Madden NFL 11 Video: Developer Series - All About Gameplay

[charter04]

It is old gameplay footage, the Cowboys (Marion Barber) run was the same from the first Dev Series video. Might not be any better now, but it is deffenately old game play footage. I am more exited about NCAA 11, but Madden still looks really good to this point. Blocking AI and locamotion is huge! Hope the Franchise mode is much more indepth this year. Haven't heard much about it. I play offline franchise 90% of the time so it needs to be more like Madden 05's franchise mode. Loved change prices for food and parking. It made you feel more like an owner. Even though the logic didn't make much sence sometimes, I also loved the players mood changing. Making comments about wanting to be trading or not having enough playing time. Why oh why have they not been able to include that in the next gen games! Am I the only one who loved that stuff. It gave so much more life to a franchise.

[bucky60]

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EDIT: Think I put this in the wrong thread

Exclusive Rights deal.

It was a great business decision by EA, but terrible for NFL Video games. This gave EA the time to move from Last Gen to Next Gen, maximizing profit, by minimizing expenses while moving to the Next Gen. People still bought it because it was the only NFL game in town. EA didn't need to put in the resources it would take to innovate. They didn't need to. The sales would still be there w/o it.

I don't blame the Dev team, I blame the decision making at EA for NFL video football taking over half a decade step backwards.

With competition (w/i the exclusive rights), we would have seen a much better NFL Video game from either EA or some other publisher.

[bucky60]

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Loved change prices for food and parking. It made you feel more like an owner. Even though the logic didn't make much sence sometimes, I also loved the players mood changing. Making comments about wanting to be trading or not having enough playing time. Why oh why have they not been able to include that in the next gen games! Am I the only one who loved that stuff. It gave so much more life to a franchise.

The MLB 2005 series had a much better implementation of setting prices and expenses. If Madden did something more like MLB 2005, I would be into it.

For me, better (more accurate) roster management would be the thing. True IR, 80 man rosters with cut downs to a 53 man roster, with a scout team.

There are a lot of other GM/Franchise features, but I'm not going to list everything.

[stux]

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at 3:10 Ian sums up what EA's focus has been in 09, 10, and apparently 11?:

Ian:

"If gameplay is not there then it doesn't what else you do. It does matter what your presentation is, it doesn't matter what you franchise mode is if you gameplay is not there. So, um having core blocking and locomotion like major rewrites in those areas; I can't think of any better way spend out resources and time."

Third year and gameplay may be where EA wants it?

What about everything else?

[TheWatcher]

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That's like 70% of us according to OS polls. I wouldn't take improving franchise lightly. I swear, if IR is still broken...

I'm not aware of that particular poll, but regardless that's just OS. OS is very influential but represents a tiny, tiny, tiiiiiiiny group of hardcore players compared to the overall Madden fanbase of millions who are very casual players who buy this game and plays franchise once if at all, and spends the rest of their time playing in Play Now or against friends. I totally understand the passion of those who are into franchise, but they tend to think they represent a much larger group than they actually do.

Having said that, if you are actually playing the games and not simming, how could you not want gameplay to be focused on first before anything else, even as a franchise guy? I'm not a franchise guy again, but like I said, unless you are simming, I can't see franchise being worthwhile if you aren't actually enjoying playing the games.

This is the part that leaves me scratching my head as well. I don't know how franchise modes can be looked at as more important than actually playing the game on the field. That boggles my mind.

ell Im a firm believer of that myself, Because it has to be fixed in order for them to turn the corner for madden to start to become great.

But franchise heads represent the minority. Madden doesn't make its money on franchise mode, it makes it on graphics, features and strong marketing. If franchise were their bread and butter they would've never been able to get by with it being so broken and feature-lacking as people say it's been all generation.

[TheWatcher]

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However, replay value only comes into play when the franchise stuff works. If I wanted gameplay, I'd go play those that shall not be named, which are great on the field, but lacking in replay value.

That's how a franchise guy would define it. However, replay value is not defined the same for everyone. My personal view of replay value has to do with whether or not the experience of actually playing the game on the field is fun and makes me want to come back for more.

[bucky60]

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But franchise heads represent the minority. Madden doesn't make its money on franchise mode, it makes it on graphics, features and strong marketing. If franchise were their bread and butter they would've never been able to get by with it being so broken and feature-lacking as people say it's been all generation.

EA's view of things would have probably been different if it had competition from other publishers.

