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  • johnprestonevans
    Pro
    • Oct 2008
    • 529

    #166
    Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

    Hahaha. "Im a husband....Madden 11 was my idea." Gold!

    It feels as if the developers at Tiburon have had their decisions taken out of their hands by the executive commitee at EA. They all sat down at a table and the head honchos said "Ok boys, our numbers were off last year. We need to go back, retool, and get that casual gaming market back. Make it Simple. Make it Quick. and throw the word Deeper to appease our current hardcore market." It's all about making money. I dont think that is a bad thing, but i do not approve of the path they seem to be taking with Madden 11. Instead of improving the depth and authenticity of the game, they are dumbing it down to get sales.

    Unfortunately, when a company has no focus with a game, and it attempts to get any and all people to buy it, then end up missing the mark. This happens to movies all the time when they are driven by market research, demograhic profiling and over simplification. You simply CANNOT satisfy all of the people all of the time.

    I feel they should have an "EASY" mode that makes the game simple and quick. (They have easy already, but hey...). And then keep pounding away at last year's lofty mantra to bring "Everything we see on Sunday" home to Madden NFL. Add in real time presentation like MLB The Show. Network presentation. etc...

    Dont get me wrong. I dont want Madden to fail. I have been waiting for a great NFL game since 2K5. I want Madden to be amazing again. I just feel frustrated by all these empty promises made about the game every year. If we could go back 1 year and see the hype generated by promising a real NFL experience, compared to now when we have...simpler, quicker...and um...deeper. : (
    Last edited by johnprestonevans; 04-23-2010, 07:42 AM.

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    • Mr_Riddick
      Pro
      • Jan 2009
      • 1173

      #167
      Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

      Honestly, I'm not worried.

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      • Hova57
        MVP
        • Mar 2008
        • 3754

        #168
        Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

        i liked the video , i don't the point was to show more than what was talked about. they didn't let everything out.

        I think some guys are losing sight of the gameplan thing. you can setup as a normal or game to game. I think this will tie into franchise somehow.

        Graphically i really don't know what people were looking for. I thought madden 10 graphics were good . with the exeception of grass looking a little more real. I didn't expect a graphics change.

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        • Lethal Injectionz
          Banned
          • Jan 2010
          • 7

          #169
          When does the Exclusive License expire????

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          • TheWatcher
            MVP
            • Oct 2008
            • 3408

            #170
            Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

            Two things:

            1. I think the spin move in Madden either needs to be taken out or its effectiveness taken WAY, WAY down. Players just don't use spin moves to avoid tackles even remotely as frequently as it happens in Madden... not even remotely. Something needs to be done here... maybe make spins nearly impossible to pull off in general, and then moreso for players that normally don't do them like Brandon Jacobs... something.

            2. The GameFlow feature is a great idea. As you can extract from the video, I think they're looking at it as a feature for the casual, but this concept also fits a very sim mentality in my opinion. I'm hoping this feature will have a number of customization options for its visual presentation. I can't stress enough how important it is to sell things to the user visually... this is an approach Madden team has struggled with mightily for 2 generations now.

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            • ChicagoChris
              60526
              • Jul 2002
              • 1547

              #171
              Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

              Originally posted by Pacman83
              Lol @ this thread.
              Agreed! Bunch of guys making a buying decision after a 1 minute teaser video from a game that doesn't ship for almost 4 months...

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              • Hova57
                MVP
                • Mar 2008
                • 3754

                #172
                Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

                Originally posted by TheWatcher
                Two things:

                1. I think the spin move in Madden either needs to be taken out or its effectiveness taken WAY, WAY down. Players just don't use spin moves to avoid tackles even remotely as frequently as it happens in Madden... not even remotely. Something needs to be done here... maybe make spins nearly impossible to pull off in general, and then moreso for players that normally don't do them like Brandon Jacobs... something.

