NBA Live Being Renamed NBA Elite, Scan Posted (Pasta Padre)

**Hassan Darkside** · 06-02-2010, 05:01 PM

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Originally posted by ODogg

For you people saying this is just a name change, was it just a name change when Triple Play became MVP Baseball? Or was it a different game that played vastly better?

Someone mentioned it in another thread but Triple Play took a year off before the name change.

**dexvex** · 06-02-2010, 07:39 PM

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"One thing I want people to understand is that we are building off of the great work that was in NBA Live 10. Most everything people liked about the game is still there. We are not starting from scratch."

People can stop bitching about a reboot

"Even for gamers who choose to use the button controls instead of the new hands-on controls, the game is so improved they will still want to experience all it has to offer."

People can now stop bitching about controls.

Wait and SEE

**Da_Czar** · 06-02-2010, 08:43 PM

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Originally posted by dexvex

"One thing I want people to understand is that we are building off of the great work that was in NBA Live 10. Most everything people liked about the game is still there. We are not starting from scratch."

People can stop bitching about a reboot

"Even for gamers who choose to use the button controls instead of the new hands-on controls, the game is so improved they will still want to experience all it has to offer."

People can now stop bitching about controls.

Wait and SEE

This doesn't really work well all the time for a discussion board. Some people have questions or different opinions Dev doesn't mean they shouldn't be able to express them or their reservations without being labeled as bitching about something. These guys are earned all the slack they get by realeasing horrible products and marketing them with glitz and fooling people into purchasing them. LOL

we can wait and see without drinking the kool aid. LOL I have enjoyed hearing both sides of the argument. Who knows our conversation could be why those questions were asked in that interview. Certainly seemed pointed toward all the issues brought up here including his history and involvement . Perfectly scripted oh I mean timed LOL just kidding don't get heat live fans !!!

**Pared** · 06-03-2010, 10:23 AM

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Originally posted by 23

If Bynum is still attempting crossovers in the new game there is a major problem.

I turned his dribble rating down to 0 in Live 10 and he still had moments where he attempted crossovers and stepbacks, just not as much as without and edited roster.

It shouldnt even be programmed for him to do stuff like that.

I'm referring to the user. If a game does not allow you to crossover with ANYONE then the game has failed.

The AI controlling the players is an entirely different discussion, and in that case I agree with you.

**Sovartus** · 06-03-2010, 10:29 AM

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Originally posted by 23

If Bynum is still attempting crossovers in the new game there is a major problem.

I turned his dribble rating down to 0 in Live 10 and he still had moments where he attempted crossovers and stepbacks, just not as much as without and edited roster.

It shouldnt even be programmed for him to do stuff like that.

I see it from a little different perspective. Bynum has the ability to do a crossover, it's just not very effective so it's not something he would try in a game. With the way things are in Elite, I doubt someone would try to do a cross with him.

**Sovartus** · 06-03-2010, 10:32 AM

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Originally posted by 23

The better question is, did a rugby guy head up the project?

Generals don't fire rifles but they do win wars.

**ehh** · 06-03-2010, 11:01 AM

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Originally posted by Sovartus

Generals don't fire rifles but they do win wars.

Damn, that's a good quote.

Never heard it before.

23 · 06-03-2010, 12:55 PM

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Originally posted by Pared

I'm referring to the user. If a game does not allow you to crossover with ANYONE then the game has failed.

The AI controlling the players is an entirely different discussion, and in that case I agree with you.

Yeah I was talking about the AI not the user

23 · 06-03-2010, 12:57 PM

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Originally posted by Sovartus

Generals don't fire rifles but they do win wars.

While's this may be true, talking about a baseball game doesn't bring any more or less comfort to the fans

**Pared** · 06-03-2010, 02:32 PM

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There are many guys who don't know bball on bball dev. teams and there are many guys who like to watch multiple sports.

NBA Jam is being made by a baseball guy.

A game is a game. If someone knows what the hell it is we want even if I have to tell them, that's all that should matter.

