Backbreaker Video: TV Commercial Spot

[yardz23]

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yeah I was worried about this as well.....but if you look at the Gameplay with the Green Team...that is a recent build, compared to the other one.... So I'm wondering if it has to do with Arcade mode....or it might just an option to turn off or on.

I just wish they give us an option to have the Camera shake alittle after big hits, like the old clips of the game.

Bingo. All the visual assists that you may have seen; glowing balls (lol), glowing player outlines, play art on the field, are all "Arcade mode". And its not just a on or off switch, you can choose which assists you want on or not. Or play pro mode with no assists at all.

[Blzer]

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I just wish they give us an option to have the Camera shake alittle after big hits, like the old clips of the game.

Same, I miss that too. I wonder if maybe that looks better as a sequence of hits or if it really would look good when playing.

[Phixius]

Backbreaker look so fluid. Loved that hit and the dive at the ending. Before the head slap, take a look at the tackle from the guy trying to spin, just look natural.

The ball carrier doesn't even make the turn halfway. He's met and the momentum of the defender just takes him back and the guy who missed the first tackle slowed the ball carrier down when his leg locked up with his for a second.

[PGaither84]

My big questions are regarding line play. Madden 10 and prior don't have good line play, but that isn't the point. If BB has true NFL line play and interactions with Natural motion, that will be the big turning point. i think that if BB can recreate a true on-the-filed pro-football level of game play, Ian and EA will take notice. Ian said on OS last year that Natural motion looks nice, and he wished the BB team the best of luck, but he wants to see it in action before even thinking about using euphoria in Madden.

[spankdatazz22]

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My big questions are regarding line play. Madden 10 and prior don't have good line play, but that isn't the point. If BB has true NFL line play and interactions with Natural motion, that will be the big turning point. i think that if BB can recreate a true on-the-filed pro-football level of game play, Ian and EA will take notice.

Really don't see why it matters if "Ian takes notice". Let me get this straight: Madden 10 and prior Maddens don't have good line play, but that isn't the point"...? That's exactly the point. Team Tiburon with every advantage in the world with exclusivity, a huge development team, and years of development time - can't get lineplay straight but that's an expectation from a smaller development team, without the licenses to lean on, and with no prior football game experience? That just goes to show how ridiculously low expectations are when it comes to the Tiburon football games. Another developer is basically expected to do with one hand tied behind it's back (because of exclusivity and dev time) what Tiburon hasn't been able to do with every advantage in the world. Sad.

That said, I am getting a little more anxious to get my hands on Backbreaker and see the behavior-based technology behind the game.

[Methlab]

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Ian is super cool and I literally live right next to his office, but who cares what EA thinks? They are obviously still on a cloud of disillusion and we already know from community day that Madden is not going to change much.

[LeonM]

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Just for the record. Backbreaker did use motion captures in their game for the running etc. Euphoria takes hold when it comes to human behavior and human ability. I think that Euphoria will shape the AI in this game. Angles that players take to make and avoid contact. It's not just about the tackles.

[boom.h]

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Really don't see why it matters if "Ian takes notice". Let me get this straight: Madden 10 and prior Maddens don't have good line play, but that isn't the point"...? That's exactly the point. Team Tiburon with every advantage in the world with exclusivity, a huge development team, and years of development time - can't get lineplay straight but that's an expectation from a smaller development team, without the licenses to lean on, and with no prior football game experience? That just goes to show how ridiculously low expectations are when it comes to the Tiburon football games. Another developer is basically expected to do with one hand tied behind it's back (because of exclusivity and dev time) what Tiburon hasn't been able to do with every advantage in the world. Sad.

That said, I am getting a little more anxious to get my hands on Backbreaker and see the behavior-based technology behind the game.

Why do you insist on embarrassing forum members with logic and intelligence as sharp as this post? Meanie. :wink:

[yardz23]

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Really don't see why it matters if "Ian takes notice". Let me get this straight: Madden 10 and prior Maddens don't have good line play, but that isn't the point"...? That's exactly the point. Team Tiburon with every advantage in the world with exclusivity, a huge development team, and years of development time - can't get lineplay straight but that's an expectation from a smaller development team, without the licenses to lean on, and with no prior football game experience? That just goes to show how ridiculously low expectations are when it comes to the Tiburon football games. Another developer is basically expected to do with one hand tied behind it's back (because of exclusivity and dev time) what Tiburon hasn't been able to do with every advantage in the world. Sad.

That said, I am getting a little more anxious to get my hands on Backbreaker and see the behavior-based technology behind the game.

Great, great post.

[shavane]

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Afrikan - you can take your choice from either one of your gifs and they both made this game a must have for me. Other clips that locked BB in for me are the interception in the endzone, and the diving catch one. In particular the gif where the runner is wearing green made it impossible for me not to get this game. There is so many different things going on in that one play than I've ever seen in a full game of Madden. Its so much more robust and life like which is something that everyone should be looking forward to.

[Phixius]

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Really don't see why it matters if "Ian takes notice". Let me get this straight: Madden 10 and prior Maddens don't have good line play, but that isn't the point"...? That's exactly the point. Team Tiburon with every advantage in the world with exclusivity, a huge development team, and years of development time - can't get lineplay straight but that's an expectation from a smaller development team, without the licenses to lean on, and with no prior football game experience? That just goes to show how ridiculously low expectations are when it comes to the Tiburon football games. Another developer is basically expected to do with one hand tied behind it's back (because of exclusivity and dev time) what Tiburon hasn't been able to do with every advantage in the world. Sad.

That said, I am getting a little more anxious to get my hands on Backbreaker and see the behavior-based technology behind the game.

., Yeah, I agree the expectations are low for Tiburon games because most people are just satisfied that it's better than the previous game. EA could easily do the same if they actually made gameplay a priority instead of adding new features to get people excited.

Gameflow is a nice feature but what good is it when the players still don't follow their assignments in the game? I still see gameplay video where defenders won't even join in with the tackle or serve an impact. They just slide off. It's no big deal until one of those tackles is broken and that running back is taking off for a TD.


The "they're getting better" and "it's better than last year" saying. It's really getting old. People need to stop comparing Madden from it's previous version and compare it to the game of football.

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Really don't see why it matters if "Ian takes notice". Let me get this straight: Madden 10 and prior Maddens don't have good line play, but that isn't the point"...? That's exactly the point. Team Tiburon with every advantage in the world with exclusivity, a huge development team, and years of development time - can't get lineplay straight but that's an expectation from a smaller development team, without the licenses to lean on, and with no prior football game experience? That just goes to show how ridiculously low expectations are when it comes to the Tiburon football games. Another developer is basically expected to do with one hand tied behind it's back (because of exclusivity and dev time) what Tiburon hasn't been able to do with every advantage in the world. Sad.

That said, I am getting a little more anxious to get my hands on Backbreaker and see the behavior-based technology behind the game.

Agreed to the umpth degree on the low expectations and satisfied attitude of the just enough syndrome that has taken over EA and trickled down to the fans.

Its very sad

[AndyP]

For what is the first release, I am very optimistic about this game. I don't expect perfection, there isn't a first version of any game that has been perfect.

[mestevo]

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For what is the first release, I am very optimistic about this game. I don't expect perfection, there isn't a first version of any game that has been perfect.

Miss too much or the wrong things though, and it becomes an only effort, not a 1st effort.

[radatdude2]

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Miss too much or the wrong things though, and it becomes an only effort, not a 1st effort.

many titles have produced 4th and 5th efforts which are still failures in terms of game play