty close with Accuracy in importance

I would say it needs to be AWR 30 percent, accuracy 30 percent, throw power 20 percent and the rest factored in much smaller amounts

toughness/stamina like 2.5 percent total agility is the only other one on there that should be substantial but how does it translate in Madden unless you scramble?

Elusiveness for QBs coupled with agility could allow your QB to auto evade sacks and that would be really cool because the pocket juke crap hardly ever works.

Anyways, awareness should be much higher I think, not that the numbers they are giving out are actual, but if they are they are hugely under representing AWR in the OVR!!!

[Palo20]

Re: An Early Peek Into Madden NFL 11's Quarterback Ratings

Anyone besides me think AWR needs to be a much bigger factor in the OVR rating???

I would think that AWR is pretty close with Accuracy in importance

I would say it needs to be AWR 30 percent, accuracy 30 percent, throw power 20 percent and the rest factored in much smaller amounts

toughness/stamina like 2.5 percent total agility is the only other one on there that should be substantial but how does it translate in Madden unless you scramble?

Elusiveness for QBs coupled with agility could allow your QB to auto evade sacks and that would be really cool because the pocket juke crap hardly ever works.

Anyways, awareness should be much higher I think, not that the numbers they are giving out are actual, but if they are they are hugely under representing AWR in the OVR!!!

I agree on your breakdown.

Also, how are short, medium, and deep accuracy factored into OVR? What does the THA rating even do if we have the other ones?

[Boregard]

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I agree on your breakdown.

Also, how are short, medium, and deep accuracy factored into OVR? What does the THA rating even do if we have the other ones?

That is a good point as well - I guess if it was done correctly that THA would be a straight average of the three individual ratings and it would fluctuate as progression/regression impacted the other three - like a general overview quick reference gauge type deal and really have little to no impact!

[Bellsprout]

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Aaron Rodgers #4.

I love it. And I love that he's above Favre. Means nothing, but it still makes me happy.

[SouthernBrick]

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This a top ten list bro. And are you kidding me. Russel has not done anything good since been drafted #1 overall a few years ago. He will have a low rating this year. He is way overpaid. He needs to be traded to a team that has a real good coaching staff that can help him get his skills up. That will not happen with the raiders. But because the way he has played since been in the NFL and because of his large contract. No team is going to touch him. He is wasting away in oakland.

You always have to bang your head against the wall? I've seen that smiley in so many of your posts now.

[Palo20]

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You always have to bang your head against the wall? I've seen that smiley in so many of your posts now.

Leading the nation in emoticons

[monkeybutlerz]

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I was expecting Jamarcus, Cutler and Flacco to beat Stafford in throwing power.

[NavigatorD83]

i think they got confused on the throw power by when it is you release the ball. sure you dont have to have a cannon but if you dont you have to have the timing

[splff3000]

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WTF? Did Jamarcus's arm fall off? How did Stafford's arm strength get better than his? This is what frustrates me sometimes. In the last roster update, JR had the highest throwing power, I believe. I know it was higher than Stafford's. So what happened between now and then? Nothing. So why is Stafford's thp the highest in the game now? Because the devs just want it to be. There's no other explanantion. Besides that, what did Stafford do last year to even be considered for having the highest thp? If I had to concede it to someone, it would definitely be Jay Cutler.

[Tengo Juego]

Re: An Early Peek Into Madden NFL 11's Quarterback Ratings

Top Ten Quarterbacks in Madden NFL 11 by Overall Rating
4. Aaron Rodgers

I found it humoring that the NFL greats questioned a lot of EA's reasonings for ratings, or how they rated a particular player...

Marino, Montana and Brees pretty much all disagreed with Madden's assessment of Young as the most agile quarterback, but chances are they've never tried to stop the guy from the other side of the ball.

On a different note, no one on stage could wrap their head around how the Madden development team defined stamina and used it in their game. I'm not sure what was so difficult about it.

The other guys didn't seem to agree that Stafford had the best arm in the league. Brees and Marino thought Jay Cutler deserved the honor as he really does have a cannon.

EDIT: Also, another note to mention is at the very end Ahearn let us know:

We'll have more on Madden NFL 11 very soon, with my full hands-on preview hitting the 'Net on Monday, April 26th.

[Senator Palmer]

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WTF? Did Jamarcus's arm fall off? How did Stafford's arm strength get better than his?

This right here and disconnect between what the NFL QB's thought was important and what EA puts it's weight behind has irked me for years and might be at the heart of the problem because Madden has turned into a game where speed and things like THP overrule the nuances that give a "supposed" slow player like Jerry Rice or a pop-gunned arm quarterback like Montana the edge over their competition.

How many of us would take a quarterback or wr high in the draft if we see an 85 speed rating or a 83 thp? I like that they've finally stretched the ratings out, but more weight should be thrown behind agility and acceleration for receivers, because I've seen a guy like Marques Colston beat guys on a streak but can't get it going in Madden.

And you're 100% right on Russell. EA seems to tie performance behind a player's physical gifts. Like Brady going from a 92thp to a 99thp the year he throws 50 tds, or Cedric Benson beginning the year with 85 spd, then when he started to break out, he's tweaked to 89 spd.

Here's hoping Drew Brees, 88 thp, doesn't wind up with 99 thp in the game (for the record he's always been underrated - should be 90)

[SA1NT401]

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hopefully they (EA) will make awareness actually worth something. As it is now...Pointless.

[SouthernBrick]

Rivers @ number 5.

Me like.

I wouldn't be surprised If the only thing separating Rivers from being over or tied with Rodgers is speed.

[Boregard]

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Rivers @ number 5.

Me like.

I wouldn't be surprised If the only thing separating Rivers from being over or tied with Rodgers is speed.

You may be right, and to me speed should absolutely have no affect on a QB's OVR rating - here that EA ZERO effect on OVR.

Should be maybe 2% of QBs OVR rating at the highest!