                2. The GameFlow feature is a great idea. As you can extract from the video, I think they're looking at it as a feature for the casual, but this concept also fits a very sim mentality in my opinion. I'm hoping this feature will have a number of customization options for its visual presentation. I can't stress enough how important it is to sell things to the user visually... this is the one lesson Madden team has struggled with mightily for 2 generations now.

                i think it will end up being very strategic . you can set everything up yourself or go with they have programmed , which probably translates into franchise of teams have gameplans and tendancies. hopefully means scouting

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                • ScoobySnax
                  #faceuary2014
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 7624

                  #173
                  Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

                  LOL @ people saying BB will "blow Madden out of the water". This is going to be a good game just like M10 was. Also about presentation, I am hopeful that they just used M10 layouts on top of M11 so they wouldn't blow the network presentation announcement later on.

                  They have to fix the O-line/D-Line though. QBs should not be able to roll and chuck w/o getting clobbered by a D-end. Running animations were improved in my opinion. I want to see the defense get an overhaul. It always seems that everything is for the offense. I need more options on D to counteract the over-powered offenses.
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                  • roadman
                    *ll St*r
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 26339

                    #174
                    Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

                    Meh, I wasn't impressed or depressed about the trailer.

                    Just didn't get a wow factor at this time.

                    Seems to be enough tightening up to do between now and July.

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                    • Bgamer90
                      MVP
                      • Jul 2008
                      • 1919

                      #175
                      Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

                      Originally posted by monkeybutlerz
                      Sure there wasn't a huge sample size to draw from, but people were able to easily find obvious flaws reoccurring from past iterations of the game (not a good sign). They selected what video to show us and they present us with a snippet where Colston is warping all over the place right after the snap. It doesn't take the eye of Sherlock Holmes to notice this.
                      What I'm saying though is how I don't get people putting final impressions of the game (the features it will have, how the players will interact with each other through out the whole game, etc.). so soon. That's all. If you do it then I could really care less but all I'm saying is that I don't get it.

                      All of the features of the game haven't been said yet and some are acting like gameflow will be the only change when it obviously won't be.

                      Also, another question, what if a full 4 qtr game video that they show in the future looks better than the 15-20 sec. of gameplay we see here?

                      Will the guys that say Madden 11 will be the "same crap" change their tune?

                      Anyways did anyon else notice the score of the game? Wonder what difficulty level they were playing on...
                      Last edited by Bgamer90; 04-23-2010, 08:57 AM.
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                      • ch46647
                        MVP
                        • Aug 2006
                        • 3515

                        #176
                        Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

                        Is it just me or does it looked like they pulled the camera back similar to the old PS2 days? When the QB drops back to pass you can see the entire field now, including the flats out of the back field on both sides...

                        I dont recall having that view when passing in Madden 10.

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                        • grunt
                          Banned
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 9527

                          #177
                          Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

                          Originally posted by ChicagoChris
                          Agreed! Bunch of guys making a buying decision after a 1 minute teaser video from a game that doesn't ship for almost 4 months...
                          but you do realize that the game is going gold in less than 90 days. The game we are seeing now is the game that we are going to get. This based on the fact that games are usually done 30 days before the shipment and we all have done this song and dance for the last 7 years or so.

                          I still think Madden will be a solid game but the mind blowing game. I am still deciding if this is a 60 dollars buy for me.

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                          • grunt
                            Banned
                            • Jul 2002
                            • 9527

                            #178
                            Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

                            Originally posted by roadman
                            Meh, I wasn't impressed or depressed about the trailer.

                            Just didn't get a wow factor at this time.

                            Seems to be enough tightening up to do between now and July.
                            We need you balance views during these tough times. You know how fan men jump off cliffs when we get the first 1 minute trailer.

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                            • TooSmart
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2009
                              • 185

                              #179
                              for all you guys with hope saying how there is 4 months left and its too early to judge.....you will be the first ones on this forum complaining when the final product comes out cause its always the same thing. madden is like a cheating girlfriend that we just can't seem to break up with and keep hoping that things will get better....they won't. it doesn't matter if its 4 months or 4 years, EA doesn't know how to make a football game period.

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                              • bxgoods
                                Pro
                                • May 2009
                                • 538

                                #180
                                Re: Madden NFL 11 Exclusive Debut Trailer

                                Just watched it again, the RB animations look great.
                                If the fix the DB/WR route running and defending animations, and fix the 3-4 defenses. I'm going to be buying this 1st day, I skipped out on Madden 10.

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