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  • moylan1234
    MVP
    • Jul 2004
    • 3946

    #61
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

    Originally posted by JerseySuave4
    once again, quit the bitching about the replays not being 100% what they are on tv. Its ridiculous and petty. If ESPN and these tv stations could get replays at those angles they would love to but they can't because they only have X amount of camera people stationed at certain spots and safety wise they can't be at certain angles to get those shots.

    Look at the technology ESPN loves to show off on their shows. If they could get replays like that on a consistant basis for every game you dont think they would love to? Of course they would.
    I've made this point over and over. No they wouldn't. They have ability to get some of this stuff such as the ultra close up shots on replays, but they don't air them because it makes no sense to the audience.

    You keep talking about things being 100% real. Its a video game, if you want something 100% real then get off your ***, go outside, strap on some pads, and play real football. Thats the only way you're going to get 100% real football.
    you guys are just not understanding this very well. EA is the one that made the claim of "authentic ESPN presentation" people are only pointing out that some of these replays do not fit that bill. Nobody is "bitching or moaning" they're only giving their opinions on the info that's released which is exactly what this board is for so if you don't like don't come here.

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    • IN13NSE
      Rookie
      • Feb 2007
      • 212

      #62
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

      Originally posted by moylan55
      I've made this point over and over. No they wouldn't. They have ability to get some of this stuff such as the ultra close up shots on replays, but they don't air them because it makes no sense to the audience.

      you guys are just not understanding this very well. EA is the one that made the claim of "authentic ESPN presentation" people are only pointing out that some of these replays do not fit that bill. Nobody is "bitching or moaning" they're only giving their opinions on the info that's released which is exactly what this board is for so if you don't like don't come here.
      I hope you don't mean me, because all I wanted was a reason for why you want them... and I'm guessing that is because EA promised you guys "authentic ESPN presentation".

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      • JerseySuave4
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 5152

        #63
        Originally posted by moylan55
        I've made this point over and over. No they wouldn't. They have ability to get some of this stuff such as the ultra close up shots on replays, but they don't air them because it makes no sense to the audience.

        you guys are just not understanding this very well. EA is the one that made the claim of "authentic ESPN presentation" people are only pointing out that some of these replays do not fit that bill. Nobody is "bitching or moaning" they're only giving their opinions on the info that's released which is exactly what this board is for so if you don't like don't come here.
        i love how you claim they have the ability to have those replays without any proof to support that statement. They dont have the ability to do some of the things they do with the replays in the game because they dont have camera guys at every single position to catch those things.

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        • str8artist
          MVP
          • Sep 2009
          • 1065

          #64
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

          Originally posted by JerseySuave4
          once again, quit the bitching about the replays not being 100% what they are on tv. Its ridiculous and petty. If ESPN and these tv stations could get replays at those angles they would love to but they can't because they only have X amount of camera people stationed at certain spots and safety wise they can't be at certain angles to get those shots.

          Look at the technology ESPN loves to show off on their shows. If they could get replays like that on a consistant basis for every game you dont think they would love to? Of course they would. Remember that 360 degree camera that would spin all the way around? I guess people will always find something the bitch and moan about because the fact that you're deciding to complain about replays is laughable. Its really only 2 people that keep complaining about it while everyone else basically could care less because its something so minor.

          You keep talking about things being 100% real. Its a video game, if you want something 100% real then get off your ***, go outside, strap on some pads, and play real football. Thats the only way you're going to get 100% real football.

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          • moylan1234
            MVP
            • Jul 2004
            • 3946

            #65
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

            Originally posted by JerseySuave4
            i love how you claim they have the ability to have those replays without any proof to support that statement. They dont have the ability to do some of the things they do with the replays in the game because they dont have camera guys at every single position to catch those things.
            10 years working in sports television including a stint with ESPN is my proof. You don't need to have camera guys at every single postion when you own sophiscated equipment. With the cameras they have they could highlight Tim Tebow's pimples from the worst seat in the house if they wanted.

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            • Bigdmo9999
              Banned
              • Jan 2008
              • 5318

              #66
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

              You guys gotta be kidding me. This doesn't concern you AT ALL. If you don't care about this then DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. I couldn't give a **** what you think is more important. The issue in my mind at the moment is the unrealstic "authentic" ESPN broadcast that I'M ALWAYS GOING TO SEE WHEN I PLAY THE GAME.

              Also, that get off my *** comment, you gotta be joking. The reason I play games because I lack the talent to be a player at the college level. ****, if I could play at Autzen Stadium in real life maybe I would. But I can't, that is why I use a video game to get my thrills, and that is why I want it REAL, as if I was ACTUALLY THERE.

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              • JerseySuave4
                Banned
                • Mar 2006
                • 5152

                #67
                hahaha you guys are amazing. Ok fine you win the replays suck.

