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  • LBzrule
    Hall Of Fame
    • Jul 2002
    • 13085

    #271
    Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

    After playing for awhile, I will say, what this game does well it really does well. I know the camera is supposed to be realistic, but I'm literally sick to my stomach from all of the quick switching and I have a headache from it. Now of course, one my say, is BB the cause? I would respond, who knows. But I've been taking my allergy medicine every morning and felt fine. I'm on the same eating regimen from the start of the month. I really like what they accomplished with the pass protection schemes and I like that there is pre-snap movement on defense and you get a lot of different looks in the box.

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    • hatisback
      Banned
      • Nov 2004
      • 1013

      #272
      Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by CreatineKasey
      I think the special teams are too loose. I've gotten numerous roughing the kicker penalties. i just got a blocked punt last game where the offense's blocker strafed in front of the punter and blocked if for me. Keep in mind it's a punt RETURN play not a block attempt. Not a fan.

      The player interactions are definitely phenomenal at all aspects of tackling and blocking. I had one play where I was the MLB and I kept grinding and fighting through a blocker with the HB behind him so the rest of my team could come in and wrap the guy up. It felt great. Plays consistently feel that way. The tackles don't get old. They all make sense...very free flowing.

      The jump passes are bad to be honest. The CPU is doing that garbage all the time. DL gets penetration so fast and the QB doesn't seem capable of handling it.

      I like how difficult pass accuracy is, but so far I'm really struggling to switch WR. I was kind of hoping they'd let us change who the primary WR is. I feel like I'm almost forced to hit my first read.

      I also have not seen a tipped pass. Not one. Every pass has been an INT attempt by defenders. Every single one.

      QB scrambling seems too easy. I've had pass plays where I didn't see anything open and instead I tucked it down and ran for over 15 yards easily. I remember that preview a long time ago griping about the D not recognizing the QB scrambles. There may be a grain of truth to that article.

      All in all I'm still on the fence. I saw some great pass blocking schemes and I LOVE how messy the game plays... that's real sport. I just don't know if I'd play this game seriously online. I'll probably end up waiting until release to see how online lag is and if they have any regulation of CAP teams. I don't feel like screening games to face a non-99 OVR team.
      You can Kasey by holding the left trigger before the snap and selecting the receiver with the right stick.

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      • LingeringRegime
        Hall Of Fame
        • Jun 2007
        • 17089

        #273
        Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

        For those of you who have the demo could you answer these questions?

        What are the categories for the attributes of the Offensive/Defensive players?

        What are the numerical ranges for these attributes? (Ex. 1-100, etc.)

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        • hatisback
          Banned
          • Nov 2004
          • 1013

          #274
          Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

          Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
          For those of you who have the demo could you answer these questions?

          What are the categories for the attributes of the Offensive/Defensive players?

          What are the numerical ranges for these attributes? (Ex. 1-100, etc.)
          Focus, Speed, Agility, and Strength are the ones we can see on the depth chart screen....though it could be more but we cant access them on the demo.

          Range is 1-100

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          • CreatineKasey
            MVP
            • Sep 2007
            • 4897

            #275
            Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by hatisback
            You can Kasey by holding the left trigger before the snap and selecting the receiver with the right stick.
            A ha! Thank you! I was getting mad because I'd read something pre-snap but I couldn't move the WR over fast enough.
            Xbox Live Gamertag: CreatineKasey

            M - I - N - N - E - S - O - T - A

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            • sparkyiii2k
              Pro
              • Sep 2005
              • 587

              #276
              Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

              What build is the demo alpha, mid or final build?
              It's stupid to spend $65 to cheat...play with honor but have fun..

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              • Klocker
                MVP
                • Jul 2003
                • 3239

                #277
                Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                I love playing defense, the camera takes some getting used to but I have always been a fan of cameras like the "DRIVE" camera and first person modes for sports games so I DIG IT... also it's so nice to see the play develop from the defense side and hits feel great... Also I made a pick with my LB by dropping into coverage and hitting Y. Was that a fluke 'cause I was in position or does Y jump/catch?

