The Show vs. 2K: MLB Grudge Match

[kgisyourfather]

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I thought we weren't supposed to compare both titles. You both should be banned haha. Anways i've played both. 2k10 is pretty good. It's a nice game. It's still way too easy to pinpoint your spots when pitching though. And like you say the fielding is horrible. The show is still the class of t he baseball genre although i get the stale thing. Still waiting for that sports game that sucks me in and doesn't let go. There is so much that can be done. It just isn't.

[Braves Fan]

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Practice doesn't make perfect. I've played hundreds of games with the Show and I have always averaged less than half a walk a game because the pitch speed is too fast for me. I'm simply not going to get better. I've accepted that. It's a VERY easy and small fix for SCEA that has a huge impact on my enjoyment of the game. Just give your pitch speed slider more weight for those of us that want to slow it down (put your sliders back to a 20 point system too).

Then use some of the other features like guess pitch to help you.

You can improve at recognizing pitches, I know because I have.

[rudyjuly2]

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Then use some of the other features like guess pitch to help you.

You can improve at recognizing pitches, I know because I have.

Guess pitch is a gimic and completely unrealistic. Nobody can sit there and guess a pitch and know 100% certain when a pitcher throws it. The fact that hitter and pitcher ratings don't matter at all means it's a gimic. I don't even want to debate that.

My point is that there are quite a few people that think the pitch speed is too fast. There isn't a simpler fix out there than making the pitch speed slider work better. If they don't want to that's fine. I just won't buy the Show anymore. I'm tired of having to deal with that issue.

[ryan36]

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I thought 2k sucked? Even post patch? That's all I see...it's great for arcade, but immersion sucks.

I guess for me, if franchise/dynasty is broken, that makes a game real hard to play.

[DJ]

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Guess pitch is a gimic and completely unrealistic. Nobody can sit there and guess a pitch and know 100% certain when a pitcher throws it. The fact that hitter and pitcher ratings don't matter at all means it's a gimic. I don't even want to debate that.

My point is that there are quite a few people that think the pitch speed is too fast. There isn't a simpler fix out there than making the pitch speed slider work better. If they don't want to that's fine. I just won't buy the Show anymore. I'm tired of having to deal with that issue.

It's weird, I think playing 2K has helped my timing in The Show. It may be placebo, but I feel like pitch speed in 10 is slower than 09. In 09 even with the slider zeroed I would struggle with timing. In 10, I'm reading pitches a lot better.

[dodgerblue]

Good review, pretty spot on imo. The show is the more realistic and solid game of the two, but mlb2k10 is more innovative. Both games are fun, but unless you dedicate a lot of time (and I mean a lot) to the show, I don't think you can succeed at it and it gets frustrating. The easier levels should be easy and the difficult levels difficult and the sliders should impact the game more than they do.

[RealmK]

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Guess pitch is a gimic and completely unrealistic. Nobody can sit there and guess a pitch and know 100% certain when a pitcher throws it. The fact that hitter and pitcher ratings don't matter at all means it's a gimic. I don't even want to debate that.

My point is that there are quite a few people that think the pitch speed is too fast. There isn't a simpler fix out there than making the pitch speed slider work better. If they don't want to that's fine. I just won't buy the Show anymore. I'm tired of having to deal with that issue.

So you'll settle for an inferior game just due to pitch speed? I don't buy it rudy. I'm not a big baseball guy and I don't have many problems getting hits in either title this year. Ratings do matter in the Show, and I think you know that. I can understand playing 2k for a different experience since you've been a Show guy for a while, but seriously its not even a contest when it comes to which game is both more polished and presents a better game of actual realistic baseball and it isn't 2k.

[HustlinOwl]

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pitch speed too fast in the show? I have it at 8!!

[rudyjuly2]

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pitch speed too fast in the show? I have it at 8!!

It's too fast for me. It may be fine for 95% of you but that doesn't matter if I'm frustrated. I'm the only one that counts when I'm playing.

So you'll settle for an inferior game just due to pitch speed? I don't buy it rudy. I'm not a big baseball guy and I don't have many problems getting hits in either title this year. Ratings do matter in the Show, and I think you know that. I can understand playing 2k for a different experience since you've been a Show guy for a while, but seriously its not even a contest when it comes to which game is both more polished and presents a better game of actual realistic baseball and it isn't 2k.

