Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 11 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

[DivotMaker]

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but my last game was TW07, and that game had a scoring issue as far as the computer scores...has this issue been fixed by EA?, or is there something that i personally can do to fix this issue if it needs to be fixed. this is the prolly the only issue that could keep me from purchasing the game.

I asked this question at TW Community Day back in February and I was told that the AI was fixed....we'll find out in just over a week....

[The Bimmer]

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I asked this question at TW Community Day back in February and I was told that the AI was fixed....we'll find out in just over a week....

I am like many others, havent played TWG in 3 yrs. The demo is very cool and if the A.I. is indeed fixed as you were told, I will buy this game.

[shaunjuan2000]

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Divot , are we talking the rubberband AI or scores of 20 under winning tournaments? I know rubberband AI was fixed by TW10.

[DivotMaker]

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Divot , are we talking the rubberband AI or scores of 20 under winning tournaments? I know rubberband AI was fixed by TW10.

Both.

[shaunjuan2000]

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Thats great to hear. Only 16 more days. Wish I could go to sleep tonight and not wake up til June 8th. The demo is starting to get old. Can't wait to hear some more tomorrow from Cameron Lee and the dev chat Tuesday. You gonna be online on Tuesday for that?

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Re: Tiger Woods PGA TOUR 11 Demo Available Now, Post Impressions Here

but my last game was TW07, and that game had a scoring issue as far as the computer scores...has this issue been fixed by EA?, or is there something that i personally can do to fix this issue if it needs to be fixed. this is the prolly the only issue that could keep me from purchasing the game.

Okay, I see where you're coming from on this. IMO, TW 10 was the first in the series that didn't feel like the AI used rubberband AI excessively. To a degree it happens, but my offline season mode produced some reasonbly better results. I won a tournament with an 18 under par total in Tour Pro mode.

I have my regular golfer built to do well to bust 20 under in Tour Pro, for 72 holes. The lowest winning score I've seen from an AI player was -24, for 72. This may have something to do with the way my golfer is built and what his stats are, because I've read other reports from people who've seen -30 to -35 win season tournaments. I won one tournament when I got really hot and finished -42. The nearest pro was at -22.

From what I'm reading, this should be even better in '11.

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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Okay, I see where you're coming from on this. IMO, TW 10 was the first in the series that didn't feel like the AI used rubberband AI excessively. To a degree it happens, but my offline season mode produced some reasonbly better results. I won a tournament with an 18 under par total in Tour Pro mode.

I have my regular golfer built to do well to bust 20 under in Tour Pro, for 72 holes. The lowest winning score I've seen from an AI player was -24, for 72. This may have something to do with the way my golfer is built and what his stats are, because I've read other reports from people who've seen -30 to -35 win season tournaments. I won one tournament when I got really hot and finished -42. The nearest pro was at -22.

From what I'm reading, this should be even better in '11.

I hope this is the case. Maybe the ridiculous AI scores had more to do with making your golfer with super skills and the AI adjusted accordingly because I was reading where a variance of gamers seeing scores of -20 to -40. I think alot of "sim" gamers don't admit they build thier golfer to unrealistic proportions so they can win almost everytime then complain about the AI scoring unrealistically taking away the sim experience even though thier created golfer is averaging 375 yard drives.

I give my golfer power enough that he averages about 290-300 yds and touch little else. Hopefully this will give me AI scores in the -10 to -15 range.

Another issue is course difficulty and weather affecting AI scores realistically. If it's raining and gusty then scores should reflect it where everybody struggles to break par and if playing at Bethpage the winner shouldn't be higher than -10.

[T Puddy]

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a lot will depend on how they handle the online modes. In 10, it seemed that 90% of games were on easy settings with easy greens with everyone getting birds and eagles on every hole. If they make a better matchmaking system, the tweaks (like focus and true aim) will be welcome...but if nobody online uses them, then what good are they???

