NBA Live Being Renamed NBA Elite, Scan Posted (Pasta Padre)

[NINJAK2]

Re: NBA Elite?

You say the last part like its never been done before. I use the R stick to shoot in 2K all the time and it feels completely natural and much better than a button. But that's my opinion and I realize other people don't feel the same so I agree they should have the option of buttons.

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I agree 100%. I've been using the shot stick in 2k since it arrived..

[NINJAK2]

Re: NBA Elite?

so you use the right stick for both dribbling and shooting? i can see that being a huge problem..like you might go to do a dribbling move and your guy shoots instead. I also seems like they are complicating the dribbling moves (making you move the right stick in a circle to do a behind the back, etc.)...i can see this type of system being very unresponsive and hard to control...i think there will be a lot of situations where you will be moving the stick and getting the wrong dribbling move or you have to do a motion 3 or 4 times before it actually does what you want. i liked Live 10's easy dribbling stystem where you just had to flick the stick in a certain direction to do a spin move or whatever...it was quick and easy...this new system seems like it could be cumbersome and unnecessarily complicated...sounds like a cheap gimmick that doesn't actually improve the game, but instead complicates the controls when they didn't need to be made more complicated.

I like the idea of using the right stick for shot blocking and stealing...but in regards to the dribbling, it was already excellent the way it was...this seems like it could be a step forward in some areas but a step back in others..

That could easily work Blues if they just at a modifier button to distinguish between dribbling and shots. For example, Right stick alone equals dribbling...Hold down right trigger and right stick equals shot attempt.

[Pared]

Re: NBA Elite?

That could easily work Blues if they just at a modifier button to distinguish between dribbling and shots. For example, Right stick alone equals dribbling...Hold down right trigger and right stick equals shot attempt.

I've been pimping this for years at anyone that would listen.

I gave up though.

[bonbonan]

Re: NBA Elite?

I've been pimping this for years at anyone that would listen.

I gave up though.
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[michaeljordanjr]

Re: NBA Live Being Renamed NBA Elite, Scan Posted (Pasta Padre)

Is there any doubt the first NBA game that ditches canned animations wins? I've always asked in wish lists for real-time physics, and if they made it like Backbreaker, I'm almost sold.

[michaeljordanjr]

Re: NBA Elite?

Basketball is NOT hockey, or Soccer ! its Basketball.

Exactly, Basketball depends on physics more than both of those sports!! Because you have to jump 90% of the game, your jump velocity determines your shot arc, your dunk success, your layup success, your block success...

If any game needs RT physics its Basketball. Not to mention how many collisions occur every play on ball and off ball.

[NINJAK2]

Re: NBA Live Being Renamed NBA Elite, Scan Posted (Pasta Padre)

Is there any doubt the first NBA game that ditches canned animations wins? I've always asked in wish lists for real-time physics, and if they made it like Backbreaker, I'm almost sold.

In football, devs don't have to account for a player dribbling a ball. The ball is either tucked under a player's right or left arm in football. Hoop is another beast all together with that dynamic as physics has to take into account both the player and the ball. If they can do it........I think it will be alot harder than backbreaker imo.

I don't know if others have read this but here is a cool little interview with Marcus about why he left.. http://www.pastapadre.com/2010/03/12...to-thq-for-svr

[michaeljordanjr]

Re: NBA Live Being Renamed NBA Elite, Scan Posted (Pasta Padre)

In football, devs don't have to account for a player dribbling a ball. The ball is either tucked under a player's right or left arm in football. Hoop is another beast all together with that dynamic as physics has to take into account both the player and the ball. If they can do it........I think it will be alot harder than backbreaker imo.

I don't know if others have read this but here is a cool little interview with Marcus about why he left.. http://www.pastapadre.com/2010/03/12...to-thq-for-svr

Ya I hear you, I wonder if its real-time player physics and ball or without ball, because if you have real-time shooting physics, that's going to be hard to gauge with a little analog stick.

[ehh]

Re: NBA Elite?

That could easily work Blues if they just at a modifier button to distinguish between dribbling and shots. For example, Right stick alone equals dribbling...Hold down right trigger and right stick equals shot attempt.

Would have to let the R-stick go to neutral before executing a shot though? I'm not sure that method would be seamless.

If you're mid-dribble move (the R-stick is pressed in any direction) and you hit the trigger, what happens? That could get messy.

[Admiral50]

Re: NBA Elite?

Let's WAIT until some vids, or at least some real details come through.

We don't know how extensive these so called real time physics will actually be.

You only have to think way back to the first PS1 Live game where EA said the models were V-Polys, virtual polygons or where they said for one early Live that they were using Mo-Cap but actually had drawn half the animations.

Seriously, this many pages of talk this early is not needed.

[23]

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If there was an article posted, then it is not too early to discuss. This is a message board

I dont understand that line of thinking at all

[10yard-Fight]

Had no idea Live 10 would be my last nba live purchase... Live had a nice run after the likes of lakers vs celtics, bulls vs lakers, bulls vs blazers, nba showtime... live 95- 99 were the best. 2k came along and took the title in my eyes up until last years games as far as im concerned. I thought Live 10 was a very good game, the name change will help EA's sales... but consumers shouldn't really care. I may still call it Live 11.

[Admiral50]

Re: NBA Elite?

If there was an article posted, then it is not too early to discuss. This is a message board

I dont understand that line of thinking at all

What I was mainly referring to was all the talk and speculation on the real time physics.

We don't know what engine, we don't know if it's ball only or players, we don't anything.

[23]

Re: NBA Elite?

As far as the physics I agree, its wait and see

[Dalsanto0026]

Re: NBA Live Being Renamed NBA Elite, Scan Posted (Pasta Padre)

That's because the NHL series has proven itself over the last 4 years.

There's been a ton of skepticism with this because a lot of good devs that had a focus on building a great basketball simulation left because of the direction this game was going. So I can see why people aren't as excited.

A lot of good devs? Admittedly I haven't been following the NBA Live departures as closely as others so I've only heard about Mike and Marcus leaving. Who else has left?