Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

Collapse

Recommended Videos

Collapse
X
 
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • Matt Young
    Rookie
    • Oct 2008
    • 72

    #256
    Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

    Using the right stick to juke/spin/truck feels good and works fluently, but Madden's been doing it for years and they're improving on it this year. As far as the rest of the game goes, it's like they took Madden's Superstar mode and made it into a game, which is not a good thing. Yes, you can switch players, but too often on defense, you aren't even a part of the play.

    Speaking of defense, the lack of control is astounding. You have no ability whatsoever to jump up to tip or intercept a pass. None. You just have to stand by the receiver and hope your man automatically jumps up and catches it. I'm complaining even though I got interceptions on nearly every pass. I saw no tips whatsoever in all the games I played.

    The fact that fact that you face the same direction whether on offense or defense is really off-putting. In fact, everything about the camera angles sucks. I get that they were trying to put you "in the game", but you can't see anything downfield while passing. And, speaking of passing, they again ripped off Madden. Their receiver switching mechanism is exactly the same as the "vision cone" from Madden, just without the actual cone shape shown on the field. Again, not a good thing.

    At its core, the game is pretty fun, but it falls well short of the hype. Not one single thing aside from the physics engine/tackling is better than Madden, NCAA, or the 2K series. Combine that with the fact that this game will drop in price to $30, if not $20, by the time the NFL regular season starts... I'll pick it up for that price, but I have no problem waiting. Keep in mind that this is coming from someone who has become increasingly frustrated and angry with how Madden 10 plays, the more time I spend with it.

    Overall impression: Thumbs in the middle.

    Comment

    • turftickler
      Rookie
      • Feb 2008
      • 398

      #257
      Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by SA1NT401
      My initial Impressions after about an hour or so.....

      Pros:

      - Euphoria makes such a huge differance in every single area of the game. HUGE addition to BB and will only get more impressive the more you play. Great accomplishment right there. In practice i ran the drill to RUN INSIDE. DId that about 50 times...Dont recall seeing the same tackles...SWEET!

      - Camera is great IMHO. Sure it will take some getting used to and it should. We have been playing from GODS VIEW for over 20 yrs (many of us anyway). Wonderful view for the game of football.

      - Identity...Natural Motion has established itself and has actually done something quite differant and it works.

      - Gameplay. BB Plays NOTHING like what we have had in the past...NOTHING at all. This is a GREAT thing honestly.

      -AI- This was my biggest concern. On NORMAL (pro Mode not Arcade) the AI seems MORE than up to the task without being CHEAP. This makes me very happy. WR were covered when they should. I got to the QB a few times and got 3 sacks in my time with the DEMO. Same for the CPU. Passing will take PRACTICE (never thought i would say that).

      Cons:

      -Camera: Although is listed it as a pro (which it is) it can be a bit touchy. Sure it has a bit to do with the game being a demo and possible a slightly older build. Either way it has its good and bad points.

      -Defense: Again, with practice, the new perspective will still take some getting used to and DL moves and getting a good jump off the line is gonna take alot of practice. This area may turn some people away mainly due to the fact your view is limited and when swithcing players the camera can really goof you up and cost you.

      -Playbooks: Maybe it is the DEMO, but even tho all teams have a slightly differant playbook (good selection of plays overall tho) seems like formations are pretty vanilla. This area doesnt bother me really as i figured there would only be 1-2 total playbooks. Some could be put off.

      All in ALL the demo solidified my purchase...I am very pleased. Hope ROad to BB and their "Franchise" mode really adds to the experience (dont plan on playing online). So the franchise modes are really gonna determine how much i get put of it
      What's up SAINT? Playing defense bothered me at first until I got a good feel for it. It's definitely different and I even try to play it like I was playing NCAA 10 on defense. Now this is not a comparison, but I do feel that NaturalMotion has done a great job on the defensive side of the ball. I was getting lost at first, but I think it takes more time and more games under our belts to get a good feel for what they wanted us to feel.
      http://truesimgamers.informe.com/forum/

      Comment

      • PlatooN
        GO PACK GO
        • Apr 2009
        • 713

        #258
        Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

        tackle alley is a pretty fun mini game. glad they included this in the demo!!
        __________________________________________
        you're not feeling me?
        Fine; it cost you nothing - pay me no mind
        __________________________________________

        Comment

        • TracerBullet
          One Last Job
          • Jun 2009
          • 22119

          #259
          Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

          The first penalty I saw was an illegal touching of a forward pass when a lineman turned around and caught a screen pass. Haven't seen any roughing yet like some of you are experiencing.
          Originally posted by BlueNGold
          I feel weird for liking a post about exposed penises.