[pietasterp]

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This is the one game (maybe in the world) that I prefer to play exclusively on the Wii...having said that, my roots are in PC golf (Leaderboard golf, anyone?) so I download the demo every year. First impressions are that, as always, the color palette is just too darned dark for me. I guess I might as well stop complaining about it, because that's the engine/color scheme they're sticking with for the forseeable future, but the grass colors, the rough, trees, etc. all just look too gloomy and dark to me (even when it's supposedly a sunny day). I complain about this every year, but I just hate it so much I can't not say anything. Golf is about being out in the bright sunshine and being in the lush grassy plots of your local track, and everything looks very vibrant and colorful. TW always looks like it's overcast at dusk and it's about to rain....

Oh well, they aren't changing that. I also hate the character models in this game - they look like they were colored in with pastels, and they move so herky-jerky. Also on my dislike list: the camera angles/options. Again, it's like year #65 in a row or something that I've complained about the lack of a static behind-the-player cam or a behind-the-player with a cut-to-landing-area option that was in EA's golf games way back when they were called PGA Tour Golf back in the 90's (when I used to really love the series). The ball-follow-cam should not exist - period.

Anyhoo, I just can't get into this came on my XBox anymore...I did buy the Wii version last year, though, and it was great. The 1:1 swing was solid (not as awesome as I had hoped, but better than anything else out there), and if there are improvements this year, count me in on the Big N's little white wonder...But I can't get into the main console versions anymore. I think each year's titles are basically the same, and if you dig the current engine, it's all great. But if you didn't like the last 5 versions, it just seems unlikely any opinions are going to change as year-to-year variation is pretty minor...

[shaunjuan2000]

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Ever heard of the saying, "Never judge a book by it's cover." Well heres a new one. "Never judge a game by its demo"

9 days and counting til the release of this game. I got my stuff to trade in (MLB09, Heavy Rain, Tiger Woods 08, and Tiger Woods 10) , and with the extra 30% trade in credit at Gamestop, hopefully I won't spend more than $15.

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Interesting video here... toward the end Travis Sailer says "we are supporting the Sony Move on this version and I think there's going to be a bigger announcement about that coming at E3, so definitely stay tuned for that..." My read between the lines, wishful-thinking eyes interpret "bigger" as "True View"... game, set & match

http://www.italiatopgames.it/section/f.asp?id_gioco=2659&id_filmato=16606&p=6

[Seymour Scagnetti]

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Interesting video here... toward the end Travis Sailer says "we are supporting the Sony Move on this version and I think there's going to be a bigger announcement about that coming at E3, so definitely stay tuned for that..." My read between the lines, wishful-thinking eyes interpret "bigger" as "True View"... game, set & match

http://www.italiatopgames.it/section...mato=16606&p=6

Well I hope so because it should be a given that they would have Trueview if they are going to the trouble of supporting the Move for this year. With the TW franchise you never know unfortunately.

[pietasterp]

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Interesting video here... toward the end Travis Sailer says "we are supporting the Sony Move on this version and I think there's going to be a bigger announcement about that coming at E3, so definitely stay tuned for that..." My read between the lines, wishful-thinking eyes interpret "bigger" as "True View"... game, set & match

http://www.italiatopgames.it/section...mato=16606&p=6

Hmmm...my first thought is that the announcement is going to be that TW11 is going to support Natal, but we'll see...unless they already announced that?

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Well I hope so because it should be a given that they would have Trueview if they are going to the trouble of supporting the Move for this year. With the TW franchise you never know unfortunately.

The more I see from EA Sports on the newest upgrades to the motion controller swing styles for the Wii, the more I see them tying it to the "True View" experience. It would seem illogical to me for them to have such a drastic presentation mode difference from one console to another (one locked in True Aim or Presentation camera, while the other has the more dynamic True View camera), for the same fundamental interface mode.

I now think part of this "bigger" E3 announcement will likely introduce that True View will be part of the Move update. The reason it hasn't been mentioned to date is they were still working on it and getting it operational b before announcing it publicly.

[Tomba]

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Pre ordered it.
Cloth movement? I'm in!