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  • Dr Death
    Air Raid
    • May 2009
    • 1632

    #1

    Saving The Big XII...

    With the latest rumors of Texas/Texas A&M heading north to the Big 10, and Colorado/Nebraska already gone, I've been thinking of how the Big XII can save itself. Keep in mind, while football is dominating this shake-up, basketball is pretty big in the Big XII as well.

    That said, assuming the four teams mentioned leave, here is who I would invite to join the Big XII. Now keep in mind, they can't replace Texas and/or Nebraska. But, with an eye to the future, I think adding these four teams could potentially stabilize the Big XII and set it up to be even stronger within 5 years.

    First and foremost, they need to get on the horn to Boise State. I know, it doesn't make geographical sense, but neither does Texas in the Big 10. Boise State is one of two teams that can be considered a power now that might be available. Notre Dame being the other, and knowing ND's penchant for independence, I don't see them joining.

    I know as well that Boise doesn't have a great tradition, but the youth today don't care what a team did in the 70's or 80's... they care about now. And lately, Boise State has been darn good. Boise could step in and replace Nebraska and... they'd be much more exciting to watch as they can actually put points on the board.

    In the wide open Big XII it seems lately that the Huskers just don't fit. Perhaps the Big 10 will serve them well, but Boise would be a welcome addition. They've won a lot lately and they can play offense.

    Second team... TCU. Another team that doesn't have a rich tradition, however lately, they have been very good. TCU made a goal several years ago to establish their football team and they've followed through very nicely. They would step in and immediately be as good, and probably better, than Texas A&M.

    The next two teams will be controversial, but at least hear me out. Houston... they would fit in the Big XII with their spread offense and they've had decent success lately. I believe they would be better than Colorado has been lately and may be as good as Texas Tech was during the Mike Leach era... which means... 8-9 wins per year and a bowl game every season.

    And finally... SMU. Yes, I am aware of how bad their football program has been since the Death Penalty. But... they now have June Jones. Jones took over a Hawaii team that was on the brink of dissolving their football program altogether and with-in 9 seasons had them in a BCS Bowl Game. They were 0-12 the year before he arrived and 9-4 his first season there. And in Hawaii, he had a measly $50,000 a year recruiting budget. Now, he's in Texas... where football players of high caliber are literally falling off trees and he's in a big city too, Dallas.

    His second year at SMU they went 8-5 and won their bowl game in which they were heavy underdogs. Give Jones a few more years in Texas and the 4 and 5 star recruits are going to start lining up.

    These moves would not make the Big XII as strong as it was a week ago, but give them 5 years and they might be a very strong conference again.

    Big XII - North

    Boise State
    Iowa State
    Kansas
    Kansas State
    Missouri
    TCU

    Big XII - South

    Baylor
    Houston
    Oklahoma
    Oklahoma State
    SMU
    Texas Tech

    All of this of course is dependent on if the Big XII actually wants to survive. But if they do, I think that these teams would make the most sense. I don't see anyway they could land a Notre Dame and after them, who's left? Boise and TCU would be the two best teams that may be available and Houston and SMU would fit in with their offenses and I believe Jones will get SMU to being a solid team, year in, year out.

    I am just trying to stimulate some conversation and ideas, no need for anyone to say how stupid this idea is or that idea is... a few years ago nobody would have predicted Texas in the Big 10. So... thoughts, anyone?
    Dr Death
    Air Raid

  • legendkiller5
    The Lord of #Hashtags
    • Jun 2008
    • 7731

    #2
    Re: Saving The Big XII...

    T-Magic, is that you?
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    • RaychelSnr
      Executive Editor
      • Jan 2007
      • 4845

      #3
      Re: Saving The Big XII...

      Considering you are basing your scenario on Texas and A&M going to the Big Ten, that was enough to stop reading right there....because that scenario isn't going to happen
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      • hazelhood19
        Rookie
        • Apr 2009
        • 396

        #4
        Re: Saving The Big XII...

        Yeah, no chance that Texas and Texas A&M go to the Big 10. Not going to happen.

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        • Dr Death
          Air Raid
          • May 2009
          • 1632

          #5
          Re: Saving The Big XII...

          Originally posted by hazelhood19
          Yeah, no chance that Texas and Texas A&M go to the Big 10. Not going to happen.
          Well, it's been reported on KCTV 5 that that's exactly what is going to happen. Rumors, I know. But rumors do have a way of coming to fruition. They are also saying Oklahoma is going to petition the SEC to get them in... it keeps getting crazier by the minute...

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          • legendkiller5
            The Lord of #Hashtags
            • Jun 2008
            • 7731

            #6
            Re: Saving The Big XII...

            I believe someone posted that there is no truth to that rumor.
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            • RaychelSnr
              Executive Editor
              • Jan 2007
              • 4845

              #7
              Re: Saving The Big XII...

              Originally posted by Dr Death
              Well, it's been reported on KCTV 5 that that's exactly what is going to happen. Rumors, I know. But rumors do have a way of coming to fruition. They are also saying Oklahoma is going to petition the SEC to get them in... it keeps getting crazier by the minute...

              http://www.kctv5.com/sports/index.html
              KCTV 5's report is 100% wrong in every way. They are kind of ummmmm....well let's just say they're not a station anyone who is worth anything ever goes to work at.

