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  • ODogg
    Hall Of Fame
    • Feb 2003
    • 38006

    #136
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

    I'm with you on that RynoAid.. 100%
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    • vanderbiltfan87
      Rookie
      • Jun 2008
      • 206

      #137
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

      You know, EA could make recruiting and dynasty perfect. But if they don't increase roster sizes to 85 then it just doesn't matter. This is my deal breaker. I have to leave out guys lower on the depth chart/some freshmen to get my numbers down to 70. So, by year 2 or 3 of dynasty my team resembles nothing of what it should possibly look like in real life.

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      • mangler
        Rookie
        • Apr 2009
        • 72

        #138
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

        Originally posted by RynoAid
        correct, especially with the comparison recruiting feature...

        for example...

        lets say your #1 on a 5* stud HB everybody wants... You pump in as much time as you can (1 hour) and gain 400-600 points (average call). Well, the other 3 schools behind you are comparison recruiting against your school specifically because your at #1. Let's say each one of them racks up 75 negative points for you while compiling 200-400 positive points for themselves (you take a hit in total positive points you can get when you comparison recruite as oppose to a straight pitch).

        After 3 guys do this.. your 400 points turns into 75 points... while all the other teams are catching up with their 200 point gains and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

        Also, i've seen 1 hour phone straight pitches get as little as 250 points or as much as 900 points.. all depending on several different factors.

        So just because you see that your ahead in points, it doesn't mean your going to stay ahead or that you can even calculate what you need to do to keep your lead... you just have to do the best recruiting you can and hope the chips fall your way.
        teaming up to keep a certain recruit from a certain user will definately add a new level of strategy to ODs.

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        • boritter
          MVP
          • Mar 2006
          • 924

          #139
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

          Originally posted by RynoAid
          In fact it took me a good 2 hours to just figure out the basics of what i could do and how to begin to try to use it effectively.
          So much for recruiting taking less time....

          I like recruiting but the truth is it becomes repetitive after a few seasons of dynasty. People don't mind 10 minutes of repetition but once recruiting takes longer than a game people begin to get frustrated.

          Doesn't the fact that it takes so long contradict the blogs claim that it makes phone calls faster?
          EA: Please add in-game saves.

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          • splff3000
            All Star
            • Jun 2003
            • 2890

            #140
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

            Originally posted by RynoAid
            correct, especially with the comparison recruiting feature...

            for example...

            lets say your #1 on a 5* stud HB everybody wants... You pump in as much time as you can (1 hour) and gain 400-600 points (average call). Well, the other 3 schools behind you are comparison recruiting against your school specifically because your at #1. Let's say each one of them racks up 75 negative points for you while compiling 200-400 positive points for themselves (you take a hit in total positive points you can get when you comparison recruite as oppose to a straight pitch).

            After 3 guys do this.. your 400 points turns into 75 points... while all the other teams are catching up with their 200 point gains and there's not a damn thing you can do about it.

            Also, i've seen 1 hour phone straight pitches get as little as 250 points or as much as 900 points.. all depending on several different factors.

            So just because you see that your ahead in points, it doesn't mean your going to stay ahead or that you can even calculate what you need to do to keep your lead... you just have to do the best recruiting you can and hope the chips fall your way.
            Thanks for the insight. I never thought about that aspect of it. I guess it'll be cool for online dynasties, but will the cpu recruit against you this year as well. That needs to happen.

            Originally posted by RynoAid
            recruiting is about the sim aspect of the game, if guys don't want to take the time to enjoy the recruiting parts there is still the option to have the CPU handle your recruiting for you.

            i never understood the arguement... guys want to be in control of recruiting but yet they don't want to take the time to recruit and enjoy that aspect of the dynasty...
            I never understood this either. I want recruiting to be as "tedious" as possible as long as it's simulating recruiting IRL.

            Originally posted by boritter
            So much for recruiting taking less time....

            I like recruiting but the truth is it becomes repetitive after a few seasons of dynasty. People don't mind 10 minutes of repetition but once recruiting takes longer than a game people begin to get frustrated.

            Doesn't the fact that it takes so long contradict the blogs claim that it makes phone calls faster?
            You should join an OD. I guarantee you won't think it's repetitive when you're trying to go after that stud DT and you're recruiting against almost everyone else in your OD. Now that's exciting.
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            • IndyBronco
              Rookie
              • May 2010
              • 30

              #141
              Recruiting is a way to build YOUR team the way you want it and all this talk about schools having the correct systems, how many schools use the exact same style of play year after year? Case in point-FLA going from tebow to a more traditional qb, they will have to adapt.

