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  • 06woz
    Rookie
    • Feb 2009
    • 338

    #76
    Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

    Originally posted by Bama83
    No. We don't.

    Unless I miss my mark, this physics engine is obviously something that is going to start permeating all EA Sports games. Fight Night already has it. NHL is getting it. I don't know if it's in Madden/NCAA. I wouldn't be surprised to see NBA get it.

    An engine that is going to go in multiple titles is not being written by the NHL team alone. This is a massive undertaking.

    True physics engines have been in games for most of this generation. EA Sports had to know this was the future of sports games. I have to believe they have been working on their own engine for a few years. This is just the first we've heard about it.

    Im willing to wager that ELITE is the name of this engine.
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    • aBiNeR1
      Banned
      • Mar 2010
      • 31

      #77
      Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

      Originally posted by Bama83
      No. We don't.

      Unless I miss my mark, this physics engine is obviously something that is going to start permeating all EA Sports games. Fight Night already has it. NHL is getting it. I don't know if it's in Madden/NCAA. I wouldn't be surprised to see NBA get it.

      An engine that is going to go in multiple titles is not being written by the NHL team alone. This is a massive undertaking.

      True physics engines have been in games for most of this generation. EA Sports had to know this was the future of sports games. I have to believe they have been working on their own engine for a few years. This is just the first we've heard about it.

      Im willing to wager that ELITE is the name of this engine.
      Ah, so it's "shared technology" then...kinda like EA Sports Online (written for all EA Sports titles). That would explain how it's being worked on in parallel...for it is not the NHL team that is working on this.

      Curious: how is integration testing handled on the NHL side during these two years (assumed) of "side development"? When and who tests it with NHL? It certainly can't be with the NHL QA team. I'm really hoping that answer is not in the form of, "It's tested by NHL QA 3-4 months before ship". That would be a horrible answer and one the community doesn't want to hear...especially with no public beta. 3-4 months of QA (performed by $10/hr, living-at-home kids) on a brand new engine would be quite disturbing.
      Last edited by aBiNeR1; 05-28-2010, 01:42 PM.

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      • Bama83
        Banned
        • Dec 2008
        • 395

        #78
        Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

        Originally posted by aBiNeR1
        Curious: how is integration testing handled on the NHL side during these two years of "side development"? When and who tests it with NHL? It certainly can't be with the NHL QA team (which is worrysome). I'm really hoping that answer is not in the form of, "It's tested by NHL QA 3-4 months before ship". That would be a horrible answer and one the community doesn't want to hear...especially with no public beta. 3-4 months of QA on a brand new engine would be disturbing.
        That part, I can't be certain.

        I would assume they've been at this for a while. I don't know how they distribute their resources, how the engine is tailored for each game, etc.

        I doubt it's a test 3-4 months prior to shipping. Just as the NHL08 to NHL09 with the rewrite wasn't simply shipped with no forethought.

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        • aBiNeR1
          Banned
          • Mar 2010
          • 31

          #79
          Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

          Originally posted by Bama83
          That part, I can't be certain.

          I would assume they've been at this for a while. I don't know how they distribute their resources, how the engine is tailored for each game, etc.

          I doubt it's a test 3-4 months prior to shipping. Just as the NHL08 to NHL09 with the rewrite wasn't simply shipped with no forethought.
          Regarding the bolded comment, yes, that's what integration testing is for...when the physics engine code is merged with NHL's code. With the amount of games EA Sports is evidently supporting this new technology for, it's going to take a lot of QA "knowledge champions" from each team to flush out all the defects that undoubtedly has arisen and which are unique to each game they are supporting it for. Only a full regression test of all gameplay elements will reveal this...which every tester must partake in.

          Thus, if NHL's QA team two years ago was working on NHL 09 and last year they were working on NHL 10, who was testing the physics engine's integration with NHL? You can't be in two places at once right?
          Last edited by aBiNeR1; 05-28-2010, 02:12 PM.

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          • RealmK
            Banned
            • Sep 2003
            • 4198

            #80
            Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

            Oh its that time of the year already? Time for Abiner to profess he knows the inner workings at EA and knows exactly how the game is being developed all the while throwing diggs? Thought we were a month or two early for that.

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            • Scottdau
              Banned
              • Feb 2003
              • 32580

              #81
              Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

              Do we know who is on the cover yet?

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              • BlueNGold
                Hall Of Fame
                • Aug 2009
                • 21817

                #82
                Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

                Originally posted by Scottdau
                Do we know who is on the cover yet?
                No.

                They'll probably announce it sometime during the Cup Finals.
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                • Scottdau
                  Banned
                  • Feb 2003
                  • 32580

                  #83
                  Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

                  I am hoping it is a goalie.

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                  • aBiNeR1
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 31

                    #84
                    Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

                    Originally posted by RealmK
                    Oh its that time of the year already? Time for Abiner to profess he knows the inner workings at EA and knows exactly how the game is being developed all the while throwing diggs? Thought we were a month or two early for that.
                    I believe my last post was clearly a question.

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                    • Money99
                      Hall Of Fame
                      • Sep 2002
                      • 12696

                      #85
                      Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

                      Originally posted by Scottdau
                      Do we know who is on the cover yet?
                      Joe Thornton. This years feature is called "Playing from the Parameter".

                      Sorry, Scott, I couldn't resist.

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                      • RealmK
                        Banned
                        • Sep 2003
                        • 4198

                        #86
                        Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

                        Originally posted by Money99
                        Joe Thornton. This years feature is called "Playing from the Parameter".

                        Sorry, Scott, I couldn't resist.
                        Thanks for making me spit out coffee Hank. Hilarious!

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                        • Splitter77
                          MVP
                          • Mar 2003
                          • 2820

                          #87
                          Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

                          Originally posted by Money99
                          Joe Thornton. This years feature is called "Playing from the Parameter".

                          Sorry, Scott, I couldn't resist.
                          -11

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                          • Scottdau
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2003
                            • 32580

                            #88
                            Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

                            Originally posted by Money99
                            Joe Thornton. This years feature is called "Playing from the Parameter".

                            Sorry, Scott, I couldn't resist.
                            Oh I thought it was going to be Pavel Datsyuk and it was going to be the new invisible mode in the quarter finals.

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                            • Scottdau
                              Banned
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 32580

                              #89
                              Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

                              Originally posted by RealmK
                              Thanks for making me spit out coffee Hank. Hilarious!
                              History will be made!

                              Oh I thought it was going to be Rask and they were going to show the new mode of losing a 3-0.......... Oh never mind!

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                              • Scottdau
                                Banned
                                • Feb 2003
                                • 32580

                                #90
                                Re: New NHL 11 Details via OXM

                                Originally posted by Splitter77
                                -11
                                And how far did your team go?

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