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  • brezz2001
    Pro
    • Mar 2003
    • 707

    #496
    Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

    Beyond what has been mentioned about the camera, why is it that I get a roughing the punter on every CPU punt???

    Brian

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    • TajDeni
      Pro
      • May 2010
      • 906

      #497
      Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

      Originally posted by Altoonasfinest
      Question would you pick BB over madden or NCAA?
      would I?,

      i am actually hopefull 2wards ncaa11 this yr, so i think unless that game gets terrible feedback that will prolly be where my money would go if i had to pick just 1.

      that being said i have no allegiences to noone as far as my money goes...i will buy whatever game i honestly feel is the best game for the value of my money...its the reason i purchased ncaa09 over madden but purchased madden10 over ncaa10...or why after yrs of playing nba live i left for nba2k.

      so for me i like i said earlier i think that backbreaker is what superstar mode should be like, and if at some point the game dropped to like $20-30 i would give it a shot..(there is no franchise mode so cant see dropping $60)..but lets say that i get the game at some point and really like it, and the next installment of backbreak improved upon this version as far as gameplay and features go...then who knows what could happen..

      as of this moment in time i view this game as a possible alternative football gaming experience to ncaa or madden, as i think is more superstar or road to glory mode than a full fledged football simulator....however, like i said im always gonna be where i think the best value 4 my money is at...and if at some point in the future thats backbreak...then so be it.

      i know this is long winded but i like to answer question thoroughly

      edit: this video is superstar mode at its finest:
      Last edited by TajDeni; 05-22-2010, 07:20 AM.
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      • Exonerated
        MVP
        • Dec 2007
        • 4899

        #498
        Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

        Originally posted by Altoonasfinest
        Question would you pick BB over madden or NCAA?
        I would not. [However, I'm getting all 3].

        As a previous colleague of mine suggested, BB is what Superstar and Campus Legend should be.

        The graphics and interactions are great but its quite lacking in every other area.

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        • JMD
          MVP
          • Feb 2008
          • 4456

          #499
          Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

          Originally posted by brezz2001
          Beyond what has been mentioned about the camera, why is it that I get a roughing the punter on every CPU punt???

          Brian
          Yeah t the one thing that is pissing me off is the roughing the kicker penalties. I've started switching to the closest player when the CPU punts and I pull him back from making the hit. I've stopped a ton of drives only to have them get the ball back on a roughing penalty. Also 5 min quarters would have been nice, 2 is just not enough time to get into the game, other then that LOVE IT!

          PS: I've never had so much fun playing defense before, it is awesome in this game. I choose my player before the snap and I stay with him for the entire play, excellent. Can't wait to get the game and put myself in it at MLB.

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          • Demoncrom
            Rookie
            • Jun 2008
            • 118

            #500
            Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

            Originally posted by TajDeni

            backbreaker is what superstar mode or road to glory mode is supposed to look like, for me when seen in this manner, i think this demo is a smashing success,
            This is a prefect point, BB tries to put you on the field for every down so play calling is as critical to play execution. Depending on your experience with the sport you might not like it. I played in leagues when I was younger and I am feeling it, but it does not replace Madden.

            The ability to option out of a play is well done, though I don't like the playcalling menu, I think its too slow, I would rather be able to see more plays. There are no line stunts on Defense or the ability to change single assignments. There also appears to be no hot routes, so in terms of layers the experience is basic.

            The Plays are well executed though and the playbook looks to be deep, not sure if different, but there are lots a plays so that is good. i've played 20 games and I have to say I like the selection.

            Game speed is pretty fast, which makes it like real football, you might not be involved in every defensive play, but this is not a bad thing

            On Offense there needs to be 2 additions I think. 1. The QB needs some kind of inidcator that he is about to get hammered, maybe a little rumble or something. You have to increase your mental clock - you WILL NOT be sitting back in the pocket or running backwards to perform a pass - make a decision (I like this much)

            The runner needs to be able to push off his own men, getting tangled with your boys happens often so for now I try to find the hole and shoot through it.

            All in all, I like what I see and am ordering it this week,

            BOOM

            lol

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            • keshunleon
              MVP
              • Apr 2006
              • 2111

              #501
              This game is to complicated to enjoy over a period of time. The angles are not good for offense and defense. I run into the problem trying to avoid a sack and throw the pass I want. So far everything seems to be good except the gameplay.
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              • LingeringRegime
                Hall Of Fame
                • Jun 2007
                • 17089

                #502
                Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                Originally posted by Altoonasfinest
                Question would you pick BB over madden or NCAA?
                From what I have researched, and also the videos I have seen I am going to. But it depends on what you want from a Football game. Some love to play with "real" players. I prefer never seeing the same play twice, and true to life physics. But, that is just me.

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                • sky454
                  Banned
                  • Mar 2009
                  • 49

                  #503
                  Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                  Originally posted by sky454
                  Can someone answer these three questions for us sim gamers who don't want to waste our time having to deal with nanos.

