NCAA Football 11 Blog: Quarterback

[blackscorpion11]

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Pointless... The blog is titled "quarterback" and we still recieve no info on new throiwing animations which were needed after ncaa 08. I understand that the DE containment is very important. But really this addressed little if anything about the styles and or how they affect gameplay. It says "in college football there are duel threat QBs and pocket passers". Its like me saying that "today is Friday and tomarrow will be Saturday". We all know that college football has different types of QBs. But how will you implement that into the game? (Most) duel threat Qbs have long drawn out winding motions. ie Mike Vick, Pat White, Juice Williams, Tyrod Taylor, Tim Tebow (Pre Draft) most pocket passers tend to have nice clean quick releases, Bradford, McCoy (kinda) Lefevour. Why not implement this into the game. A scrambler is going to be quick and deadly on the run but they also need more time to throw and get there feet set. Pocket guy is a snail on the run but is able to get the ball off and all around the field based on arm strenght and ohter attributes. Dont get me wrong I am stoked for this game but throwing different throwing motions are something that I have wanted ever since I played MVP 04 and created my own pitcher. Its a killer for me to see the ugly preasent throwing motions that are in 2010. Locomotion is going to be awesome hopefully. But kicking the ball out to my shifty RB is going to be overshaddowed by the 1000 mile an hour dart motion of the QB.

Does anyone agree?


I know I have brought up this topic before. But is it a game killer for you guys like it is me? Like when they show a replay and the ball warps out of the hand of the QB and does not even spin?

I agree, The same can be said of O-Lineman, how can u tell the difference between a pass blocking and run blocking lineman, they all play the same.

[Skers1989]

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Thank you black scorpion. Sorry some of the grammer was incorrect i was drinking when i typed that. Well i am still drinking....

[rhombic21]

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yes, but these are audibles you can call preplay

Audibles which ALREADY exist. You can already hot route DEs to containment right now.

[JerseySuave4]

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the armed forces bowl is on right now and man does it get me excited for football season... cannot wait

[coogrfan]

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the armed forces bowl is on right now and man does it get me excited for football season... cannot wait

Ugh...don't remind me.

[jmik58]

@JerseySuave4

I totally agree about your point on page three about drilling technique and repetition.

My point was that foot positioning isn't as important, in my opinion, for dbacks in regard to their ability to be in position, etc. However, I do coach foot positioning and specific foot up when playing a tight man coverage, etc.

Our coaching staff has gone to several clinics and we've heard the same things you mentioned about doing the little things until they become second nature.

We've been amazed at how "unskilled" in a football sense that many high school kids are. It seems that boys don't go out and play football in the backyard like they used to so you get guys that honestly don't know proper technique for catching a ball. Footwork in cuts is another huge one we have to retrain.

The more muscle memory we can instill, the more time we can spend on teaching and coaching concepts to give them an edge. Unfortunately, sometimes we're stuck with a group of kids that have to taught fundamentals they should have gotten when they were much younger.

It makes our job as coaches tougher, but definitely more rewarding when the hard work pays off.

[JerseySuave4]

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@JerseySuave4

I totally agree about your point on page three about drilling technique and repetition.

My point was that foot positioning isn't as important, in my opinion, for dbacks in regard to their ability to be in position, etc. However, I do coach foot positioning and specific foot up when playing a tight man coverage, etc.

Our coaching staff has gone to several clinics and we've heard the same things you mentioned about doing the little things until they become second nature.

We've been amazed at how "unskilled" in a football sense that many high school kids are. It seems that boys don't go out and play football in the backyard like they used to so you get guys that honestly don't know proper technique for catching a ball. Footwork in cuts is another huge one we have to retrain.

The more muscle memory we can instill, the more time we can spend on teaching and coaching concepts to give them an edge. Unfortunately, sometimes we're stuck with a group of kids that have to taught fundamentals they should have gotten when they were much younger.

It makes our job as coaches tougher, but definitely more rewarding when the hard work pays off.

i agree with you 100%

I remember growing up i was always playing football or basketball outside all the time whenever i could, by myself or with friends but these days there are too many electronics and other things that distract kids and you dont see kids out playing like they used to. Like you said, i'm amazed that there are so many kids playing high school football that dont even understand the game of football because they just play video games and then watch the NFL on Sundays but they dont really "watch" the games they just watch them. What i mean is that they don't really pay attention to what is going on the game, they just look at the outside picture, they aren't understanding why a player does one thing or why a coach runs that play or the strategy and technique behind everything, they're more into the result of the play and the cool celebrations or things the players do.