          Comment

          • hatisback
            Banned
            • Nov 2004
            • 1013

            #260
            Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by turftickler
            Thanks for that. I honestly can say that the only one I have noticed is the punt/field goal roughing the kicker.

            Again, I'm not expecting perfection from any game, just true effort to please the fans.
            All three happened towards the end of the half. So far I have had no problems in the first quarter.

            Comment

            • allBthere
              All Star
              • Jan 2008
              • 5847

              #261
              Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

              Originally posted by ufgators253
              The first penalty I saw was an illegal touching of a forward pass when a lineman turned around and caught a screen pass. Haven't seen any roughing yet like some of you are experiencing.
              I've seen one roughing the kicker in 10 games. I like how it's rougher than the NFL, you can kill the qb after he releases the ball, just can't do it crazy late.

              everyone should try playing indy on hard! I haven't beat them yet. It's a real manning in there! their defence is better than the colts though

              Playing AS indy it's much easier completing passes too. The teams are all fairly different to me. So far OLB is the best position to play as on D.

              I really wish I could have buttons for passing and stick for running though.

              Overall I like it more and more as I play it.

              I think it's pretty safe to say there's a new kid on the block and he's kicking some arse! I love how important special teams are in this game. Fumbles are right on as far as frequency...the only thing I'm seeing too much of is interceptions - but a lot of that has to do with the team matchups. Everytime I play indy the guy puts up similar numbers to manning. However I have played other teams and got 3 ints in the half (2min quarters)...Every game is different that's for sure, and every game you see at least a couple of things that amp you up and say wow. I absolutely love the randomness.

              edit; where's my buddy jmood? where you at son! jk... I'd really like to hear what you think about it though. There are some negatives for sure, but I haven't played a demo this much since ufc2009. I've been playing for almost 4 hours straight.
              Last edited by allBthere; 05-21-2010, 02:36 PM.
              Liquor in the front, poker in the rear.

              Comment

              • hatisback
                Banned
                • Nov 2004
                • 1013

                #262
                Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                Originally posted by allBthere
                I've seen one roughing the kicker in 10 games. I like how it's rougher than the NFL, you can kill the qb after he releases the ball, just can't do it crazy late.

                everyone should try playing indy on hard! I haven't beat them yet. It's a real manning in there! their defence is better than the colts though

                Playing AS indy it's much easier completing passes too. The teams are all fairly different to me. So far OLB is the best position to play as on D.

                I really wish I could have buttons for passing and stick for running though.

                Overall I like it more and more as I play it.

                I think it's pretty safe to say there's a new kid on the block and he's kicking some arse! I love how important special teams are in this game. Fumbles are right on as far as frequency...the only thing I'm seeing too much of is interceptions - but a lot of that has to do with the team matchups. Everytime I play indy the guy puts up similar numbers to manning. However I have played other teams and got 3 ints in the half (2min quarters)...Every game is different that's for sure, and every game you see at least a couple of things that amp you up and say wow. I absolutely love the randomness.
                The thing is throwing three interceptions may have to do with a few things....

                1) Nobody knows how bad the qb's are because we cant access ratings.

                2) The quarter length may have influence on how the CPU's offenses are run since they are so short.

                3) This is a future league so maybe throwing six picks are not abnormal for this league.

                Comment

                • Dixie353
                  Rookie
                  • May 2010
                  • 19

                  #263
                  Originally posted by DakkoN
                  The animation created by the Euphoria engine are absolutely unbelievable. I just caught the Punter with his kicking leg up in the air and picked him up by his other leg and planted him into the ground. The game is really satisfying when you make a play.
                  Get your skills up! BB is rocks! Yes there are some areas that may seem to need some improvements (Being a Demo game) however I'm sold! My hopes are BB will get enough support so NM will develop a second game. That is where I believe Fans support will help them develop the ultimate game.
                  June 1 cant come quick enough for me. Can't wait to start building my own league.