23 · 06-03-2010, 02:36 PM

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That's not my concern nor what I was getting at in particular. I was talking about how people continue to talk about baseball and hockey.

I could care less about that because neither of those games are NBA Live and they all have their own unique situations.

Basketball guy or not, this series has had some major issues in the past either way, so telling me about revamping triple play means absolutely zero in the scheme of Elite 11

**Pared** · 06-03-2010, 02:47 PM

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You're killing your own point though.

The series still had issues with Mike there.

It takes more than one guy. It takes a team. The team there has more going for it than I think anyone realizes. Again, we have guys back on the team from NBA Live '05.

The team is place has the capability to put it all together. If they will remains to be seen.

**Sovartus** · 06-03-2010, 02:54 PM

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Originally posted by 23

That's not my concern nor what I was getting at in particular. I was talking about how people continue to talk about baseball and hockey.

I could care less about that because neither of those games are NBA Live and they all have their own unique situations.

Basketball guy or not, this series has had some major issues in the past either way, so telling me about revamping triple play means absolutely zero in the scheme of Elite 11

Actually 23, it is an awful lot. If a person has become the leader of a particular area and that area all of the sudden becomes very successful, people point at the leader as reason for the change. If the game bombs, people will point to the leader as the reason for the failure. The fact that this guy led two different teams to two different victories says a whole lot. Person doesn't have to know anything about a particular thing to lead the team properly. It's about leadership, vision, and implementation. Where the NBA series from EA is now, is a result of what they have done in the past. But you must remember that there actually two pasts from EA basketball. There is the last five years, and then there was the 10 years before that. So the question is which past are you talking about?

I would imagine you are talking about the last five years. I will agree that it's very relevant to a degree but, a problem with that is the guys who are working on Elite 11 are from the other era.You can't blame them for the recent failures. In my humble opinion, NBA Live 10 was better than 2K in a lot of aspects of gameplay. If 2K does not address the leak, they could quickly find themselves behind.

23 · 06-03-2010, 03:00 PM

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Originally posted by Pared

You're killing your own point though.

The series still had issues with Mike there.

It takes more than one guy. It takes a team. The team there has more going for it than I think anyone realizes. Again, we have guys back on the team from NBA Live '05.

The team is place has the capability to put it all together. If they will remains to be seen.

Of course it did man, Mike coming there wasnt going to magically make Big time issues and probably old code from years ago just go away in one year.

Thats just not realistic at all, and people dont expect that this year either, so I dont get these folks who are coming down on people who are skeptical.

Its all wait and see but if they dont compete in sales with 2k this year, will they go in another new direction?

23 · 06-03-2010, 03:05 PM

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Originally posted by Sovartus

Actually 23, it is an awful lot. If a person has become the leader of a particular area and that area all of the sudden becomes very successful, people point at the leader as reason for the change. If the game bombs, people will point to the leader as the reason for the failure. The fact that this guy led two different teams to two different victories says a whole lot. Person doesn't have to know anything about a particular thing to lead the team properly. It's about leadership, vision, and implementation. Where the NBA series from EA is now, is a result of what they have done in the past. But you must remember that there actually two pasts from EA basketball. There is the last five years, and then there was the 10 years before that. So the question is which past are you talking about?

Im not questioning his leadership, and im not questioning the leadership of last years team either. If you want to put it that way, they've both been successful at their respective sports at some point

I would imagine you are talking about the last five years. I will agree that it's very relevant to a degree but, a problem with that is the guys who are working on Elite 11 are from the other era.You can't blame them for the recent failures. In my humble opinion, NBA Live 10 was better than 2K in a lot of aspects of gameplay. If 2K does not address the leak, they could quickly find themselves behind.

Can you blame last years team for the garbage that has been released over the years? Because it seems to me they took the brunt of the blame for the past failures leading up til now.

I mean honestly, after Live 07 I dont even see how things were allowed to continue on. The only way 2k ends up behind is if they get complacent, which is something we have all seen before.

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