Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

[ZoneKIller]

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I am 29 years old.I grew up with Madden NFL Football.Every year its like Christmas in August.Father used to buy the game and now I buy it.But this year there will be no Christmas in August for me.

Without Franchise improvements I will skip Madden Football for the first time in my life.
That being said I am now going to the NCAA Thread.

Later
and thanks EA for ruining my August Christmas

[splff3000]

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Well, like I said before and was of course attacked and called a liar for stating this fact (what's new?)... franchise is not one of their top market targets (money-makers) and hasn't been all generation, if not longer. I was told what their top money-makers are by an EA official, and franchise is not one of them. They're not basing their decisions to make franchise upgrades just on some website polls from sites that would attract hardcore franchise players. It doesn't work that way. They have structured systems and procedures in place to collect data from a number of sources offline and on, and they determine what's going to get the top and/or back-of-the-box heavily marketed feature attention, based on that data.

After 5 years, really, none of this should come as a shock. If anything, online franchise in Madden 10 was more than likely a big reach for them, they looked at the data from that, and probably decided against doing any major moves there either, hence the message they've put out.

Thing is, this is not going to phase them a bit. Madden 11 will outsell Madden 10 and not miss a beat in the sales department, you can bet on that.

Ok, this is what I wanted to say the last time you brought this up, How do they know it's not a big money maker? They don't track franchise play. They can't. There are people all over the country that don't have their 360 or PS3 hooked up to the internet. Also, EA has already admitted that an estimated 350,000 people got online once and never came back. http://kotaku.com/5524782/a-number-that-is-too-large What mode do they think those 350,000 people are playing? This isn't even counting the people that don't bother to go online at all or don't have an internet connection.

Yes, I believe that EA reps told you that franchise isn't the biggest deal, but I also believe that those EA reps are full of it for telling you that. Everyone that buys Madden has access to franchise right out of the box. They don't need internet or anything. They can just play franchise. Everyone doesn't have access to online though. I find it highly highly unlikely that Franchise isn't the biggest mode in Madden, regardless of what they told you. It doesn't make sense at all. It's like saying Fifa isn't the biggest selling franchise for EA sports even though soccer is the most popular sport in the world. I know absolutely no one, and I mean no one, that I have ever met in my LIFE, and I'm 31 years old, that don't at least try franchise mode every year in Madden. Some like it and keep going some don't, but they all at least try it out once. Now I do know some that have 360's and Ps3's that don't even have their consoles hooked up to the internet, so what is EA talking about? BS, that's what.

As for online franchise, what did they expect? They put a shell of a franchise mode out there and call it online franchise. Did they still expect people to play it. It had no resemblance whatsoever to franchise mode other than the fact that users controlled the teams. That's all. Not too mention that they made slow speed mandatory for online games, even in online franchise. I was in an online franchise when they did that and played 2 games after that and dropped out. I can not stand to play on slow speed and they gave us no choice. So let's see, they put a shell of a franchise mode out there, so that lost some people and they made us play on slow, so that lost some people like me that hate playing on slow. What in the hell did they think was gonna happen? On the flip side, look at NCAA's Online Dynasty. From day one they had just about every feature that offline dynasty had and it has been thriving since day one. Online Franchise would be thriving as well If it was fully functional and they let people choose their own game speed for it.

So let's recap, EA says offline franchise isn't a big money maker and no one was playing online franchise. So what the hell was everyone playing? I know I never saw 1 million people online at any time. In fact, I never saw more than 1000 online. So if no one is playing offline franchise what are they playing? It doesn't make sense what you and they are saying. It doesn't make sense at all. Anyway, I'll move on to the blog.

As for the blog, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they supposedly work on franchise stats last year. If I remember correctly they said they wanted to get the basics down for franchise before adding on to it. So now, a year later, they are working on stats again? In another thread, djordan said something isn't right about this year and I'm starting to believe him. They wanted to focus on gameplay they say. That's why they aren't updating the franchise mode. Well I haven't seen a blog on DL/OL interaction, O-line pass blocking, CB/WR interaction, ball trajectory on passes, different defensive schemes, or anything like that. I'm sure these could've been worked on while they were skipping on franchise. Oh wait a minute, how many times have we been told that they have someone in each department working on stuff. So what have the franchise guys been doing all this time. What has Josh Looman been doing? Anyway, I don't buy this one bit. Any of it. On top of all this, I bet when we see vids, it looks just like Madden 10 lol. It sure has looked like it from the vids I've seen so far.

