Early Backbreaker Impressions (Pastapadre)

[malachijohn666]

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this is why we should read more than one review...

[henriw]

I don't care if people still think that t he gamplay makes the game worth it, and they believe that pasta's a tool and misleading them about how the game's problems. The BIG reason that I've had absolutely no interest in buying this game is the lack of a franchise mode. This game just reminds me of the first EA games on the 360. They had upgraded graphics from the Xbox, but they were horribly shallow experiences.

[jmood88]

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The ability to patch games has been the worst thing to EVER happen to the video game industry.
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No it's not, you either have a game that has all these issues and never gets fixed or you have the ability for the developer to fix problems that people have. With sports games especially, you're always going to have bugs that slip through and with patches the developers can focus on things that are critical to the game while still having time to fix issues that they know they won't have time to fix with the regular release cycle.

[jmood88]

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Dude come on. He posted screenshots and everything. He isn't sitting there making this stuff up. If you should be mad at anyone it should be the Dev's.

What does EA have anything to do with his review on BB. Did he mention EA once in his review? Does EA have something to do with BB's faults? I don't get it.

I know you don't like the guy, but that doesn't change the fact that his review is alarming especially with his proof.

What is he suppose to say about the game? Sugar-coat it and mislead readers?

Anyways..I agree about the patch issue. It seems every sports game I buy needs not just one but numerous patches to fix issues. I had to wait over a month to start a franchise in MLB The Show, that is ridiculous.

Hopefully NCAA football will be able to "work" right outside of the box.

And it would be different if these issues weren't things that a lot of people have brought up after playing the demo.

[CaptainZombie]

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Form your own opinions...if YOU are personally liking the game, and are finding it enjoyable and challenging, that is all that matters.

Very good point there and I think people tend to forget that games should be about fun.

[JerseySuave4]

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who's doing that? My post was the first one slamming the POV of the author lol...and this goes back to me checking out his site every once in a while for years now.

We all know the negatives of the game. I do, I've mentioned them as well. I've played the demo too! I always get sucked into debates like this because it bothers me when people turn the criticism back onto the poster. I know the game has major flaws, I also played the demo the most I've even done except maybe UFC '09's demo. I'm buying the game and playing the demo not because I want the game to be good, but because I actually like it - comprende?

Believe me, if I didn't like it and though it was worthy of a thrashing like that article I wouldn't buy the game. I don't even blame people for disliking the demo and/or game. But with him, I have a sample and pile of evidence of his lack of objectivity and just irks the hell out of me.

As I said it's all in the tone and style - compare that with games that are in the same boat or worse (for people who don't enjoy BB) with those impressions and you see a clear discrepancy in fair journalism. As someone else mentioned, you could write the same thrashing for most sports titles out there.

BUT perhaps it's not journalism at all and more like a semi-popular blogger...I should probably just ignore it, but it's hard when it gets its own threads started here on this site.

One of my biggest points of posting in this thread was the basically scream out that if you're going to take any early impressions or otherwise thread seriously - this is THE last guy to listen to/read. I can prove the agenda by breaking down articles if it has to come to that (which it won't lol...mods would lay the smack down) If you're looking to get hyped about Madden and other EA sports titles, - THIS GUY IS YOUR MAN!!!

Anyway I'll end with this. What the 6-man team at natural motion in the beginning was able to do blows me away and gives me hope for the future of sports videogames. They delivered what in their words is a truly "live action sports game". The game is so fun and dynamic because it literally has it's own butterfly affect. The plays are determined by behaviours and positions and force etc... rather than "animations". They set out to revolutionize the genre, and I believe they have at least in some substantial way. It's not just 'cool looking tackles' ...the game's randomness will make it hard to go back to anything else. Kudos to them for doing the impossible, and making a decent football game that 's (to me) a lot of fun to play. What they've accomplished already imo is quite significant. My enjoyment of the game isn't blind at all, it's pretty damn fun...my advice to you would be to actually play the game and see if you like it before defending a niche internet blogger for slamming a game you've never even played.

did i say you personally? Just look at this post which proves my point. He's just brushing it off as someone on EA's payroll that just focused on the negatives and ignored the positives. Maybe the negatives are what stood out more than the positives. And a lot of the negatives ive been hearing (not just from him) are pretty important in terms of replay factor and fun factor so with everything i keep hearing, there is not a lot that makes me want to buy this game. Ive heard way more negatives than i have positives so far. Natural Motion is great but what good is is with crappy AI, crappy camera angle, no injuries, no fatigue, no ability to change ratings, i can go on. So i'm still waiting to try out a ps3 demo before wasting my money on a game that is just going to sit there and collect dust. So since the negatives have outweighed the positives in just about everything ive seen or read, i'm not blindly throwing my faith or spending money on a game i'm not sure about.

