Madden NFL 11 Video: Developer Series - All About Gameplay

[Bgamer90]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

Trust me, the overall look isn't going to be any different than what you just saw. We go through these optimistic-laden claims of EA apparently using old footage of their game every year, and we always get extremely similar final gameplay in the end. EA is tremendously consistent with what they show throughout their development cycle. In fact, if it's one thing that EA does well, they are amazingly proficient at reaching their goals early in the development process (as opposed to waiting to the last second).

And it seems like even in these allegedly early video releases, they achieved their preferred goals in implementing locomotion and improving blocking. Like someone said earlier, it's still very awkward looking, but that's part and parcel of EA's Madden this year. We're not going to get better transitions until Madden 12 at the earliest (if not Next-Gen altogether, which is more likely).

Unfortunately, the continued awkward transitions between animations are enough to prevent me from getting Madden 11 this year (especially now that it's becoming less and less likely that they're including a tv package presentation). But it's somewhat assuring that they've finally included effective blocking in their game this year. That should make running more rewarding.

Well all you have to base that on is the past, and while there weren't MAJOR changes compared to the early videos in the past, there were some improvements from early videos to the final game.

This documentary series was made in March and now it's June. While I understand you thinking that things overall will be exactly the same, you really can't say that 100%. For all we know they could have been working on the way animations transition these past months.

Hate saying this since it has been said many times before but we are just going to have to wait until E3 (at least that's what I'm going to do since the build will obviously be the closest to how the final game will be).

[TreyIM2]

Granted these running animations are not good as well in the Older Maddens....they run WAY upright...but the various tackle, break tackle, catch, etc animations blend in well with each other.

here are transition animations for Madden 07..

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Madden 08
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U have a point with these vids. Wow. Didn't realize how much smoother they ran back in those days. Heck, I had Madden 08 for my PS3 well before I even had a PS3 but just that quickly, though, Madden 08 for my PS3 got traded back in for the PS2 version, which I had got for my PS2 on release day. Lol. I just couldn't stomach Madden 08 for the PS3.


Also, I was expecting more in terms of newness that was never touched on from this video. I was not enthused by it. I think NCAA 11 is going to get much of my attention, this year...but I am a NFL head more than college ball head. We'll see.

[sois]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

Only those who are really deeply into franchise modes take that view.

That's like 70% of us according to OS polls. I wouldn't take improving franchise lightly. I swear, if IR is still broken...

[Only1LT]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

That's like 70% of us according to OS polls. I wouldn't take improving franchise lightly. I swear, if IR is still broken...

Never been a franchise guy I must admit. Can't remember the last time I even played one season. Playing the computer gets pretty boring to me. I'll play some rivalry games or I might get inspired to recreate a game that I just watched earlier that was amazing, but for the most part, if I am playing the comp it's in practice mode.

Having said that, if you are actually playing the games and not simming, how could you not want gameplay to be focused on first before anything else, even as a franchise guy? I'm not a franchise guy again, but like I said, unless you are simming, I can't see franchise being worthwhile if you aren't actually enjoying playing the games.

[Bgamer90]

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Having said that, if you are actually playing the games and not simming, how could you not want gameplay to be focused on first before anything else, even as a franchise guy? I'm not a franchise guy again, but like I said, unless you are simming, I can't see franchise being worthwhile if you aren't actually enjoying playing the games.

Exactly.

[sois]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

Never been a franchise guy I must admit. Can't remember the last time I even played one season. Playing the computer gets pretty boring to me. I'll play some rivalry games or I might get inspired to recreate a game that I just watched earlier that was amazing, but for the most part, if I am playing the comp it's in practice mode.

Having said that, if you are actually playing the games and not simming, how could you not want gameplay to be focused on first before anything else, even as a franchise guy? I'm not a franchise guy again, but like I said, unless you are simming, I can't see franchise being worthwhile if you aren't actually enjoying playing the games.

OS has definitely opened my eyes to the gameplay shortcomings of Madden but roster management, team finances, player development, "test driving" rookies, becoming attached to players has always been my thing.

Building up a team is always the funnest aspect of sports gaming for me. I do love to play the games, but it is almost secondary. When I play, I try to have balanced performances and play very sim like.