[sois]

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I'm not aware of that particular poll, but regardless that's just OS. OS is very influential but represents a tiny, tiny, tiiiiiiiny group of hardcore players compared to the overall Madden fanbase of millions who are very casual players who buy this game and plays franchise once if at all, and spends the rest of their time playing in Play Now or against friends. I totally understand the passion of those who are into franchise, but they tend to think they represent a much larger group than they actually do.

Do you have any research to back this up? OS is small but they at least run polls and collect data. Kotaku reported that people do not play online very much. It seems people might be playing offline franchise. I know that is the #1 reason I loved Madden.

[Exonerated]

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Do you have any research to back this up? OS is small but they at least run polls and collect data. Kotaku reported that people do not play online very much. It seems people might be playing offline franchise. I know that is the #1 reason I loved Madden.

lol. Except they do.

[stux]

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I'm not aware of that particular poll, but regardless that's just OS. OS is very influential but represents a tiny, tiny, tiiiiiiiny group of hardcore players compared to the overall Madden fanbase of millions who are very casual players who buy this game and plays franchise once if at all, and spends the rest of their time playing in Play Now or against friends. I totally understand the passion of those who are into franchise, but they tend to think they represent a much larger group than they actually do.



This is the part that leaves me scratching my head as well. I don't know how franchise modes can be looked at as more important than actually playing the game on the field. That boggles my mind.



But franchise heads represent the minority. Madden doesn't make its money on franchise mode, it makes it on graphics, features and strong marketing. If franchise were their bread and butter they would've never been able to get by with it being so broken and feature-lacking as people say it's been all generation.

The only reason anyone I ever knew played madded was Franchise Mode offline. LONG LONG LONG before I ever knew about these forums I was happy in my own little world playing my Franchise.

The only reason I ever got involved with this crap was because offline franchise mode went to crap.

You have it ALL wrong. Most of the people that were involved with these sites where either online players OR tourney guys. THAT is where these sites came from.

Not from OFFLINE players. Remember they are OFFLINE players.

They aren't going to come to some site like this, they play the game OFFLINE.

My friends, family, my age and younger play offline franchise mode the majority of the time. Some of them play online at times as well but their focus is offline franchise mode. They aren't going to come to a site like this and post about what they feel would be meaning less crap. The buy then like it or don't. If they don't they stop buying. They don't come to a site and try and change it, they just stop buying it.

[TheWatcher]

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Do you have any research to back this up? OS is small but they at least run polls and collect data. Kotaku reported that people do not play online very much. It seems people might be playing offline franchise. I know that is the #1 reason I loved Madden.

You can't look at a poll from one site and apply it to the whole. If anything, the polls collected here should be looked at as what the more hardcore fanbase thinks and that only, because that's what this site largely represents. Most people who buy this game never come online to talk about it.

As for research, EA collects that. And from it I've been told several things: hundreds of thousands of people sign in to play Madden online once and never come back again, the casual player is what's keeping their lights on, and specific market research tells them what feature expectations are driving their sales, and franchise is not at the top of that list. But I wouldn't have needed them to tell me that, all I have to do is look at how they've marketed this game. It's pretty obvious that offline franchise hasn't been a major focus of the last 5 games as their other features have been.

[Exonerated]

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Are you high? The only reason anyone I ever knew played madded was Franchise Mode offline. LONG LONG LONG before I ever knew about these forums I was happy in my own little world playing my Franchise.

The only reason I ever got involved with this crap was because offline franchise mode went to crap.

You have it ALL wrong. Most of the people that were involved with these sites where either online players OR tourney guys. THAT is where these sites came from.

Not from OFFLINE players. Remember they are OFFLINE players.

They aren't going to come to some site like this, they play the game OFFLINE.

I have a pertinent theory that OFFLINE players are more likely to frequent forums. This is because the OFFLINE player cares about the intricacies of the game and really wants to discuss it with someone or lobby for change. For that reason, most of OS is OFFLINE players.

[charter04]

The MLB 2005 series had a much better implementation of setting prices and expenses. If Madden did something more like MLB 2005, I would be into it.

For me, better (more accurate) roster management would be the thing. True IR, 80 man rosters with cut downs to a 53 man roster, with a scout team.

There are a lot of other GM/Franchise features, but I'm not going to list everything.

I agree with that. I just didn't want to name everything I wanted in franchise mode.

[beastwork]

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I used to play offline on the xbox. it bores me to tears on PS3. with M10 was strictly online

[Spanky]

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Good to see they finally got the Browns' brown pants in there.