And i dont even coach at public school, i coach at a parochial school where kids come from all different areas so we get the top talent from the surrounding areas and just about all of the kids want to be there instead of being forced there by mommy and daddy and we're a successful school but we do have to do a lot of teaching when these kids first get there to really help them understand football and everything involved with it. We got good kids that listen, i cant imagine some of the public schools in Jersey. I coached with a guy who is at a public school now (wont say which) where they have to worry more about the kids being academically eligable, not getting arrested, and being a pain in the you know what so i'm spoiled in the sense that those 3 things are never too much of a problem where i am because the school and football program does a good job making sure the kids keep their grades up, they arent trouble makers so getting arrested isnt an issue and if they are a big enough pain there is a kid right behind them that is just as talented that we'll just put in instead.

[adembroski]

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I was hoping to hear that pass velocities would be appreciably lower than in Madden for all but the elite arms. That's one of the major differences in the college game, and one of the reasons NCAA has been so wide-open offensively over the years is the ridiculous pace of the thrown ball. Having a weak armed QB (by college standards) should be a significant handicap.

[J-Unit40]

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I was hoping to hear that pass velocities would be appreciably lower than in Madden for all but the elite arms. That's one of the major differences in the college game, and one of the reasons NCAA has been so wide-open offensively over the years is the ridiculous pace of the thrown ball. Having a weak armed QB (by college standards) should be a significant handicap.

I agree 100%. I like to hear about the dual-threat QBs, throwing out of sacks and such, but the ball throwing speeds in NCAA the last few years have been out of this galaxy.

Part of me thinks that EA did this to reduce the INT fests that existed in NCAA 07 & 08.

There should be a major difference between the throws Ryan Mallet makes and the 3rd string QB from Utah State. A major difference.

[noplace]

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All I wanna know is why is it so hard to get the DE's to rush upfield? Why cant EA implement this? Qbs are still allowed to make there 3,5,7 step drops without being forced to step up in the pocket. They still can get outside the tackle box with ease....Fix the damn LOS play and you have a pretty decent game.

[slick589]

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I was really wishing the QB blog was going to be about QBs and not DEs. They made it easier to hot route to DE contain.....sounds like a DE blog. I was hoping for different throwing animations or something along these lines.

[countryboy]

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The best part of this blog...seeing UofL.

[lilcoo3]

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The two game killers for me both deal with the quarterback. # 1 the quarterback drops back way to fast which is very unrealistic. That's one of the reasons you never get sacks because even if you get a good rush the QB is 2 to 3 steps ahead of you. # 2 the logic of where and who the CPU throws to makes me just cut the game off. For example, it's 3rd and long and of coarse the CPU QB throws to a full back who ran a 2 yard pattern running to the sideline. Even more frustrating is that when you go back and watch the replay the QB had A slant or deep post freakin open for the first down.


Sorry for the mini rant

[moneal2001]

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The two game killers for me both deal with the quarterback. # 1 the quarterback drops back way to fast which is very unrealistic. That's one of the reasons you never get sacks because even if you get a good rush the QB is 2 to 3 steps ahead of you. # 2 the logic of where and who the CPU throws to makes me just cut the game off. For example, it's 3rd and long and of coarse the CPU QB throws to a full back who ran a 2 yard pattern running to the sideline. Even more frustrating is that when you go back and watch the replay the QB had A slant or deep post freakin open for the first down.


Sorry for the mini rant

I think that the bad passing logic can be fixed. Now that they are starting to develop assignments for the AI to go by. I think that they should do this for all positions. QBs should have reads. They are on the right track. It takes a lot of work to program and tune this stuff.

[Skers1989]

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I was really wishing the QB blog was going to be about QBs and not DEs. They made it easier to hot route to DE contain.....sounds like a DE blog. I was hoping for different throwing animations or something along these lines.

Thats the very first thing that went through my mind after reading the blog. When I saw the title "Quarterback" I thought i was going to here some good news on the most important aspect of the game besides locomotion (IMO). But DE contain? Thats is a defensive blog for sure.