Madden NFL 11 Video: Developer Series - Gameflow. Gameplanning. Locomotion.

[PantherBeast_OS]

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All I can say from looking at the first part of this video. It seemed that they was playing this on rookie. Because Chad Henne was running out side the pocket with ease. The D wasn't even getting near him. I also saw that with a few other QBs in this video to. So that make me think this was played on rookie are pro level. But other then that the gameplay look solid so far. I'm hoping they fixed the pass rush for human user D for this year. In madden 10 the AI on my D would not even get close to the QB unless I was controlling to guy. Hopefully it has been improved.

[NYyankz225]

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Which game are you referring to? M11 or M10? M10 is most definitely not fluid. I don't think M11 will be either. If you watch the vid that had the Drew Brees warm up chant on it, you can see it's not rendering properly. It looks just like M10 did. For the gameplay videos of M11, I don't know what they are running them on. M09 seems to be the version they started having major rendering problems.

I'm referring to M11. What do you mean you don't know what they're running them on? They're on dev kits. Sure they have more RAM but that's for debugging, the environment is identical to what they'll be running on when we play it.

Perhaps last year they ran into optimization issues last year which is why you claim the earlier game footage looked more fluid. I don't know. Im just basing it off of the footage I see. Considering its on Youtube which is ****y for playback, I'm impressed.

[PantherBeast_OS]

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With all of these videos and everything, it seems like the game is already done..what exactly are they waiting on now? rookies and ratings or what?

Bro the game is far from done. It is still in alpha build. They are still working on alot of stuff to make sure it is working correctly before it goes gold in late July. They are still tweaking and tuning gameplay and working on franchise mode and presention and so on. Just because the video of gameplay looks good doesn't me it is ready. It is far from ready. Still a lot of testing to be done to make sure everything goes right. If it doesn't then fans will be here in late August complaining like every year.

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Weird

[Valdarez]

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I'm referring to M11. What do you mean you don't know what they're running them on? They're on dev kits. Sure they have more RAM but that's for debugging, the environment is identical to what they'll be running on when we play it.

Perhaps last year they ran into optimization issues last year which is why you claim the final game looked less fluid. I don't know. Im just basing it off of the footage I see. Considering its on Youtube which is ****y for playback, I'm impressed.

Pop in Madden 07, and then Madden 09 or 10 and you should be able to see what I'm talking about. Or put in APF2K8 and see how fluid the animations are rendered. If those aren't a possibility, then go to a replay in Madden 10 and play it very slow and you'll see how fluid the animations are compared to the game. Seems the rendering problems are easier for 2K gamers to pick out as they are more used to the fluid rendering of the animations.

[joel_g]

Liked the overall vid and the gameplan looks very interesting.

@ 5:13=EPIC FAIL.

Running backs still cannot put there arm out on a line man's back. Instead they get F'n STUCK running in place. I thought they would have added this by now.

Still to this day one of my top pet peeves in the running game. Maybe It's because, It happens to me often or just that that looks horrible and wouldn't happen with a simple animation. I don't know. I'm disappointed.

GOD!!

Damn, calm down. It is not in there YET, but it HAS been confirmed that it will be in the game. So just chill...

[Valdarez]

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Damn, calm down. It is not in there YET, but it HAS been confirmed that it will be in the game. So just chill...

Really. Where?

[johnnyg713]

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Liked the overall vid and the gameplan looks very interesting.

@ 5:13=EPIC FAIL.

Running backs still cannot put there arm out on a line man's back. Instead they get F'n STUCK running in place. I thought they would have added this by now.

Still to this day one of my top pet peeves in the running game. Maybe It's because, It happens to me often or just that that looks horrible and wouldn't happen with a simple animation. I don't know. I'm disappointed.

GOD!!

Just made this thread today... http://www.operationsports.com/forum...orks-year.html

you should take a look

Edit: Val take a look too

[J0HN_10]

Holy...

Some of those moves the RBs were making were ridiculous. Especially the Broncos RB (assuming it was Moreno, didnt look close). Guy ducked in and out and around defenders.

Super impressed with locomotion

it was Arrington

[SouthernBrick]

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Damn, calm down. It is not in there YET, but it HAS been confirmed that it will be in the game. So just chill...

Link?

[Only1LT]

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Pop in Madden 07, and then Madden 09 or 10 and you should be able to see what I'm talking about. Or put in APF2K8 and see how fluid the animations are rendered. If those aren't a possibility, then go to a replay in Madden 10 and play it very slow and you'll see how fluid the animations are compared to the game. Seems the rendering problems are easier for 2K gamers to pick out as they are more used to the fluid rendering of the animations.

I remember how smooth the animations were in Madden 07. They even had the signature running styles in it. I liked the player models better for that version too.

People call me crazy all the time, but Madden 07 on the PS3 (the PS3 version came out later than the 360 version and it had some extra features like gang tackling that the 360 version didn't so that's why I am saying the PS3 version specifically) was probably my favorite Madden of all time. It is also the only Madden to date, besides Madden 99, where you could actually throw passes over a defenders head like you should. If you had a couple steps on a defender in those 2 games and you were running a fly pattern, there was very little chance that the defender was going to leap into the air and swat the ball away from behind. That is how it SHOULD be.

Yes you could throw bombs too easily in that game, but that was because the defensive AI was ********, and also because you threw a perfect pass on just about every throw. If they would make you throw the ball out of bounds or over and under throw the receiver much more on deep passes, and improve the AI, then you wouldn't need your DB to be able to leap that high and knock down passes while trailing an open receiver, which NEVER happens in real life, unless the ball is badly under thrown.

[J0HN_10]

Damn, calm down. It is not in there YET, but it HAS been confirmed that it will be in the game. So just chill...

yeah let me get that link too...

[Only1LT]

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Damn, calm down. It is not in there YET, but it HAS been confirmed that it will be in the game. So just chill...

Really. Where?

Link?

I don't have a link either, but I definitely do remember them saying that there is an animation where the runner puts his hand on the O-Lineman's back.

Now just because they said it doesn't mean that it will definitely be in the game, or that it will trigger properly, but he is 100% right when he says that one of the developers said that it was in the game. Now that I think about it, it might have been said in the locomotion live chat.

Too lazy to look, but they did say it.

[NYyankz225]

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Pop in Madden 07, and then Madden 09 or 10 and you should be able to see what I'm talking about. Or put in APF2K8 and see how fluid the animations are rendered. If those aren't a possibility, then go to a replay in Madden 10 and play it very slow and you'll see how fluid the animations are compared to the game. Seems the rendering problems are easier for 2K gamers to pick out as they are more used to the fluid rendering of the animations.

You make it like 2k gamers are part of an elite club. I've played 2k games before and I've played a variety of other more recent higher budget games. I don't need to be a "2k gamer" to determine whether or not I think it's fluid or not. Especially when MLB2k10 and most recent 2k games are a jittery mess.

Judge the game on its merits don't bring irrelevent issues into it.

I'm talking about 11. Not 10. I see the issues with 10.

[johnnyg713]

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I don't have a link either, but I definitely do remember them saying that there is an animation where the runner puts his hand on the O-Lineman's back.

Now just because they said it doesn't mean that it will definitely be in the game, or that it will trigger properly, but he is 100% right when he says that one of the developers said that it was in the game. Now that I think about it, it might have been said in the locomotion live chat.

Too lazy to look, but they did say it.

http://maddennfl.easports.com/livechat.action