I can deal with the lack of upfield rush. I can deal with some AI issues, I usuallly ask Madden (Gameflow might make this extremely awesome for me) anyway.

However, replay value only comes into play when the franchise stuff works. If I wanted gameplay, I'd go play those that shall not be named, which are great on the field, but lacking in replay value.

[tommyboii2008]

So they finally admitted the blocking problems. so i guess next year they will address the recycled animations and give it a special name and sell it for $60 and call it new..

[tlc12576]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

Never been a franchise guy I must admit. Can't remember the last time I even played one season. Playing the computer gets pretty boring to me. I'll play some rivalry games or I might get inspired to recreate a game that I just watched earlier that was amazing, but for the most part, if I am playing the comp it's in practice mode.

Having said that, if you are actually playing the games and not simming, how could you not want gameplay to be focused on first before anything else, even as a franchise guy? I'm not a franchise guy again, but like I said, unless you are simming, I can't see franchise being worthwhile if you aren't actually enjoying playing the games.

Though I get your point,like Sois said in greater detail,there is more to franchise than just gameplay.To me that statement about franchise not mattering if gameplay isnt right is a little bit of a smoke screen.There are alot of gamers who wouldnt mind if Madden 11 had gameplay like Madden 10 and just upgraded all the non-gameplay stuff for franchise.That's a little extreme for a balanced game but Im making a point.Gameplay being the most important element to a game goes without saying but that's not a good reason to improve other areas as well.

I will not buy into the "all the time had to be focused on gameplay" arguement either if NCAA Football 11 has all of Madden 11s' gameplay upgrades.If they spent time implementing the same gameplay upgrades and improved Dynasty,I will not understand why Madden 11 couldnt improve franchise.

[cowboykmoney]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Gameplay Changes Exposed - IGN Vid

Only those who are really deeply into franchise modes take that view.

ell Im a firm believer of that myself, Because it has to be fixed in order for them to turn the corner for madden to start to become great.

[khaliib]

All I got to say is that the bar for Madden has always been 2k5 up until now, but the new "Other Game" with it's flaws has raised the bar very high. Also, it used to be NCAA was the little sister to Madden, but they seem to be passing Madden also as far as new and fresh. If half of the nitches in the "Other Game" are tweaked or fixed, there is going to be problems. The days of Madden taken "Baby Steps" and trying to pass such stuff off as new has reached the cliff.

Remember how Live used to be "The" game, but allowed another game developer to swoop in and take their crown.

As good as Fifa is, PES is on their heels.

It seems that gamers are no longer interested in "Inclusion" but "Innovation in sports games.

[cowboykmoney]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Developer Series - Gameplay Changes Exposed

Well only E3 will tell the whole story we all look for in Madden 11 this year...

[J Masta J]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Developer Series - Gameplay Changes Exposed

I really don't get why they released this video NOW, of all times. E3 is less than a week away. All of this footage is MONTHS old and all the info has been known for quite some time. Heck, we've even had in depth blogs about these issues...

I really hope Ian's comment that Gameplay trumps all was not some sort of attempt to justify coming deficiencies in franchise mode...but with the lack of any info whatsoever, it wouldn't surprise me. Gameplay is important, but as someone mentioned before, the franchise elements are what give the games replay value.

[PantherBeast_OS]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Developer Series - Gameplay Changes Exposed

I really think it's coming along very good. Some people seem to be not happy. But who is ever happy with everything. But holding judgement until after next week.

[tooldude79]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Developer Series - Gameplay Changes Exposed

attempt to justify coming deficiencies in franchise mode...but with the lack of any info whatsoever, it wouldn't surprise me. .

this is what concerned me as well. i think it is safe to say that if we dont hear about any franchise info before the game comes out then they probably didnt do much to improve on it. i really hope this wont be the case, and they are just waiting to release the franchise info closer to 8/10...my purchase is hanging in the balance

[J Masta J]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Developer Series - Gameplay Changes Exposed

this is what concerned me as well. i think it is safe to say that if we dont hear about any franchise info before the game comes out then they probably didnt do much to improve on it. i really hope this wont be the case, and they are just waiting to release the franchise info closer to 8/10...my purchase is hanging in the balance

exactamundo, my friend.