espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

[2k5settings]

now i know that 2k5 is better overall but the small problems are not as big in 2k4 as in 2k5 ... like for example the corners dont flip out on the field and do a circle and then turn around and pick off or tip the ball behind hm ... the completion % is better in 2k4 also ....

[Matt23134]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I actually just bought 2K3 because a poster on here said it had practically no glitches. I've only played a few exhibition games with it, but so far I like it better than 2k5. It's not perfect, but I like the animations (especially the running animations) soo much more than 2K5. Even on fast 2K5 just feels sluggish to me; the players just seem to lumber around. 2K3 feels a lot more like APF 2K8 in this aspect, to me at least. The animations are smooth even on normal setting.

There are problems though. Sacking the CPU has been impossible so far. And sometimes passes just seem to float for a little bit. I've yet to see the CPU attempt a pass for more than 10 or 15 yards. However, I've yet to notice the DB circle animation, so I'm very happy about that.

Perhaps my favorite thing about 2K3 so far is the fact that the CPU scores on me by establishing consistent drives. I got so sick of 2 and 3 play drives by the CPU in 2K5. A guy would have 75 yards on 2 catches. In 2K3, I'm getting consistent 7 and 8 play drives. That's pretty much the best I've gotten in a football video game, except for maybe Madden 2005.
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Sorry for the long post. I don't remember playing 2k4. How are you liking it? Will the CPU actually work the ball down the field or is it a spectacle of 60 and 70 yard touchdown plays? Does it feel less sluggish than 2k5?

[Mbalmer]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I have been playing 2k3 for the last couple of nights and I like it as well. Like original poster said, it is not better then 2k5, but somethings are done better. I like that the screen plays and passing in general to the running backs are better. Getting to the cpu qb is very, very hard. I have been playing the ps2 version, so the graphics aren't on par to 2k5 on the xbox1.
I went ahead and ordered a new copy of 2k4 for the xbox off ebay because I never purchased it that year. I think I must have been busy with NCAA at the time. I should have that in a couple of days and am looking forward to playing it.

[Matt23134]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I have been playing 2k3 for the last couple of nights and I like it as well. Like original poster said, it is not better then 2k5, but somethings are done better. I like that the screen plays and passing in general to the running backs are better. Getting to the cpu qb is very, very hard. I have been playing the ps2 version, so the graphics aren't on par to 2k5 on the xbox1.
I went ahead and ordered a new copy of 2k4 for the xbox off ebay because I never purchased it that year. I think I must have been busy with NCAA at the time. I should have that in a couple of days and am looking forward to playing it.

Let us know how you like it.

[Mbalmer]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I will give an update on this post once I mess around with it. I hope it comes in the mail on saturday so when I get back home sunday night from St. Louis I can play it.

[Segagendude]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I have been playing 2k3 for the last couple of nights and I like it as well. Like original poster said, it is not better then 2k5, but somethings are done better. I like that the screen plays and passing in general to the running backs are better. Getting to the cpu qb is very, very hard. I have been playing the ps2 version, so the graphics aren't on par to 2k5 on the xbox1.
I went ahead and ordered a new copy of 2k4 for the xbox off ebay because I never purchased it that year. I think I must have been busy with NCAA at the time. I should have that in a couple of days and am looking forward to playing it.

I have all 3 for PS2. 2K4 (Or ESPN Football, as it was called) upgraded the playcalling to what 2k5 had. Also, 2k4 introduced the Crib, as well as the first person view from under the helmet. That was my fave view as a kickoff/punt return guy(Try this view at night in rain!!!)

Also, it began using ESPN presentation, although it's only Berman's voice and not the "virtual" Berman in 2k5. Clearly, you can see the progression Virtual Concepts was making until the whole NFL /EA exclusive license thingy.........

You can't go wrong with any of em, although 2k5 is the only one where updated rosters are available, to my knowledge.

[Matt23134]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I have all 3 for PS2. 2K4 (Or ESPN Football, as it was called) upgraded the playcalling to what 2k5 had. Also, 2k4 introduced the Crib, as well as the first person view from under the helmet. That was my fave view as a kickoff/punt return guy(Try this view at night in rain!!!)

Also, it began using ESPN presentation, although it's only Berman's voice and not the "virtual" Berman in 2k5. Clearly, you can see the progression Virtual Concepts was making until the whole NFL /EA exclusive license thingy.........

You can't go wrong with any of em, although 2k5 is the only one where updated rosters are available, to my knowledge.

Do you agree that 2K5 feels sluggish? This may be because it is trying to simulate momentum and locomotion, but it just feels sluggish to me. Does 2k4 feel like that?

[TheWatcher]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

With 2K5, try playing on fast speed.

I liked the starting lineups being announced in 2K3. It was very thorough. They stopped doing it after that season, but I'd love to see that in Football games again.

[Segagendude]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

Do you agree that 2K5 feels sluggish? This may be because it is trying to simulate momentum and locomotion, but it just feels sluggish to me. Does 2k4 feel like that?

Yeah, play it on fast speed like The Watcher said.

2k4 feels ok, not too fast, not too slow.

[Matt23134]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

Yea even on fast speed. 2K5 is great. Don't get me wrong. It's just the sluggish feel and the CPU scoring 50 and 60 yard TD's, instead of establishing drives, tired me of it.

[JHarrison35]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I don't have a problem with CPU having short drives at all... I have rosters and sliders that make the game better, but this issue you keep bringing up is non-existent to me.

[dwevans]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I just dug out my copy espn nfl football. My copy seems to be broken, I randomly cant snap the ball sometimes and cant get past the 1st quarter at others.

However, from the little i have played I prefer what I see in 2k4 over 2k5 and i've ordered a new copy to play more. It doesn't have any standout glitches like 2k5 does and I would love to find some way of editing it to bring it up to date.

Any help flying finn?!!

[DJDReW3102]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

i love both games but i'd say i have a soft spot for 2k4, i played that game so much, the disc wore down!

[Matt23134]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I don't have a problem with CPU having short drives at all... I have rosters and sliders that make the game better, but this issue you keep bringing up is non-existent to me.

I guess you're a much better player than me, or at the least, our playing styles are just different. The CPU has trouble scoring against me unless they break big plays.

You mention sliders and rosters and that's the thing. I hate having to mess around with different variables in order to be able to get the effect I desire. 2K3 is by no means perfect; but I feel like it is a more well rounded game without any editing.

[2k5settings]

Re: espn nfl 2k4 or espn nfl 2k5

I guess you're a much better player than me, or at the least, our playing styles are just different. The CPU has trouble scoring against me unless they break big plays.

You mention sliders and rosters and that's the thing. I hate having to mess around with different variables in order to be able to get the effect I desire. 2K3 is by no means perfect; but I feel like it is a more well rounded game without any editing.

yea i was playing it yesterday and i noticed that the running of the players are the best running animations are the best i had ever seen and but overall i dont think that i would play 2k3 over 2k5 due to some glitches