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  • thedude213
    Rookie
    • Jul 2007
    • 119

    #106
    Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

    Originally posted by Exonerated
    Its sad that the Iphone 3GS is only faster and cheaper. Its what the Iphone 3G should have been. I wish apple would cut with all these 'innovative features' and create a better phone.
    Please, EA is constantly creating features that add nothing to game play and are usually turned off...few examples..."vision cone", "player skill icons", "backtrack", "fight for the fumble", "Madden IQ", etc. Madden should stop trying to mask their gameplay flaws with pointless features, and just spend a year fixing the AI problems and clunky animations.

    But I guess EA can continue this trend while fans are in the dark, because people will buy Madden every year even though gameplay hasn't been improved that drastically since they started on next gen.

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    • roadman
      *ll St*r
      • Aug 2003
      • 26339

      #107
      Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

      Originally posted by thedude213
      Please, EA is constantly creating features that add nothing to game play and are usually turned off...few examples..."vision cone", "player skill icons", "backtrack", "fight for the fumble", "Madden IQ", etc. Madden should stop trying to mask their gameplay flaws with pointless features, and just spend a year fixing the AI problems and clunky animations.

      But I guess EA can continue this trend while fans are in the dark, because people will buy Madden every year even though gameplay hasn't been improved that drastically since they started on next gen.
      I wouldn't put vision cone on that list, especially around OS. A lot of people at OS liked that feature.

      Also, it's too easy to criticize something that hasn't been tried out , yet, isn't it?

      If you "think" you won't enjoy gameplan, don't use it. Leave it as an option, though, if others like it.

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      • adembroski
        49ers
        • Jul 2002
        • 5829

        #108
        Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

        Originally posted by Valdarez
        The Strategy Pad is for all those guys that have been complaining about the lack of strategy in Madden.
        It's a PAD for STRATEGY! SEE! There is now STRATEGY in Madden! See! The word STRATEGY is right there in the game!!!

        I'd have preferred the Strategery Pod.
        There are two types of people on OS: Those who disagree with me, and those who agree.

        The first kind is wrong. The second is superfluous.

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        • huskerwr38
          MVP
          • Mar 2009
          • 1549

          #109
          Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

          Originally posted by thedude213
          Please, EA is constantly creating features that add nothing to game play and are usually turned off...few examples..."vision cone", "player skill icons", "backtrack", "fight for the fumble", "Madden IQ", etc. Madden should stop trying to mask their gameplay flaws with pointless features, and just spend a year fixing the AI problems and clunky animations.

          But I guess EA can continue this trend while fans are in the dark, because people will buy Madden every year even though gameplay hasn't been improved that drastically since they started on next gen.
          I do agree with you to a certain extent. Just like last year I thought fight for the fumble was going to be a good feature that will make the game more realistic and we all know how that turned out. Like this year, I think gameflow will be a good feature and make it more sim, but we'll see.

          It is funny that most of those features were highly touted and now we don't even see them anymore or people just don't use them. But I guess if you throw enough crap against the wall some of it will stick.

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          • MattIntellect
            MVP
            • May 2009
            • 2236

            #110
            Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

            Originally posted by Phixius
            EA didn't mentioned anything about franchise the last 3 years and nothing has change, so it's safe to assume that the same is likely to happen again.
            I don't know if it's that safe to assume just yet, considering that usually EA Sports releases its best Madden features at E3 or later. Last year at E3, if I can remember correctly, Josh Looman said that his goal is to make both online and offline Franchise Mode the best you'd ever want to play. I really don't think that they just left the mode practically the same with better tuning. I think/hope a few of the Head Coach 09 features might make its way into franchise mode this year.
            -Matt

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            • Valdarez
              All Star
              • Feb 2008
              • 5075

              #111
              Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

              Originally posted by adembroski
              It's a PAD for STRATEGY! SEE! There is now STRATEGY in Madden! See! The word STRATEGY is right there in the game!!!

              I'd have preferred the Strategery Pod.
              Madden 11 - Quicker, Simpler, & Deeper!!! To ease the pain of GameFlow, Madden 11 has added a new Strategy Pad.

              I think I might be the only one seeing the humor with their terminology. You think marketing would have learned after the iPad jokes.
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              • MJenness
                Banned
                • Apr 2006
                • 925

                #112
                Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

                Originally posted by MattIntellect
                I don't know if it's that safe to assume just yet, considering that usually EA Sports releases its best Madden features at E3 or later. Last year at E3, if I can remember correctly, Josh Looman said that his goal is to make both online and offline Franchise Mode the best you'd ever want to play. I really don't think that they just left the mode practically the same with better tuning. I think/hope a few of the Head Coach 09 features might make its way into franchise mode this year.
                And how did that turn out for us??

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                • MattIntellect
                  MVP
                  • May 2009
                  • 2236

                  #113
                  Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

                  Originally posted by MJenness
                  And how did that turn out for us??
                  I think he said something about coming over from Head Coach 09 about midway through the middle of the development cycle to tune Madden and add a few things to it. I think this year, he'll really get the chance to work his magic. As far as my previous comment, I was explaining his future goal, not what he already did with Madden 10.
                  -Matt

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                  • TracerBullet
                    One Last Job
                    • Jun 2009
                    • 22119

                    #114
                    Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

                    Originally posted by Valdarez
                    Madden 11 - Quicker, Simpler, & Deeper!!! To ease the pain of GameFlow, Madden 11 has added a new Strategy Pad.