Bleh, it's a typical Pasta Padre, on the EA paybooks, writeup and not worthy of a post on operationsports.com. Nothing but negatives and no positives. No surprise there. I can find more positives in the game just from playing the demo than Padre provided in his 'full game review'.

[SA1NT401]

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Pasta is usually pretty on point, at least for my tatse.....

The issues he brings up concerning playing against the CPU sure do echo those by most about the CPU AI, myself included.

BB was to be a 100% SINGLE PLAYER experience for me (might play onine sports games 5% here and there) but it appears that isnt going to happen.

I was hopeful that i could select hard difficulty and get by azz handed to me for a few dozen games....punish me...make me work for a win....Looks like thats not happening.

Well, cant always get waht u wish for (if ever).....Guess NCAA etc are still really the only things worth playing AGAIN this year.

But are we all really surprised that the AI is this terrible....Great physics, cool....but if the AI in term of gameplay is rubbish...Why even bother?

Very upset, my hopes were for it to be Great-ish....

SHame on me....

[steez3]

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pasta must be a natural pro at this game cuz I just popped it in and am seattle team vs the new england and they are beating me 14-0 in the first, 2 long pass plays.

[sportzhead]

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Why does Pasta get his own thread, but everybody else has to post in the impressions thread? Does OS think Pasta is more credible than the average OS poster. He's just a dude with a website. I don't get how OS can be so quick to close any thread they deem unnecessary, but give a single blogger a thread.

This post is not to discredit Pasta's impressions, he makes some valid points. But would OS give me my own thread if I get a game early and post impressions on a blog?

[MJ2320]

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Why does Pasta get his own thread, but everybody else has to post in the impressions thread? Does OS think Pasta is more credible than the average OS poster. He's just a dude with a website. I don't get how OS can be so quick to close any thread they deem unnecessary, but give a single blogger a thread.

This post is not to discredit Pasta's impressions, he makes some valid points. But would OS give me my own thread if I get a game early and post impressions on a blog?

I've got to agree, you do have a point.

[swaldo]

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SWALDO did you pick the game up yet? Are you posting in the impressions thread? I am interested to hear your take on the final release.

I am picking my copy up tomorrow.

Stuck in the house with 4 women right now (birthday party.) I'll be definately buying it this afternoon and will get some impressions going.

I'm going with the 360 version, I like the bigger controller and online will be better with Live.

Just found out the "old lady" wants to sip wine, eat grapes and watch "It's Complicated" with me on DVD tonight. Lord help me!

Also, I thought Pasta's early impressions were fair. If anything he could've talked up the technology more than he did but this is a wonky playing CPU. Seems to me the offensive output is unpredictable, I saw good offense come out of the CPU in the demo at times, but in others it was beyond horrible. In all cases there were too many sacks and INT's though.

[Methlab]

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Why does Pasta get his own thread, but everybody else has to post in the impressions thread? Does OS think Pasta is more credible than the average OS poster. He's just a dude with a website. I don't get how OS can be so quick to close any thread they deem unnecessary, but give a single blogger a thread.

This post is not to discredit Pasta's impressions, he makes some valid points. But would OS give me my own thread if I get a game early and post impressions on a blog?

That's all I was saying too.

Regardless, he had to admit that making a play in this game is extremely satisfying, I believe that online it will shine Just bought it and am popping it in soon.

[mestevo]

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I all but cried when I broke my only long run of my first game (38 yards) until that DT tackled me from behind

[roadman]

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Why does Pasta get his own thread, but everybody else has to post in the impressions thread? Does OS think Pasta is more credible than the average OS poster. He's just a dude with a website. I don't get how OS can be so quick to close any thread they deem unnecessary, but give a single blogger a thread.

This post is not to discredit Pasta's impressions, he makes some valid points. But would OS give me my own thread if I get a game early and post impressions on a blog?

If IGN or other sites would have gave an early impression, they would have been posted at OS as well.

You will see IGN's, GT, etcccc.. reviews all posted here with their own threads. It's not just Pasta.

[Romeclone]

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Just found out the "old lady" wants to sip wine, eat grapes and watch "It's Complicated" with me on DVD tonight. Lord help me!

O/T but I just split up with my wife of 12 years a few months ago. Oh God do I know all about what you just said...

So now I sit in my apartment with Backbreaker/Beer/Cubs game and just had so smile when I read that.