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              • IndyBronco
                Rookie
                • May 2010
                • 30

                #142
                I just want to be able to dive with my defender and actually get closer to the ball carrier, ( off topic, but i had to get that out, been bothering me for years)

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                • splff3000
                  All Star
                  • Jun 2003
                  • 2890

                  #143
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

                  Originally posted by IndyBronco
                  Recruiting is a way to build YOUR team the way you want it and all this talk about schools having the correct systems, how many schools use the exact same style of play year after year? Case in point-FLA going from tebow to a more traditional qb, they will have to adapt.
                  They will change the plays that they call ie no more QB sweeps and what not, but it will still be the same style. They will still run a spread offense with Brantley at QB. They just want have him running as much.
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                  • mrMagic91
                    Banned
                    • Apr 2010
                    • 1156

                    #144
                    Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

                    I like that they have done a bit more to recruiting, but this is minor IMO. I thought the first addition to dynasty would be something big. Im praying these last two blogs are something big.

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                    • IndyBronco
                      Rookie
                      • May 2010
                      • 30

                      #145
                      Point-spiff3000, I guess i was just thinking about in year 10 of my dynasty, if there were coaching changes or changes in philosophy's, it would make schools have to recruit differently and the CPU should be smarter at finding the correct players to fit their systems, as opposed to GT recruiting a small, slow qb

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                      • LBFitted
                        Rookie
                        • Jul 2009
                        • 151

                        #146
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

                        Originally posted by splff3000
                        This.
                        I'm not gonna say that this will ruin recruiting in OD's but I think it will severely change the way things are done. For instance, there were quite a few times in our OD in 10 were someone would give up recruiting someone because they thought they were too far behind. Now no one never knew how far behind they really were, but they thought they were too far and that's all that matters. That seems more lifelike to me than seeing points. I mean Florida State doesn't really know how far they are behind Miami in getting that top recruit. They can just assume which is what you had to do before this. I'm not saying it's going to ruin recruiting, I just think it makes it less realistic. Honestly, I would like to see a national signing day and if the top teams were within 100pts of each other the recruit could go to either one of those teams. Now, that would be pretty cool.
                        thats not true. You gotta remember they have recruiting insiders, and **** you can even watch college football live, espnu etc and find out how close and far you are in their decisions. Scouts inc, etc. They know when they are in the running and when they have no shot! I like it more that way personally
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                        • Bootzilla
                          MVP
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 1429

                          #147
                          Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

                          You know what a 5 star 6'2 220 lb fullback is? A linebacker. Most teams don't even use fullbacks let alone spend much time recruiting them.

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                          • splff3000
                            All Star
                            • Jun 2003
                            • 2890

                            #148
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

                            Originally posted by LBFitted
                            thats not true. You gotta remember they have recruiting insiders, and **** you can even watch college football live, espnu etc and find out how close and far you are in their decisions. Scouts inc, etc. They know when they are in the running and when they have no shot! I like it more that way personally
                            There's a difference between knowing you're in the running and knowing exactly how far behind you are. In 10, I knew if I was in the running or not. In 11, I will know exactly how far behind I am. Knowing exactly how far behind you are is not realistic IMO. I'm thinking this will be like Madden's scouting showing the potential of all the draftees BEFORE the draft............ It didn't ruin scouting and drafting, it just made it a lot easier and IMO, not as fun as if I didn't know the draftee potential.
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                            • oldman
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2006
                              • 1568

                              #149
                              If they really wanted to change the way this game is, they need to add something like the coaching carousel from College Hoops 2k8. Someone gets fired, new coach comes in, new system, and you actually see that team recruiting a different style of players. Now it is just, CPU team 1 needs x number of wr's even though they might be a running team and have a weak starting rb, it doesn't matter, the CPU follows the same pattern. The recruiting system EA is using is played out and this new addition is just more of the same.
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                              • RynoAid
                                Tradition Football
                                • Jan 2008
                                • 1122

                                #150
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Dynasty Blog: 1 of 3 - Phone Call

                                Originally posted by splff3000
                                There's a difference between knowing you're in the running and knowing exactly how far behind you are. In 10, I knew if I was in the running or not. In 11, I will know exactly how far behind I am. Knowing exactly how far behind you are is not realistic IMO. I'm thinking this will be like Madden's scouting showing the potential of all the draftees BEFORE the draft............ It didn't ruin scouting and drafting, it just made it a lot easier and IMO, not as fun as if I didn't know the draftee potential.
                                but you don't know

                                A. How many points you will get because pitches are random.

                                B. How many points he will get because pitches are random and you also have the possibility that he could be competetive recruiting against another competing team that is not you. This will drive down the top end of how many positive points he can get. You get more positive points with straight pitches than competetive recruiting.

                                C. How many people are competetive recruiting against the #1 team for that player and driving down any green points he got from his own recruiting.

                                So yea, there will be some players you can look at the numbers and know it will be hard to make it up and it's best to drop out... but there will be others that are somewhat competetive that you will stay in on and the numbers could go either way based on a myriad of factors.
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