                  Comment

                  • Dixie353
                    Rookie
                    • May 2010
                    • 19

                    #264
                    Originally posted by Dixie353
                    Get your skills up! BB is rocks! Yes there are some areas that may seem to need some improvements (Being a Demo game) however I'm sold! My hopes are BB will get enough support so NM will develop a second game. That is where I believe Fans support will help them develop the ultimate game.
                    June 1 cant come quick enough for me. Can't wait to start building my own league.
                    In my excitement I had a miss print, just to be clear BB Rocks! Loving this demo.....

                    Comment

                    • p_rushing
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Feb 2004
                      • 14514

                      #265
                      Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                      on a squib kick, because I screwed up, 2 CPU OL both went for the bouncing high ball and knocked each other over

                      Comment

                      • Cap617
                        Rookie
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 8

                        #266
                        Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                        I wish you could switch receivers with the triggers or something because it takes too long this way I think and you don't have a lot of time in the pocket as it is. Other than that I love the game.

                        Comment

                        • p_rushing
                          Hall Of Fame
                          • Feb 2004
                          • 14514

                          #267
                          Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                          The muffed punts going into the endzone rules are correct.



                          You can switch WRs before play by using Focus and R-Stick

                          Comment

                          • boooey
                            Pro
                            • Aug 2007
                            • 836

                            #268
                            Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                            wow, it feels so nice to finally have a new fresh football game.

                            having said that, man i really suck at this game right now.
                            I wish i could turn down the game speed or something.

                            I find myself losing my bearings on some pass plays, and even running the wrong way a couple of times.

                            Wish i could just zoom out a little bit. not a lot , but just a little more.
                            definitely a steep learning curve here.

                            but honestly, its better than i thought it would be so far.

                            Comment

                            • roadman
                              *ll St*r
                              • Aug 2003
                              • 26339

                              #269
                              Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Still loving the tackles and animations in this game. It's a sight to behold.

                              Last game, punted a ball and three players tried to catch it and they all went down like bowling pins. Interesting.

                              Another missed XP after a TD for the A.I. That's 7 missed XP's for the A.I. in five games, three on pro hard.

                              Also, I question the A.I's decision in the 1st quarter up 12 to 0 to go for two. I think most of the time, coach's are happy to be up by 13 and kick the XP.

                              Also, another weird time management call. The A.I. is up 14 to 0 with 21 seconds left in the half and the ball on their 20. They come out in GL formation, so, I think they will run out the clock with 21 ticks left. They run straight ahead and for 4 yds and then call timeout with 12 seconds left. Weird. They came out with 3 wide and tried to pass the ball and I intercept.

                              Just seeing some questionable playcalls and time management issues throughout the 5 games I've played.

                              Also, not one penalty thrown, either.

                              Still a good game, but I need to see more of the A.I.

                              Comment

                              • CreatineKasey
                                MVP
                                • Sep 2007
                                • 4897

                                #270
                                Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                                I think the special teams are too loose. I've gotten numerous roughing the kicker penalties. i just got a blocked punt last game where the offense's blocker strafed in front of the punter and blocked if for me. Keep in mind it's a punt RETURN play not a block attempt. Not a fan.

                                The player interactions are definitely phenomenal at all aspects of tackling and blocking. I had one play where I was the MLB and I kept grinding and fighting through a blocker with the HB behind him so the rest of my team could come in and wrap the guy up. It felt great. Plays consistently feel that way. The tackles don't get old. They all make sense...very free flowing.

                                The jump passes are bad to be honest. The CPU is doing that garbage all the time. DL gets penetration so fast and the QB doesn't seem capable of handling it.

                                I like how difficult pass accuracy is, but so far I'm really struggling to switch WR. I was kind of hoping they'd let us change who the primary WR is. I feel like I'm almost forced to hit my first read.

                                I also have not seen a tipped pass. Not one. Every pass has been an INT attempt by defenders. Every single one.

                                QB scrambling seems too easy. I've had pass plays where I didn't see anything open and instead I tucked it down and ran for over 15 yards easily. I remember that preview a long time ago griping about the D not recognizing the QB scrambles. There may be a grain of truth to that article.

                                All in all I'm still on the fence. I saw some great pass blocking schemes and I LOVE how messy the game plays... that's real sport. I just don't know if I'd play this game seriously online. I'll probably end up waiting until release to see how online lag is and if they have any regulation of CAP teams. I don't feel like screening games to face a non-99 OVR team.
                                Xbox Live Gamertag: CreatineKasey

                                M - I - N - N - E - S - O - T - A

                                Comment

                                Working...