Anyway, I guess my decision has been made. I was debating whether to get NCAA or Madden this year, but I guess it's settled now. I guess I'll go ahead and preorder NCAA. The only way Madden could keep me is if, when the vids came out, it looked amazing and judging, from the early vids, it will be nowhere near amazing for me. **sigh** Someone, anyone, please end this NFL exclusive license!!! I'm not one to call for things like this, but this is ridiculous.

Btw, I have to give EA credit for being honest this year. In years past, we wouldn't have heard about this until 2 days afte rthe game came out when people where complaining about it so I will definitely give them credit for that. That's all I will give them credit for though. **sigh** Sony, 2K, Activision, Konami, someone PLEASE SAVE US!!!!!!!

[MrSkagTrendy]

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On the plus side, at least locomotion, presentation and gameplay will be awesome!

[jethrobag]

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I think the point about the upcoming CBA is a good one. I am sure that the structure of the salary cap, franchise tags, and generally the way the offseason is going to work with a new CBA is a valid argument as to why the devs didn't want to reinvent the wheel with regard to franchise mode just yet. It still makes me sad, but I hope they have some other features not yet revealed that will entice me to buy this years game.

[NYYankees42]

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I give props to madden for at least being truthfull and not overhyping minor franchise upgrades. This way franchise people dont waste $60.

[chibears77]

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THIS is straight garbage. if the bugs are not fix on this game im not buy madden 11 period.
to not make major improvement on offline franchise is pure crap.
and now i'm 100 percent sure there big announcement is going be online team play. who here really cares about that. that's a casual players dream not mines

I am officially pissed

[joshmadden2013]

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On the plus side, at least locomotion, presentation and gameplay will be awesome!

they need real time physics, we should really push for that in 2012

[splff3000]

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I think the point about the upcoming CBA is a good one. I am sure that the structure of the salary cap, franchise tags, and generally the way the offseason is going to work with a new CBA is a valid argument as to why the devs didn't want to reinvent the wheel with regard to franchise mode just yet. It still makes me sad, but I hope they have some other features not yet revealed that will entice me to buy this years game.

Yeah, but if there is a lockout next year, which is a very good possibility, that stuff still won't be in place, so all the stuff about waiting for the CBA is BS. If they were really were waiting for the CBA, they should've said that franchise will be update for 2013 because that is the year that everything will be finally settled as far as Madden goes.

[Flamehead]

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So where are all the people who said the reason we weren't hearing about franchise mode was because they were waiting until E3 to give us all this great info?

This is EXACTLY what others of us have been trying to tell you: we weren't hearing anything because other than a few tweaks, nothing was being done. THAT's why we weren't hearing anything. Blind faith is not always a good thing. Make them earn your faith first.

That being said, EA has now given you documented reason to hope for Madden '12. But even then, please be careful with your expectations.

Props to EA for being honest though. I only hope that with '12 being over a year away, they aren't saying this for now, and hoping we forget about it later. I might have to save the URL for that blog, copy and paste it somewhere for future reference, etc.

But in the same of everything sacred, please just get the franchise stats correct this year. They may not be giving us much new, but EA, please QA the hell out of that mode for this year, AT LEAST!

[BooShay]

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Well see everybody same time next year?

[CYST2000]

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Wow! We get the truth for a change, and in all I can honestly say that I will not be getting this game now. Last year the Franchise mode was as slim as NBA Live 10, and after the second patch it was even worse than before. Now there won't be a reason to play this over last years game. IMO. So I will wait for Madden 2012, or something else.

[Gosens6]

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Well, this will be the first year that I officially don't purchase Madden. Inside that makes me a bit upset, but, I just can't do without a good franchise mode. Hopefully NCAA delivers with it's Dynasty

[FootballDetails]

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It's just so disappointing to wait a year for Franchise Mode to take the next big step only to find out you have to wait another year.

I understand the logic behind the delay. It's probably a wise choice in the long run. However, this perfectly illustrates how the NFL exclusivity deal punishes the fans.

[LionsFanNJ]

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Oh well at least they're upfront about it which is good. I know what to expect going in.
I don't have too much of a problem with franchise, though i would LOVE it being deeper. At least the NCAA classes will be tuned, to what extent who knows. Still, its a real downer but it is what it is. I knew i'd be playing NCAA more this year than Madden anyway.

[SteelerSpartan]

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Im not going to get real mad yet.....I want to see all these gameplay improvements in action.....They better be noticeable and great additions because thats what they're saying is carrying the game this year


But man Im tired of this mentality from EA that its "either/or".......Your freaking EA, one of the most powerful game companies there are.....we really should be getting both upgrades