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                • Matt Young
                  Rookie
                  • Oct 2008
                  • 72

                  #278
                  Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                  A demo is pretty much always from the final build. Alphas are never released publicly, and betas are referred to as betas. The game's already been pressed onto disc, as it releases in 12 days.

                  EDIT: That was a fluke. Y does nothing/ Your guy jumps or doesn't automatically.

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                  • LingeringRegime
                    Hall Of Fame
                    • Jun 2007
                    • 17089

                    #279
                    Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                    Originally posted by hatisback
                    Focus, Speed, Agility, and Strength are the ones we can see on the depth chart screen....though it could be more but we cant access them on the demo.

                    Range is 1-100
                    Thank man, I appreciate it.

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                    • hatisback
                      Banned
                      • Nov 2004
                      • 1013

                      #280
                      Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                      Originally posted by DEFTFUNDAMENTALZ
                      Thank man, I appreciate it.
                      No problem.

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                      • CaptainZombie
                        Brains
                        • Jul 2003
                        • 37851

                        #281
                        Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by Matt Young
                        A demo is pretty much always from the final build. Alphas are never released publicly, and betas are referred to as betas. The game's already been pressed onto disc, as it releases in 12 days.

                        EDIT: That was a fluke. Y does nothing/ Your guy jumps or doesn't automatically.
                        Not true. You know how many demos have been released over the years where the demo is a completely different experience from the final build?

                        I can see this demo being off the final build due to the demo coming so late.

                        Like DEFT, I'm itching to play this darn demo. I hate Sony and their damn policies of only releasing on Tuesdays. One positive if they start charging for PSN is hopefully they allow for this open door policy like XBL does.
                        HDMovie Room

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                        • Matt Young
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2008
                          • 72

                          #282
                          Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                          None? If they release a demo less than 2 weeks before a game's release, it's from the final build. A beta is something that is different from the final build and is used to garner feedback for the final game. A demo is a sample of the final game.

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                          • jmood88
                            Sean Payton: Retribution
                            • Jul 2003
                            • 34639

                            #283
                            Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                            The computer's offense is either stupid or the defense is way too good cause it doesn't matter what I call, the defense will get a sack or tackle the runningback 5+ yards behind the line of scrimmage. The camera was something that I thought I would like from watching the videos but when I switch to a different player while a play is happening I have no idea what's going on and for whatever reason when I'm doing a toss play the runningback will run backwards automatically. Outside of the game, everything else is just bland. The stadiums look nice but the lack of presentation will make the games get boring.

                            The demo really just makes me wish that VC would license the Euphoria engine and make a new All Pro Football.
                            Last edited by jmood88; 05-21-2010, 03:32 PM.
                            Originally posted by Blzer
                            Let me assure you that I am a huge proponent of size, and it greatly matters. Don't ever let anyone tell you otherwise.

                            If I went any bigger, it would not have properly fit with my equipment, so I had to optimize. I'm okay with it, but I also know what I'm missing with those five inches. :)

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                            • Pared
                              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 39337

                              #284
                              Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by Matt Young
                              A demo is pretty much always from the final build. Alphas are never released publicly, and betas are referred to as betas. The game's already been pressed onto disc, as it releases in 12 days.

                              EDIT: That was a fluke. Y does nothing/ Your guy jumps or doesn't automatically.
                              I'm sorry Matt, but especially in the sports gaming industry, you're wrong.

                              I can tell you this with first hand knowledge of at least 8 largely released annual sports titles.

                              What typically happens is they take an unfinished build and have a separate group work on the demo by removing access to features and the like. This is usually done over a month before shipping so it can pass certification and clear before the title is officially released.
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                              • Matt Young
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                                • Oct 2008
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                                #285
                                Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                                With 99% of games, everything is completed a month before shipping, anyway.

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