Madden NFL 11 Video Preview (Xbox Live)

[LReload]

I'm glad that people here continue to question EA and their ability to NOT do things 5 years into a generational cycle that should have been important long ago. They always set themselves up to look foolish when hundreds of thousands of people play the game. Nobody can talk me into believing that it doesn't look like "robots on ice" still. The lack of true weight transferring into momentum is frustrating. EA will say this is the year, until its released, get exposed, then say next year we'll put it in the game, same song, different year. I'm not saying the game is terrible, but I do expect more from the ONLY NFL GAME for the last 6 years. Realism is the name of the game, not gimmicks, chain gangs to referees to multiple man tackles, all have always been "in the game" and should not be promoted as a feature. As the guy said in the video there have been years when Madden wasn't recieved well, except they won't say which year, cuz that would make the whole hype machine that lead up to its release look like total bs. Hmmmm.

[StongBeach]

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I'm glad that people here continue to question EA and their ability to NOT do things 5 years into a generational cycle that should have been important long ago. They always set themselves up to look foolish when hundreds of thousands of people play the game. Nobody can talk me into believing that it doesn't look like "robots on ice" still. The lack of true weight transferring into momentum is frustrating. EA will say this is the year, until its released, get exposed, then say next year we'll put it in the game, same song, different year. I'm not saying the game is terrible, but I do expect more from the ONLY NFL GAME for the last 6 years. Realism is the name of the game, not gimmicks, chain gangs to referees to multiple man tackles, all have always been "in the game" and should not be promoted as a feature. As the guy said in the video there have been years when Madden wasn't recieved well, except they won't say which year, cuz that would make the whole hype machine that lead up to its release look like total bs. Hmmmm.

Lol seriously, you could see all those things ( Refs, Gang tackles, Chain Gang ) since the black and white days of football but yet we just got it in last year in Madden. Not to mention weak gang tackling at that. I gave up on Madden because I don't need a video game to live, a pretty bad one at that. I'll just wait for the EPIC 2k return and boy will it be EPIC! You don't even got to tell 2k what to put in, they always remember the little things such as player specific animations, equipment, advanced fan cheering, etc.. and completely make the most of what they got to produce game with tons of replay value.

[fahrenheit]

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Lmfao so not true Philly Fraizer.

I think Ray Lewis and his copy of Madden 05 has something to say to you

[StongBeach]

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I think Ray Lewis and his copy of Madden 05 has something to say to you

True but if that is what Phil was referring to then thats just completely SAD. That was 6 freakin' years ago so he better not be dwelling in those days anymore. Beside I bought 2K5 that year so in a way it wasn't a success because 2K5 drove 'em to be what they are today.

[SemperVictoria]

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That would make sense, but EA Tiburon has a habit of adding a "new" feature then not expanding or building on it. Will the adaptive AI that was nearly useless last year work better? Will pro tak be tuned to enhance player interaction greatly? From the looks of the vids, nothing has improved.

Yep--and there are actually people that don't get it's all marketing based. This is one area where Madden shines: Marketing. New year another whiz-bang new best feature ever (only to be dropped or ignored the next year).

I don't fault EA. When you've got plenty of sheeple willing to drop coin on the game, why do anything different?

[monkeybutlerz]

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No vid until 1:00 in.
A dominating D player should be feared. This isn't the case yet in Madden.
Not hating as I really liked the Madden 10 updrade and what I've seen so far in Madden 11. Just asking to get more of this in the game.

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Couldn't agree more, I think we all thought that the "stretching" of the ratings was going to accomplish this, but it really didn't. It would be cool to see the superstars as true forces to be reckoned with in the game.

[monkeybutlerz]

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I just spent about the past 2 hours watching Red Dead Redemption trailers and gameplay on YouTube, and I was more entertained than I've ever been playing Madden on this gen. When you look at games like RDR, GTA IV, and UC2, and the sheer depth and attention to detail they pay to those games, you just realize how inadequate Madden in the past 5 years has been. I understand these our different genres and have longer development cycles, but still Madden is leaps and bounds behind them in every single way.

I think Naughty Dog has been quoted as having taken an 18 month development cycle for Uncharted 2. No offense to Madden, but the products are not on the same level and it's not like Uncharted 2 took forever to make. Although, one could argue that they got to use a lot from Uncharted 1 to make the second game, they also would have had to used a fairly large portion of their development cycle on writing, acting, creating brand new environments, etc.

Madden is improving, I just wish we'd see more drastic improvement.

[boydra]

Animations still robotic, not fluid enough.

[Tyrant8RDFL]

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The more videos I see the more I feel I will not be purchasing this game.

