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  • Vikes1
    Proctor, MN. Go Rails!
    • May 2008
    • 4102

    #16
    Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

    Originally posted by Jono078
    All the other EA Sports games are going more physics based this year. I think the Madden team will learn from them and then implement it into M12.
    I was just thinking the same thing Jono.

    Just to hear them mention about "branching animations" just doesn't sound right...when as you mentioned, other EA games are going the way of true physics. Hopefully Madden will have this physic engine added for next year.
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    • Tweeg
      MVP
      • Jul 2008
      • 1414

      #17
      Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

      Originally posted by Atomic Martian
      thanks man. Hmmm not really sure what to think. It was funny when ian said Jazz hands he looked like man "STFU" lol I hope the crew dosent have to re-write any more code for m12 well maybe I do, Glad to hear this from IAN though "Its all about gameplay franchise means nothing with out gameplay" I dont think thats what he said word for word ill edit when i watch it again. GAMEPLAY GAMEPLAY GAMEPLAY
      Yeah but Gameplay doesn't matter if Franchise isn't good. The two go hand in hand.
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      • xNYGx
        Banned
        • Mar 2010
        • 343

        #18
        Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

        That video blew chunks. It should've been released at least a month ago. Maybe even two months ago.

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        • tlc12576
          Banned
          • Jun 2009
          • 666

          #19
          Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

          Good post,thanks.I really like the pro-tak tackle at about 2:23.Nice to see 2 defenders bring down 1 guy,little details can combine to make a big difference.

          Good job devs!

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          • Step2001
            Pro
            • Jul 2006
            • 573

            #20
            Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

            Is Madden just a play now mode this year?

            Franchise mode is what keeps a majority of players playing this game through the year. To avoid adding or fixing anything to this mode is a boneheaded decision.

            Especially after all the posts on boards like this all over the internet.

            It's not a good sign when you see former Madden Franchise mode lead now with the title of lead on Ultimate Madden. WTF!

            Scrap that garbage and bring back HC11!

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            • Afrikan
              Banned
              • Apr 2004
              • 1462

              #21
              Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

              Granted these running animations are not good as well in the Older Maddens....they run WAY upright...but the various tackle, break tackle, catch, etc animations blend in well with each other.

              here are transition animations for Madden 07..

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              Madden 08
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              Madden 08
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              Last edited by Afrikan; 06-08-2010, 11:58 PM.

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              • zachgood
                Rookie
                • Aug 2009
                • 1

                #22
                Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

                this is old! and its on PS3 and that system is bad.

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                • ThaShark28_316
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2008
                  • 692

                  #23
                  Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

                  I just threw up in my mouth a little when i saw that madden 10 blocking at 1:30...damn I'm glad I'm done with that game.
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                  • Only1LT
                    MVP
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 3010

                    #24
                    Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

                    Originally posted by zachgood
                    this is old! and its on PS3 and that system is bad.
                    You didn't waste any time making a ridiculous post huh lol?
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                    • N@X_WiZaRD
                      Banned
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 186

                      #25
                      Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

                      Originally posted by myownsun
                      Thats old footage the entire developer series seems like it was recorded months ago.
                      Trust me, the overall look isn't going to be any different than what you just saw. We go through these optimistic-laden claims of EA apparently using old footage of their game every year, and we always get extremely similar final gameplay in the end. EA is tremendously consistent with what they show throughout their development cycle. In fact, if it's one thing that EA does well is that they are amazingly proficient at reaching their goals early in the development process (as opposed to waiting to the last second).

                      And it seems like even in these allegedly early video releases, they achieved their preferred goals in implementing locomotion and improving blocking. Like someone said earlier, it's still very awkward looking, but that's part and parcel of EA's Madden this football cycle. We're not going to get better transitions until Madden 12 at the earliest (if not Next-Gen altogether, which is more likely).

                      Unfortunately, the continued awkward transitions between animations are enough to prevent me from getting Madden 11 this year (especially now that it's becoming less and less likely that they're including a tv package presentation). But it's somewhat assuring that they've finally included effective blocking in their game this year. That should make running more rewarding.
                      Last edited by N@X_WiZaRD; 06-09-2010, 01:10 AM.

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                      • roadman
                        *ll St*r
                        • Aug 2003
                        • 26339

                        #26
                        Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

                        Originally posted by rgiles36
                        I agree with this guy. Not to say that the final product will be leaps and bounds more smooth, but that definitely resembled old footage. Not to mention that it's obvious these dev series were recorded in one sitting (unless they are injecting recent gameplay footage into the already-recorded films).
                        Yeah, your right.

                        Ian mentioned on Twitter awhile back the series took 6 hours to shoot in one setting. I've seen the Reggie Bush move since March.

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                        • CatMan72
                          Pro
                          • Apr 2009
                          • 812

                          #27
                          Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

                          I was happy to catch a glimpse of the Panthers in Madden 11, looks like they finally fixed the shoulder stripes so that they get thinner and don't extend under the arm when a player goes sleeveless!

                          I realize this is a small matter to most of you, but for a die hard Panthers fan this is a great day.

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                          • Only1LT
                            MVP
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 3010

                            #28
                            Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

                            Originally posted by Afrikan
                            Granted these running animations are not good as well in the Older Maddens....they run WAY upright...but the various tackle, break tackle, catch, etc animations blend in well with each other.

                            here are transition animations for Madden 07..

                            <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/L8gRj4lEY-Q&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/L8gRj4lEY-Q&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>


                            Madden 08
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                            Madden 08
                            <object width="480" height="385"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/-49ylowD3tg&hl=en_US&fs=1&"></param><param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"></param><param name="allowscriptaccess" value="always"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/-49ylowD3tg&hl=en_US&fs=1&" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowscriptaccess="always" allowfullscreen="true" width="480" height="385"></embed></object>
                            I know what you are trying to say and I agree with you. Not sure why the animations look so much weirder than they used to. Not that 07 and 08 were great either, but no where near as odd looking as Madden looks now.

                            The animations have improved some to be fair, and I would agree that those are probably early vidz so here's hoping that this isn't indicative of the final product.

                            One thing though. Can they please get rid of that animation where you juke a defender and the defender falls down. Ray Rice does it around the mid point of the vid (I think it was Rice anyway). It happens way too often. It feels canned and predetermined like the game decided to let you make a big play ahead of time. And it looks ridiculous. Not even Barry Sanders made people fall down all the time. I could trigger this animation at will on 10 with Brandon Jacobs for goodness sake.

                            Forget motion capturing amateurs in a studio doing prescripted actions. Can't they use footage from actual games as animations in the game? If Walt Disney and Don Bluth could trace cartoon images over cells of live action motion to make their animations more realistic in their cartoons all those many years ago, I find it hard to believe that something similar can't be done where polygons are superimposed over NFL footage.
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                            • Jkgrindz
                              Banned
                              • Apr 2010
                              • 78

                              #29
                              I wish they would show more gameplay instead of showing these lame dudes. They talk a good game but lets see it in real time action. Actions speak louder than words right? I've been burned too many times by EA so their words don't mean anything to me.

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                              • TheWatcher
                                MVP
                                • Oct 2008
                                • 3408

                                #30
                                Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

                                Originally posted by Tweeg
                                Yeah but Gameplay doesn't matter if Franchise isn't good. The two go hand in hand.
                                Only those who are really deeply into franchise modes take that view.

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