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  • mgoblue678
    MVP
    • Jul 2008
    • 3371

    #61
    Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

    Looks great. Exciting to see the correct read option logic and blocking implemented in the game, especially since it's a big part of my favorite teams offense

    Hopefully offense and defense are balanced as others have said, because if they are this game could be really good. Even if they aren't, the defensive sliders could be adjusted to make it more even.

    Finally looks the next gen NCAA devs get it and are focusing on getting the fundamentals right. Wish it would have happened sooner, but still nice to see.
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    • jmik58
      Staff Writer
      • Jan 2008
      • 2401

      #62
      Originally posted by Solidice
      in one of the videos that was released about a month ago, it showed the OLB as the option guy in a 3-4 defense.
      It doesn't matter what the scheme is, the rule is that you leave the end man on the line of scrimmage (within the box).

      In a 3-4 you don't always option the outside linebacker (using the logic EA has described).

      If you run an option to the weak side (no TE) and the DT/DE is playing a "5" technique on your Offensive Tackle, then he is the end man on the line if it's a true 3-4 with the OLB playing back.

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      • longshanks
        Banned
        • Apr 2008
        • 630

        #63
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

        Originally posted by jmik58
        It doesn't matter what the scheme is, the rule is that you leave the end man on the line of scrimmage (within the box).

        In a 3-4 you don't always option the outside linebacker (using the logic EA has described).

        If you run an option to the weak side (no TE) and the DT/DE is playing a "5" technique on your Offensive Tackle, then he is the end man on the line if it's a true 3-4 with the OLB playing back.
        in that case they would still pitch off the outside backer if it was a speed option, but yeah he would read the 5 technique if no tight end, on a zone read i'm sure

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        • moylan1234
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          • Jul 2004
          • 3946

          #64
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

          Originally posted by SwampStomper90
          EDIT- Bazooka is Boston College. WR 14 is Billy Flutie, Doug's son.
          nope, Doug's nephew.

          On topic: I really liked the blog, but on that bubble screen it's clear the passing speed is still way too fast. Everyone's moving in slo mo and the ball is flying across the screen

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          • TripleCrown9
            Keep the Faith
            • May 2010
            • 23695

            #65
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

            Originally posted by moylan
            nope, Doug's nephew.

            On topic: I really liked the blog, but on that bubble screen it's clear the passing speed is still way too fast. Everyone's moving in slo mo and the ball is flying across the screen
            Oh my bad. Thanks for the correction. And yeah the pass was rediculous. It was like the Matrix or something.
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            • PantherBeast_OS
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              • Apr 2009
              • 6636

              #66
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

              Nice read. The only thing that got me in this is. In the bubble screen the WR that did the crack block prior to the QB throwing the ball didn't get called for pass interference. That was strange. But other then that. Good read.

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              • longshanks
                Banned
                • Apr 2008
                • 630

                #67
                Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

                this vid's prolly played on varsity anyway

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                • BROman
                  MVP
                  • May 2003
                  • 1107

                  #68
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

                  Originally posted by Legend Killer
                  Nice read. The only thing that got me in this is. In the bubble screen the WR that did the crack block prior to the QB throwing the ball didn't get called for pass interference. That was strange. But other then that. Good read.
                  it's behind the los, so the block is legal. also, an uncovered lineman is legal in college football.

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                  • Madwolf
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2007
                    • 1327

                    #69
                    Re: NCAA football 11 spread offense blog 05-28-10

                    Originally posted by WatsonTiger
                    Who doesn't know how to run the read option? Seriously.

                    edit: BESIDES Apex.
                    Me. Didn't know squat about how to run a spread offense until Charlie Strong came to Louisville.

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                    • Jakeness23
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                      • Aug 2009
                      • 872

                      #70
                      i dont mean to be a buzz kill cause im very much anticipating this game cause my friend and old teammate TERRY SHANKLE will be in the game this year for UNC, but did anybody see the warping? I know there will be some but it was rather noticeable. (and i know this isn't a final version, just pointing it out.) but it was noticeable on the bubble screen vid and the HB draw vid.
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                      • DrSpice
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                        • May 2010
                        • 3

                        #71
                        Originally posted by vrabbit
                        my only gripe is on that last video with oregon, wr#10 looks like he makes a magical slide to get in position to make that block

                        my only gripe so far ....
                        Totally agree with you. #10 made a huge magical slide to get into place to make that block. I wish they would get rid of these slides and warps.

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                        • LBFitted
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                          • Jul 2009
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                          #72
                          Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

                          the way i see it they will never be able to get rid of the warps and sliding. The guy is supposed to block the man, and its probably too hard to develop the AI to move @ certain speeds/angles to fake like hes doing 1 thing then go block. If he jus went to block and didnt fake, people would complain about that! Jus gotta roll with it! At the end of the day its a video game, there will be imperfections, no video game EVER has been perfect!
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                          • steelers1
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                            • Dec 2007
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                            #73
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

                            Originally posted by LBFitted
                            the way i see it they will never be able to get rid of the warps and sliding. The guy is supposed to block the man, and its probably too hard to develop the AI to move @ certain speeds/angles to fake like hes doing 1 thing then go block. If he jus went to block and didnt fake, people would complain about that! Jus gotta roll with it! At the end of the day its a video game, there will be imperfections, no video game EVER has been perfect!
                            I can't think of any imperfections with Super Mario World right off the top of my head.

                            The pass speed is a bit disappointing, though. Using some quick math the guy was throwing that ball around 50 mph. That might be ok if he was heaving a bomb or something, but for a bubble screen? That just tells me that every QB in the game is gonna be able to 'drive the ball' perfectly on those deep outs and put NFL 'zip' on all their passes. I was really hoping they'd work on this.

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                            • blackscorpion11
                              Pro
                              • Oct 2008
                              • 691

                              #74
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

                              Running animations look terrible, still skating

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                              • blackscorpion11
                                Pro
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 691

                                #75
                                Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: Offensive Styles - Spread Offense

                                Originally posted by DrSpice
                                Totally agree with you. #10 made a huge magical slide to get into place to make that block. I wish they would get rid of these slides and warps.

                                To get rid of that you'd have to re-build the gameplay engine, EA isnt willing to do that..They just keep coming up with gimmicks..last year it was adaptive A.I., this year it's locomotion and a hybrid pro-tac

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