                    I think I might be the only one seeing the humor with their terminology. You think marketing would have learned after the iPad jokes.
                    You're definently on fire today Valdarez.
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                    I feel weird for liking a post about exposed penises.

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                    • Phixius
                      Banned
                      • Jul 2009
                      • 438

                      #115
                      Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

                      Originally posted by MattIntellect
                      I don't know if it's that safe to assume just yet, considering that usually EA Sports releases its best Madden features at E3 or later. Last year at E3, if I can remember correctly, Josh Looman said that his goal is to make both online and offline Franchise Mode the best you'd ever want to play. I really don't think that they just left the mode practically the same with better tuning. I think/hope a few of the Head Coach 09 features might make its way into franchise mode this year.
                      Ian Cummings also said that EA has put over 10,000 animations for a Madden game 4 years ago and yet we're left with watching the same animations maybe 10-20 times a game.

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                      • thedude213
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2007
                        • 119

                        #116
                        Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

                        Originally posted by roadman
                        I wouldn't put vision cone on that list, especially around OS. A lot of people at OS liked that feature.

                        Also, it's too easy to criticize something that hasn't been tried out , yet, isn't it?

                        If you "think" you won't enjoy gameplan, don't use it. Leave it as an option, though, if others like it.
                        Well if I'm understanding the Game Flow feature correctly, instead of going to a play call menu and selecting a play, the game just chooses a play for you depending on the situation, correct?

                        Now sure I can see this feature being good for people who know nothing about football, like little kids who don't understand how to pick the right play.

                        But people who have been playing football games for a while know which plays to select in situations (3rd and long, 2 and short, etc), so what is the point in having the game do it for you.

                        Just my opinion, but it definitely looks just like another gimmick to hype up this game, instead of focusing their attention on things that matter (AI, gameplay, animations, etc).

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                        • Jukeman
                          Showtime
                          • Aug 2005
                          • 10955

                          #117
                          Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

                          Originally posted by thedude213
                          Well if I'm understanding the Game Flow feature correctly, instead of going to a play call menu and selecting a play, the game just chooses a play for you depending on the situation, correct?

                          Now sure I can see this feature being good for people who know nothing about football, like little kids who don't understand how to pick the right play.

                          But people who have been playing football games for a while know which plays to select in situations (3rd and long, 2 and short, etc), so what is the point in having the game do it for you.

                          Just my opinion, but it definitely looks just like another gimmick to hype up this game, instead of focusing their attention on things that matter (AI, gameplay, animations, etc).
                          It pick plays team actually runs in that situation during real life games..

                          Its not a training wheel...

                          If the Eagles run a screen on 3rd and 1 alot in real life, my brain tells me game flow isnt going to suggest FB dive(a typical play you'd run in that situation)

                          its gonna give you a screen to run....

                          people are reading into things too much...

                          Heh I'd bet if the Eagles threw hail mary's on 3rd and 1 it would suggest a hail mary, not a qb draw...

                          If you wanna play just like your fav football team, use it...If not, dont...

                          no gimmick in my eyes..
                          Last edited by Jukeman; 04-24-2010, 03:31 PM.

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                          • NavigatorD83
                            Banned
                            • May 2009
                            • 206

                            #118
                            Originally posted by ch46647
                            " New Broadcast and AUDIO PRESENTATION"

                            This has me FIRED up! Hopefully it is done correctly and the crowd is AWESOME and the commentary is full of excitement and energy. Its about time they bring some life into this game! I believe the new announcer will be Gus Johnson. Cant get much better then him IMO.

                            Since they are putting "audio" as one of the back of the box features I have to assume they put a major emphasis on it this year. This will make a world of difference in the immersion factor.
                            Seriously. When the crowd doesnt react to a big play its a huge let down. For too long its always felt like when you play these games you scratch your head and wonder Do the people who make these games even watch football?

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                            • denverbro89
                              Rookie
                              • Jan 2010
                              • 96

                              #119
                              does this mean RFA and UFA, tendering players, more than 10 draft picks , smarter franchise AI and CPU trades?

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                              • roadman
                                *ll St*r
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 26339

                                #120
                                Re: Madden NFL 11 to Redefine Football with Simpler, Quicker and Deeper Experience

                                Originally posted by thedude213
                                Well if I'm understanding the Game Flow feature correctly, instead of going to a play call menu and selecting a play, the game just chooses a play for you depending on the situation, correct?

                                Now sure I can see this feature being good for people who know nothing about football, like little kids who don't understand how to pick the right play.

                                But people who have been playing football games for a while know which plays to select in situations (3rd and long, 2 and short, etc), so what is the point in having the game do it for you.

                                Just my opinion, but it definitely looks just like another gimmick to hype up this game, instead of focusing their attention on things that matter (AI, gameplay, animations, etc).
                                I see what you are saying, but I saw in the Brees interview that the Madden team has studied the tendencies of each team on what they call on certain down and distances. Brees said it doesn't get any more real than that.


                                All boils down to preference. It's an option, don't like, don't use it.

                                Also, veterans of football and Madden who attended CD, also like this feature, so, I don't see where you can speculate that only little kiddies would like this feature.

                                A bit premature if you ask me.

                                Edit-- Thank you, Jukman. Very simple explanation, I agree with everything you said.
                                Last edited by roadman; 04-24-2010, 03:43 PM.

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