The movements just look so off, and Im a animations whore

Now others will enjoy the game and they should. I just hate poor animations. It ruins the gameplay for me.

Well I hope for those that are excited about the game do not get disappointed and enjoy Madden when it releases.

Good Luck Guys!!!!

Also I saw this video earlier that someone put together and really has me hyped. I have a good feeling about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m8pwDhf5w8

[gr18]

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The more videos I see the more I feel I will not be purchasing this game.

The movements just look so off, and Im a animations whore

Now others will enjoy the game and they should. I just hate poor animations. It ruins the gameplay for me.

Well I hope for those that are excited about the game do not get disappointed and enjoy Madden when it releases.


Good Luck Guys!!!!

Also I saw this video earlier that someone put together and really has me hyped. I have a good feeling about this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2m8pwDhf5w8

This.My sentiments exactly.

[LoostheMoos]

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Madden has real issues again, no surprise there really...but what gives me some hope is that Backbreaker is going to show in-depth just how many shortcomings there are in the EA football engine (NCAA OR MADDEN!)...

Watching the videos on BB lately I see a lot of things that I already KNOW I am going to HATE in that game (F-UGLY player models, weird camera effects, that damn noise when a pass is thrown, the heartbeat in your helmet on running plays, etc., etc.); BUT I also see so many things that I always believed would be "next-gen" Madden back in the old days...

- new perspective for playing the game (I feel BB is a little TOO close, but I wanted Madden / NCAA to move down into the action more like ESPN Skycam for a long time...thought it would at least be a viable OPTION by now...)

- ball physics (reacting to arms and helmets, traveling through the air at realistic speeds and heights - ie. throwing OVER the damn LB and in front of the SS in cover-2 without super jumps or insanely low bullet passes)
- realistic shots of players stretching the ball without canned animations
- realistic "over-the-pile" dives (instead of feeble, single animation half-assed attempts)
- missed arm tackles (instead of players being "blocked" and unable to use their arms)
- multiple impact tackles reflected in the player models actually reacting accordingly (no warping or weird motion shifting)
- real sense of hits accounting for weight and momentum and speed at impact (no more guys just bouncing off or falling down because the animation dictates this outcome)
- real double team blocking ON PASS PLAYS...seriously, how can Madden and NCAA possibly have come THIS many iterations without ever addressing this???

- QB mechanics changed, FINALLY (don't know how well BB's passing game will work - again, I have serious doubts, but I LOVE the system of having the QB actually, you know, LOOK at the receiver before throwing it!)

The biggest disappointment, if I could only pick ONE this gen, would have to be the static nature of the passing game in Madden and NCAA. I have been playing this exact style for over a decade now and NOTHING changes.

RBs in the flats? still money....
Throwing off balance streaks to TEs and slot WRs? still money...
Rolling all over the field with fast QBs and still throwing strikes? still money...
Buying ridiculous amounts of time in the "pocket"? still money...
No ineligible man down field penalties? You get the idea...

I remember all too well the days before Madden NFL 06 came out on the XB360...the anticipation of getting a new generation of consoles and a brand new football experience.

I remember thinking back on the progression of football games from previous generations - Atari 2600 to Intellivision to NES Tecmo Bowl to the original Madden on Genesis to Joe Montana Sports Talk Football (wow...you mean he is giving actual play-byplay?!?! lol) to NFL Gameday on PS1 (still remember the lightning and thunder and rain games as being so much more than previous games!) to 2K on Dreamcast (actually saw this one for the first time before Christmas in a display window playing itself - Vikings vs. Cowboys...looked so REAL, so advanced at that time) to Madden on PS2 and XB1 (the height of the series and the last time the game really felt "new") - and thinking, DAMN...this is gonna be good!

I know that BB is not going to meet those expectations either...but maybe, just maybe, it will have enough gameplay in it, enough "fun" and enough people playing online to make it a worthy effort at starting to fulfill the promise of video football's lost generation....

[Exonerated]

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This.My sediments exactly.

My soil, sand, and minerals washed from land into water, usually after rain, too.

[Vikes1]

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starting to fulfill the promise of video football's lost generation....

Never heard it put better.

[swill43507]

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What's up with all that skating in that preview video?....It looks like Hanah Montana on ice,...WTF????????

[Jefferson2Lafell]

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Saw a couple things I liked- The ref in the background signaling the first down, (dont know if it was on 10 but I only saw it on the chain measurements) Chad Henne kept his eyes down field when he scrambled, that was a thing I always hated, they would stare at the sideline as they ran and throw a perfect pass. Finally, I like the WR trying to stay in. Just my observations.