                The thing that really sucks is that its going to bother you over and over and over and over and over again as you play the game while 99.9% of the other consumers won't even think twice or care about it.

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                • 23
                  yellow
                  • Sep 2002
                  • 66469

                  #68
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

                  Im going to hand out infractions if you guys dont stay on topic and stay off of eachother.

                  No more warnings because after this, I dont want to see any PMs whining about how its not fair

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                  • Rivals
                    Pro
                    • Apr 2008
                    • 512

                    #69
                    Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

                    If realism isn't the goal, then why even bother modeling football players in the game at all? Why not just use Super Mario characters. They could score touchdowns, or use Mortal Combat finishing moves to score extra points. Oh, that's right. Because if it's in the game, IT'S IN THE GAME. Thus, the discussion is driven by comparing the video game with what's in real live football games.

                    Besides, in this context, going outside and playing football in your backyard is about as real as sitting on the couch playing football with your Wii Nunchuk controller in hand. Suuuure. Uncle Rico replays from the camcorder are just like Saturday night SEC football replays. Minus 90,000 people, goal posts, hash marks, lights, athletes...

                    And I can only speak for myself, but I don't think anyone is telling EA to sacrifice gameplay for replay angles. There are plenty of threads discussing gameplay. This is simply one thread discussing a different facet of the game. Gameplay, presentation, graphics, functionality etc. are all important. I'm not a physicist, so my opinion is limited when it comes to gameplay issues. However, I do cover college football for a living, so the visual inconsistencies of the game stand out like a sore thumb to me. Playing Uncle Rico out back doesn't exercise those demons.
                    Last edited by Rivals; 04-27-2010, 01:32 AM. Reason: Cause grammar matters

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                    • Bigdmo9999
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 5318

                      #70
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

                      Originally posted by Rivals
                      If realism isn't the goal, then why even bother modeling football players in the game at all? Why not just use Super Mario characters. They could score touchdowns, or use Mortal Combat finishing moves to score extra points. Oh, that's right. Because if it's in the game, IT'S IN THE GAME. Thus, the discussion is driven by comparing the video game with what's in real live football games.

                      Besides, in this context, going outside and playing football in your backyard is about as real as sitting on the couch playing football with your Wii Nunchuk controller in hand. Suuuure. Uncle Rico replays from the camcorder are just like Saturday night SEC football replays. Minus 90,000 people, goal posts, hash marks, lights, athletes...

                      And I can only speak for myself, but I don't think anyone is telling EA to sacrifice gameplay for replay angles. There are plenty of threads discussing gameplay. This is simply one thread discussing a different facet of the game. Gameplay, presentation, graphics, functionality etc. are all important. I'm not a physicist, so my opinion is limited when it comes to gameplay issues. However, I do cover college football for a living, so the visual inconsistencies of the game stand out like a sore thumb to me. Playing Uncle Rico out back doesn't exercise those demons.
                      Thank you.

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                      • seawolves9
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 346

                        #71
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

                        This was a thread about locomotion though... Not presentation.

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                        • Rivals
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2008
                          • 512

                          #72
                          Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

                          The presentation video glosses over presentation and talks more about lighting. The video in this thread speaks specifically about the new replays.

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                          • mtoo22
                            Hail West Virginia
                            • Dec 2005
                            • 1077

                            #73
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

                            They may mention the replay, but this is about locomotion, not presentation. It does look as if we will finally be able to find NEW problems with gameplay, instead of the same old ones though. This is 100% a relief for me.

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                            • ODogg
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 37953

                              #74
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

                              lol, never stated more true, instead of saying "it looks like they may have fixed a lot of the problems with the gameplay" you say "it looks as if we will finally be able to find NEW problems with gameplay"

                              I don't know if you intended it that way or not but it's so hilarious how that really is how folks think in these forums!!
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                              • longshanks
                                Banned
                                • Apr 2008
                                • 630

                                #75
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Video: New Locomotion in Action

                                Originally posted by Bigdmo9999
                                You guys gotta be kidding me. This doesn't concern you AT ALL. If you don't care about this then DON'T TALK ABOUT IT. I couldn't give a **** what you think is more important. The issue in my mind at the moment is the unrealstic "authentic" ESPN broadcast that I'M ALWAYS GOING TO SEE WHEN I PLAY THE GAME.

                                Also, that get off my *** comment, you gotta be joking. The reason I play games because I lack the talent to be a player at the college level. ****, if I could play at Autzen Stadium in real life maybe I would. But I can't, that is why I use a video game to get my thrills, and that is why I want it REAL, as if I was ACTUALLY THERE.
                                this brings us to the main point, gameplay, if you want it to be realistic and thrilling like on game days you've got to rule out every single bit of presentation there is and just focus on playing on the field, sure, you might get interviewed or something before or after the game also

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