                  1. Has Backbreaker eliminated nanos or borderline nanos (sacks in 0.5 seconds or sacks in 1 or 1.5 seconds etc.)?

                  2. Can we manually reposition defensive lineman prior to the snap? If so where? You know how madden cheats would manually take a right defensive lineman PRIOR to the snap and manually reposition him all the way over to the opposite side, left side of the tv screen to blitz.

                  3. Can you manually reposition a ton of defensive players PRIOR to the snap to try and nano or borderline nano or more importantly exploit the a.i. of the offensive line like you can in madden?

                  I'm hoping the answers to all of these questions are no. I have a ps3 so I'm stuck waiting until tuesday. Thanks.
                  Can anyone confirm that these madden exploits have been eliminated from backbreaker?

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                  • steelersfan7
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2008
                    • 359

                    #504
                    Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                    I only thing that I see wrong is you dont know when you are gonna get sacked. The gameplay is solid, takes a little getting used to the controls but its fun. Every play is different, no suction blocking!!!! Defense takes getting used to since we are all so used to the madden setup. All in all i think this will be a must buy, too bad u cant play a little bit longer games on the demo.
                    GO STEELERS!!!

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                    • ZoneBlitz
                      MVP
                      • Jun 2003
                      • 1402

                      #505
                      I love this game! Only one problem, the current camera makes me dizzy. When there is another camera angle - one that zooms further out, I will buy this game. If they confirm a farther out camera angle, I will buy it.

                      That being said, this game is awesome. It seems like you have to earn every play. I especially love playing defense. Forcing you to choose one person - and do something with him - adds such depth and purpose to playing defense. I got goosebumps!

                      Great job. Fix the camera angle - zoom it further out - and I'm hooked.
                      When the game is on the line, winners want the ball.

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                      • linkboy
                        Rookie
                        • Dec 2006
                        • 113

                        #506
                        Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                        Originally posted by steelersfan7
                        I only thing that I see wrong is you dont know when you are gonna get sacked. The gameplay is solid, takes a little getting used to the controls but its fun. Every play is different, no suction blocking!!!! Defense takes getting used to since we are all so used to the madden setup. All in all i think this will be a must buy, too bad u cant play a little bit longer games on the demo.
                        Playing QB in this game is probably the closest I've seen to the actual position in real life. Real QBs don't know when they're gonna get sacked either. How many times have we see a QB just get totally whacked by a defensive player that he didn't see coming.

                        I like how the QB only had 2/3 seconds to throw the ball before he gets sacked, that's pretty realistic (the 49ers last year used a 3 second clock to work on their QBs quick release).

                        I've logged about 4 games on this demo and I just keep getting better and better at it. Can't wait for the full version.

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                        • vols bravesfan
                          Banned
                          • Feb 2009
                          • 1051

                          #507
                          Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                          Originally posted by Altoonasfinest
                          Question would you pick BB over madden or NCAA?
                          For me I'll buy NCAA but to answer your question, yes.

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                          • NFLHITMAN
                            Pro
                            • Feb 2008
                            • 924

                            #508
                            Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                            Originally posted by NoSkillz50
                            i think the dissatisfaction with the camera is due to frustration and the fact that it's a little cluttered and nerve-racking. that's how football is though, the qb has to read the defense from that angle, they have to progress through their reads, they can't throw it to any receiver they want at will at any time during their routes. real qbs don't approach the game like you do in madden, they can't get that clear vision of the field until they go back and study the tape. i think people will learn how to pass from this new camera angle. the peripheral vision is fine, it's a decent 3rd person camera, its not the usual 120 degree fps vision. might not be perfect, but it's pretty reasonable.
                            Great point!
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                            • CreatineKasey
                              MVP
                              • Sep 2007
                              • 4897

                              #509
                              Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                              Originally posted by Altoonasfinest
                              Question would you pick BB over madden or NCAA?
                              Absolutely not. M11 and NCAA11 for me. Online leagues are a major draw for me.

                              BTW, I think the camera is awesome in BB, but it doesn't take away from my issues with the game. I love the intense, frantic view.
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                              • Valdarez
                                All Star
                                • Feb 2008
                                • 5075

                                #510
                                Re: Backbreaker Demo Available, Post Your Impressions Here

                                Just played the demo. Not a fan of the camera angle, and I can't stand the end of play. I was fairly certain of this from the game videos, and I have sounded off on it every chance I had. The demo only confirmed my reservations. The worst part is the slamming down at the end of the play followed by the completely unrealistic blurring. The blurring out at the end of the play kills my eyes. I'm not sure I can play the game because of it (eye condition). Why in the world did they blur it like that when the game looks so wonderful? Horrible design decision.

                                The controls are extremely difficult to get used to, but that's mostly due to the camera angle. They really need to make the angle adjustable, or just make it a first person perspective. What they use now seems to be the worst of both worlds.

                                I'll play some more later today and then report further.
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