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  • ODogg
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    • Feb 2003
    • 37953

    #121
    Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

    Valdarez - I'm thinking EA won't make it so you're shorthanded as you describe, they are not that stupid. It'll no doubt be like this "25 coins from finishing a game = 25 coins to scout the next game" or something similar..

    splff3000 - I wasn't aware you had to start a game before you could see the scouting profile. Are you sure of that? If so, that's dumb.

    I liked the way the PS2 had it, where you could see their stats online on a PC by looking up their nickname. Then you could look up like "% of times they go for it on 4th down" and "% of plays they scramble with the QB" before you even click on their name in the lobby..
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    • Valdarez
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      • Feb 2008
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      #122
      Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

      Originally posted by ODogg
      Valdarez - I'm thinking EA won't make it so you're shorthanded as you describe, they are not that stupid. It'll no doubt be like this "25 coins from finishing a game = 25 coins to scout the next game" or something similar.
      If it's that way, then it's awesome. The whole coin / online currency thing threw me off. I think Moore must be wanting to implement something along the M$ Points thing in the EA world via the Money for Points, Points for Coins, Coins for 'consumables'. If this keeps up, we're gonna have to work up exchange rates or something to keep track of everything.
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      • Trademarq
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        • May 2010
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        #123
        Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

        Originally posted by ODogg
        splff3000 - I wasn't aware you had to start a game before you could see the scouting profile. Are you sure of that? If so, that's dumb.
        "Or you can just buy the full game purchase option before the game for just 25 coins so you can just have all the scouting before the game without having to buy every piece of information separately.

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        • ODogg
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          • Feb 2003
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          #124
          Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

          So you can buy the full game scouting report or you can buy scouting reports for different areas of the game at a discounted rate? And you can or you cannot purchase a scouting report on someone before going into a game against them? Man, this is getting confusing.
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          • Valdarez
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            • Feb 2008
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            #125
            Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

            Originally posted by ODogg
            So you can buy the full game scouting report or you can buy scouting reports for different areas of the game at a discounted rate? And you can or you cannot purchase a scouting report on someone before going into a game against them? Man, this is getting confusing.
            Per the ESPN article, it looks like you buy it while you are in the game. You can even buy mini reports based on the situation.

            EDIT: And now that I read the post 2 spots above, it looks like before. I have a feeling that just means before the game officially starts though and you won't have access to it 'outside' of the game session.
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            • ODogg
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              • Feb 2003
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              #126
              Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

              Why can't EA understand that we all want to know WHO WE ARE PLAYING *BEFORE* we play them????
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              • FootballDetails
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                • May 2008
                • 1177

                #127
                Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

                Can it even be considered scouting if it's only occurring during the game?

                Pregame scouting has to be included if the feature makes it into online franchise. You scout, then you have the option of adjusting your gameplan.

                If you can't adjust your gameplan based on scouting, then it kinda defeats the purpose.

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                • ODogg
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                  • Feb 2003
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                  #128
                  Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

                  Amen to that, it's not scouting, it's gameplan adjusting.
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                  • splff3000
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                    • Jun 2003
                    • 2867

                    #129
                    Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

                    Originally posted by Valdarez
                    I have a feeling that just means before the game officially starts though and you won't have access to it 'outside' of the game session.
                    That's the way that I read it.

                    If you all look at the pics, you buy it DURING the game. Right below the first box it says:

                    Scout Full Game, 25 Reports.
                    Balance 520 Reports

                    If you look at the time in the first pic, there is 2:38 left in the 1st qtr. All this is in game. That's why the "You Have Been Scouted!" stuff pops up.
                    Last edited by splff3000; 06-03-2010, 11:06 AM.
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                    • splff3000
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                      • Jun 2003
                      • 2867

                      #130
                      Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

                      Originally posted by Details
                      Can it even be considered scouting if it's only occurring during the game?

                      Pregame scouting has to be included if the feature makes it into online franchise. You scout, then you have the option of adjusting your gameplan.

                      If you can't adjust your gameplan based on scouting, then it kinda defeats the purpose.
                      That's what I've been saying. Now if you could change your gameplan midgame, then it wouldn't be a problem, but since you're stuck with the gameplan you go in with, the effect of scouting is very limited. As for OF, I think this should be standard for that. Imagine if you had all of this info on your opponent before you played a game against him in OF. Oh man that would be awesome!!!!
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                      • splff3000
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                        • Jun 2003
                        • 2867

                        #131
                        Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

                        But how do you unlock these scouting reports? "Madden" producer Phil Frazier provides the details: "Scouting is a consumable. So you earn coins in every online game that you play as long as you don't quit or disconnect. You can then spend these coins on scouting reports or other things within the game (gamers will also be able to use real money to buy coin packs or scouting packs, but the prices are not final). It's the same economy that drives 'Madden Ultimate Team.' So you can literally be playing 'Madden Ultimate Team' online, earn some coins, then turn around and either buy a pack of cards or a scouting pack. The economy drives a lot more this year than just 'Madden Ultimate Team, but we're not talking dollars per scouting report here. You're earning these coins by playing 'Madden' online, so this isn't a money-grab for us. This is about building up your online skills. We're trying to provide a competitive advantage and we're presenting it to you in a way that's authentic to the sport of football.'"
                        OK I just re-read the article and this whole paragraph stands out to me to me. The main thing that I am wondering about is what does he mean by "other things" within the game. What could "other things" be?

                        The second thing I'm wondering about is the last part that's in bold.

                        We're trying to provide a competitive advantage and we're presenting it to you in a way that's authentic to the sport of football.'"
                        They're saying scouting is authentic to football, but then they say it's only for online head to head games. WTH? They know it's a part of football, but they still only put it in one mode? On top of that, even though they know it's a part of football, you have to earn the right to use it lol. **sigh** I guess I shouldn't have read the article again lol.
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                        • Valdarez
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                          • Feb 2008
                          • 5075

                          #132
                          Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

                          Originally posted by splff3000
                          On top of that, even though they know it's a part of football, you have to earn the right to use it lol. **sigh** I guess I shouldn't have read the article again lol.
                          What you don't realize is that when the pats went 18-1 they simply had more coins than the other NFL teams. Pats ran out of coins in the Super Bowl, where as the Giants saved all their coins for it.

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                          • huskerwr38
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                            • Mar 2009
                            • 1549

                            #133
                            Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

                            Originally posted by splff3000
                            OK I just re-read the article and this whole paragraph stands out to me to me. The main thing that I am wondering about is what does he mean by "other things" within the game. What could "other things" be?

                            The second thing I'm wondering about is the last part that's in bold.



                            They're saying scouting is authentic to football, but then they say it's only for online head to head games. WTH? They know it's a part of football, but they still only put it in one mode? On top of that, even though they know it's a part of football, you have to earn the right to use it lol. **sigh** I guess I shouldn't have read the article again lol.
                            Is it confirmed that it's only for head to head online games? Is it at least in the online franchise mode?

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                            • ODogg
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                              • Feb 2003
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                              #134
                              Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

                              That's pretty funny. Surprising Billichek didn't have some coins counterfeited for the Super Bowl!
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                              • Hova57
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                                • Mar 2008
                                • 3754

                                #135
                                Re: Madden NFL 11 Introduces Online Scouting

                                there was a tweet from someone on here that questioned ian on it and he said they were working on getting this in for OF.

                                i hate to say it but this topic is def chat worthy. you think so too. the prospect of it is exciting its a shame you can't change your gameplan accordingly during the game though. even if you go through your playbook during the game and star or delete a star while your picking a play.

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