Madden NFL 11: Another Year Without Full Rosters?

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  • brza37
    Pro
    • Oct 2008
    • 748

    #76
    Re: Madden NFL 11: Another Year Without Full Rosters?

    Originally posted by nuckles2k2
    So when I'm going through the opening day rosters, checking attributes before I start my franchise...why the hell should I have 80 dudes on each team when in reality there are 53 per team?
    We should have 80 players on the roster when we start our franchise because the game is released during the preseason and this way we can make our own cuts as we go through the preseason. Heck, even if the game was released in December this would be a cool feature because it adds meaning to the preseason. Look at the Head Coach forums and you'll see that there are still plenty of people that enjoy starting in the offseason so they can redo the 2008 Draft and make the cuts they see fit throughout the preseason.

    Originally posted by nuckles2k2
    Now in franchise I should have an expanded roster during the off-season. I don't have to start out with one, but if it's possible during the off-season then we have nothing to complain about.
    But if they are in fact putting 80 man rosters into Madden, does it really matter who Donny chooses for the final 53 right now? If the players are in the game they could be switched in with the roster management function. Also their is always a roster update on or around the release date anyway. So if they have created 80 players for each team that wouldn't be a big deal either to just swap guys out for online rosters. Its only a tough job if he's got to decide which 53 players per team to create right now with the risk that when the game releases some of those players won't be on rosters and will have to be replaced with players that aren't created and in the game yet because the game doesn't support 80 man rosters.

    But I'm not gonna argue anymore. The only point I said before is that Donny's tweet leads me to believe that there won't be full 80 man rosters in M11 and that is discouraging for me IF my conclusion is correct. I as well as all the other outsiders here can't pretend to KNOW for sure whether or not any feature is in the game or not until I actually play it myself.

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    • moneal2001
      Pro
      • Jul 2003
      • 835

      #77
      Re: Another year without full rosters?

      Originally posted by steelers1
      Well, though, there is a big difference. The NCAA guys don't need permission to put players in their game since they don't use names. They also can basically throw random ratings in for the lesser known players.

      In Madden, in order to put the extra 1000ish players in the game that would be necessary to be able to compile 80 man rosters with actual players, they would have to do a lot more work. Especially since a lot of those guys might not be on a team for long and would need to be compensated for being in the game (not sure how that works if a player isnt actually in the NFL). It would also be pretty tough to be accurate with the players.
      The trouble would be creating the players not paying them. There are a lot of players that are members of the NFLPA that are not put in the game or even on teams every year. EA pays the NFLPA to put in real players. They could use any of the players that are members of the PA.

      That is why Lavar Arrington was a clone(LB#52 I think) on the older 2000's madden games. He either wasn't part of the PA or decided to opt out of the EA contract.

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      • sois
        Banned
        • Nov 2007
        • 1900

        #78
        Re: Another year without full rosters?

        Originally posted by moneal2001
        The trouble would be creating the players not paying them. There are a lot of players that are members of the NFLPA that are not put in the game or even on teams every year. EA pays the NFLPA to put in real players. They could use any of the players that are members of the PA.
        Solution: Do whatever Head Coach did. Create fake players. Do SOMETHING. This is NOT a good excuse to give us only 53 spots to play with.

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        • thudias
          MVP
          • Jul 2006
          • 1995

          #79
          Re: Madden NFL 11: Another Year Without Full Rosters?

          Originally posted by brza37

          But I'm not gonna argue anymore. The only point I said before is that Donny's tweet leads me to believe that there won't be full 80 man rosters in M11 and that is discouraging for me IF my conclusion is correct. I as well as all the other outsiders here can't pretend to KNOW for sure whether or not any feature is in the game or not until I actually play it myself.
          I am led to believe the same conclusion. It isn't some super secret math formula here.

          Donny tweeted he is finalizing the 53 man rosters for Madden 11 + the past 20 years have never had more than 53 on a roster + there has been no confirmation of expanded rosters = (If I had to hypothesize) There will be 53 man rosters in Madden 11.
          Because I can!

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          • thudias
            MVP
            • Jul 2006
            • 1995

            #80
            Re: Another year without full rosters?

            Originally posted by moneal2001
            The trouble would be creating the players not paying them. There are a lot of players that are members of the NFLPA that are not put in the game or even on teams every year. EA pays the NFLPA to put in real players. They could use any of the players that are members of the PA.

            That is why Lavar Arrington was a clone(LB#52 I think) on the older 2000's madden games. He either wasn't part of the PA or decided to opt out of the EA contract.

            Sorry this makes no sense...Solution Head Coach 09 had expanded rosters..what did they do?? Ok, Now do that for Madden.
            Because I can!

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            • chicubsfan20
              MVP
              • Jun 2007
              • 1078

              #81
              Re: Another year without full rosters?

              I would really love the rosters to be expanded, and have the full 80 men. But hell, if they give me a working IR atleast a 53 man roster will be usable and I can have injuries.
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              • moneal2001
                Pro
                • Jul 2003
                • 835

                #82
                Re: Another year without full rosters?

                Originally posted by thudias
                Sorry this makes no sense...Solution Head Coach 09 had expanded rosters..what did they do?? Ok, Now do that for Madden.
                I was saying that the adding real players would be the trouble not paying for them. Sorry if that didn't come across as what I was saying.

                Exactly, that is what they should do. They had real players and some fakes each year that were added to each team during the training camp/preseason.

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                • Jukeman
                  Showtime
                  • Aug 2005
                  • 10955

                  #83
                  Re: Another year without full rosters?

                  Originally posted by moneal2001
                  I was saying that the adding real players would be the trouble not paying for them. Sorry if that didn't come across as what I was saying.

                  Exactly, that is what they should do. They had real players and some fakes each year that were added to each team during the training camp/preseason.
                  They dont even have to add plyers if thats the problem, just expand the roster limit to 80..

                  Oh and to the people saying "fix IR and I'll be happy" um well, the IR isnt broke, we dont have a true IR because of the roster limit...
                  Last edited by Jukeman; 05-20-2010, 04:43 PM.

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                  • sois
                    Banned
                    • Nov 2007
                    • 1900

                    #84
                    Re: Another year without full rosters?

                    Originally posted by Jukeman
                    Oh and to the people saying "fix IR and I'll be happy" um well, the IR isnt broke, we dont have a true IR because of the roster limit...
                    That circular argument means we are all on the same side, brother!

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                    • Jukeman
                      Showtime
                      • Aug 2005
                      • 10955

                      #85
                      Re: Another year without full rosters?

                      Originally posted by sois
                      That circular argument means we are all on the same side, brother!
                      LMAO I remember our lil debate about this last year between me and you

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                      • sois
                        Banned
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 1900

                        #86
                        Re: Another year without full rosters?

                        Originally posted by Jukeman
                        LMAO I remember our lil debate about this last year between me and you
                        We keep getting older, but the Madden franchise problems stay the same

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