It's not just pitch speed. That was one factor. As I said, the commentary, pitching and batting angles and analog controls all make 2K10 more fun for me. I have stated many times (and I did earlier as well) that the Show is clearly more polished and is a better sim but it's stale right now for me. I'm bored with the pitching system in the Show and the fun factor just isn't there anymore.

And my comments with regards to ratings were directed soley at the guess pitch mechanic. Batter and pitcher ratings don't affect how that feature works which is why I said that. I never said batter and pitcher ratings don't matter while playing the game - only with that one feature.

Realmk, don't get so bent out of shape is someone doesn't prefer the Show. All that really matters is how you feel about a game. I've read hundreds of comments from people that prefer the Show and I'm fine with that. The fact I prefer MLB 2K10 this year is my choice and whatever reasons I have for it shouldn't bother you.

[Vipers2k9]

In total agreement with rudyjuly2 here. After playing both games this year my thoughts are this. Graphicly the award goes to MLB 10 The show. Great Graphics but that's the problem in that that is all it has Graphics. All the Fun, Anything that would keep me wanting to play the show over and over and over has all been sucked out of this game.

The pitching and batting systems are horrid at best., Camera angle makes it feel like the Pitch is right on top of you so you have no time to swing the bat or even guess at the pitch. "Push-Button" Batting is so boring and does not feel like you in the game or playing the game.

While 2k10 does not have the graphics that the show has it has everything else that makes you play it over and over everyday. The pitching makes me feel like you are on the mound instead of just controlling the player. The batting is dead on as well. It feels like you are in the box and the way you have to do the contact and power swing is like you would have to do in real life.

2K10 by far blew The show out of the war in the baseball game war this year hands down. If the show's graphics where together with 2K10's game it would all be over but the shouting.

[Braves Fan]

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Well here is the thing. If you think it's a gimic then fine, personally I don't care if it's a gimic or not. We are not major league hitters, we are playing a video game. Yes we want it to be realistic but for me being realistic means getting realistic stats, not playing the game exactly like major leaguers do. So guess pitch is a feature I use because it helps me get realistic stats. I use 1/4 guess pitch so the penalty/reward isn't as great. I think it's a good feature because major league hitters do in fact look for certain pitches in certain counts and in certain locations. Now granted they don't know 100% where it's going if they guess right and that criticism is valid but if that bothers you then use no feedback and you won't either. For me I need the help and it's enhanced the gaming experience for me. I like thinking along with a pitcher instead of just seeing ball, hit ball. I hope they never take this feature out, gimic or not.

[rudyjuly2]

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Well here is the thing. If you think it's a gimic then fine, personally I don't care if it's a gimic or not. We are not major league hitters, we are playing a video game. Yes we want it to be realistic but for me being realistic means getting realistic stats, not playing the game exactly like major leaguers do. So guess pitch is a feature I use because it helps me get realistic stats. I use 1/4 guess pitch so the penalty/reward isn't as great. I think it's a good feature because major league hitters do in fact look for certain pitches in certain counts and in certain locations. Now granted they don't know 100% where it's going if they guess right and that criticism is valid but if that bothers you then use no feedback and you won't either. For me I need the help and it's enhanced the gaming experience for me. I like thinking along with a pitcher instead of just seeing ball, hit ball. I hope they never take this feature out, gimic or not.

I understand. If it's fun for you then great. I'd rather slow the pitch speed down a little more to help me read the pitch instead. You have an option that works for you in guess pitch. I don't have an option that I like. The pitch speed slider at 0 is still a touch too fast for me and leaves me frustrated. I prefer slowing it down and reducing the contact slider to balance it out.

[Artman22]

Good write up. I agree that the commentating in the show is getting very stale. They need new commentators. Mlb2k10 is a fun game, but as the article states it still needs work especially in the fielding department. Both games have their strengths and weakness. I also agree with the show needing some new controls. Overall good write up..

[stlstudios189]

MLB 2k10 made me not throw out my 360 this year. MLB the show is still great but, my brother in law did not see enough to warrent buying the game this year as he just kept playing last years. 2k10 wins the upgrade war.

[econoodle]

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2k was more fun for me this year as well, but no injuries and errors killed it off early. i went back to the show.
I prefer 09 over 10 but ah well.

As far as tghe shows negatives? i am sure the devs know what they are:

Bland/Lame overlays/stat presentation

horrid announcing [soup and rex]

old interface

those WILL get fixed next year.