              1)Texas A&M is considering the SEC or Pac 10, that report is really the only one that's ever mentioned A&M to the Big Ten.

              2)Texas is going to the Pac 10. Oklahoma has stated publically they are going where Texas goes. And I can tell you neither OU going to the SEC or Texas to the Big Ten are in the cards from the people I know in both athletic departments.

              3)Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are just happy to be going with Oklahoma and Texas, they're in the limo getting the party ready for the drive east.
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              • Dr Death
                Air Raid
                • May 2009
                • 1632

                #8
                Re: Saving The Big XII...

                Originally posted by MMChrisS
                KCTV 5's report is 100% wrong in every way. They are kind of ummmmm....well let's just say they're not a station anyone who is worth anything ever goes to work at.

                1)Texas A&M is considering the SEC or Pac 10, that report is really the only one that's ever mentioned A&M to the Big Ten.

                2)Texas is going to the Pac 10. Oklahoma has stated publically they are going where Texas goes. And I can tell you neither OU going to the SEC or Texas to the Big Ten are in the cards from the people I know in both athletic departments.

                3)Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are just happy to be going with Oklahoma and Texas, they're in the limo getting the party ready for the drive east.
                I've also seen it out of a station in Dallas. So I'm just going with what's being reported. I understand where you're coming from and the sources you have. Like I said, I'm just trying to stimulate some conversation. I am one who does not want to see the Big XII fall apart...
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                • adice15
                  MVP
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2161

                  #9
                  Re: Saving The Big XII...

                  Tulsa is way better than smu at athletics, id think theyd give them an offer.
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                  • RaychelSnr
                    Executive Editor
                    • Jan 2007
                    • 4845

                    #10
                    Re: Saving The Big XII...

                    Originally posted by Dr Death
                    I've also seen it out of a station in Dallas. So I'm just going with what's being reported. I understand where you're coming from and the sources you have. Like I said, I'm just trying to stimulate some conversation. I am one who does not want to see the Big XII fall apart...
                    I understand, but the Big XII is done. Oklahoma, Texas, Texas Tech, and Okie State are all heading to the Pac 10. A&M will probably wise up soon and join them too.

                    None of the teams you could replace Nebraska and Colorado with would remotely approach them in value cumulatively because Nebraska alone is worth more than anyone you could replace them with. That's why the conference is falling apart because Nebraska is gone -- at least that's the story being told. I think the conference is falling apart simply because everyone in the group leaving to the Pac 10 realized the grass was greener elsewhere money wise and they're just using Nebraska as the scapegoat.

                    There was initial talk a month or so ago about replacing Mizzou and Colorado (if they were the only two that left) with Air Force and BYU, which I think would've worked and possibly worked quite well. However, without Nebraska in the North, the conference can't make enough money to compete with the better deal 6 teams are going to get in the Pac 10.
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                    • khaled
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 942

                      #11
                      Re: Saving The Big XII...

                      Texas, Tech, OU and OSU are all on board to go to the Pac-10. A&M is going to take a few more days to decide between SEC or Pac-10. The Big 12 is done. The remaining teams (BU, KU, KSU, maybe Mizz or ISU) will go into the MWC and add Boise State with others = Automatic bid.
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                      • BoomerSooner11
                        MVP
                        • Jun 2008
                        • 2203

                        #12
                        Re: Saving The Big XII...

                        I'm so ready for this all to be over, I'm tired of hearing about it. At the beginning of this week I was interested in a possible conference realignment..now it's annoying.
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                        • Watson
                          Burrow Club
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 27013

                          #13
                          Re: Saving The Big XII...

                          That's a lot of Color.
                          And may thy spirit live in us, Forever LSU

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                          • UnStOpPaBlE
                            Pro
                            • Jan 2009
                            • 129

                            #14
                            Re: Saving The Big XII...

                            Originally posted by MMChrisS
                            KCTV 5's report is 100% wrong in every way. They are kind of ummmmm....well let's just say they're not a station anyone who is worth anything ever goes to work at.

                            1)Texas A&M is considering the SEC or Pac 10, that report is really the only one that's ever mentioned A&M to the Big Ten.

                            2)Texas is going to the Pac 10. Oklahoma has stated publically they are going where Texas goes. And I can tell you neither OU going to the SEC or Texas to the Big Ten are in the cards from the people I know in both athletic departments.

                            3)Oklahoma State and Texas Tech are just happy to be going with Oklahoma and Texas, they're in the limo getting the party ready for the drive east.
                            You mean west, right?
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                            • Husker88Chief
                              Rookie
                              • May 2010
                              • 220

                              #15
                              Re: Saving The Big XII...

                              There're a lot of holes in this.

                              1st off, if Texas leaves, you'd better believe that Tech is hopping along on with them.

                              Also, Oklahoma and Oklahoma State are leaving if Texas does. Maybe they go with, maybe they go to the SEC, but they won't hang around to see this conference sag.

                              Third, this conference will not be better than ever. Once my first two points take effect this is a souped-up CUSA or a lackluster Mountain West.

                              I think Boise and TCU would much rather ride the Mountain West's laurels to the BCS than take a chance with something on shaky ground like this.
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