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  • kmart2180
    Pro
    • Jul 2006
    • 892

    #301
    Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

    BitterSweet!!!

    The word pretty much sums up this news IMO. I love the fact that they are gonna re-write the code for franchise and (hopefully) blow us away with something Amazing.

    Terribly pissed that nothing has been done for us franchisers this year. I mean seriously isn't there a team (josh Looman) specifically hired for fixing franchise? Did he get the year off this year? They state that online franchise wasn't a big hit...........could it be cause it was half @$$ed to begin with? Why would people wanna play it?

    Why do they add a new feature/mode every year just to give up on it the next year?

    Don't get me wrong I have and probably always will buy Madden cause I love the NFL and its worth $60 bucks to me. And I appreciate all that they have done this year especially gameplay wise seeing that is the most important part of the game IMO. But this new does hurt

    And the " give us info on how to make franchise better" is kinda a slap in the face. If there is not Over 1000 threads with over 1,000,000 post on Ideas for Franchise on this site alone.

    EA the info has has been out there for atleast 5-6 yrs now. Its as simple as hitting the search button.
    Last edited by kmart2180; 06-12-2010, 03:29 AM.
    Madden25 next gen cant come soon enough!!!

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    • da ThRONe
      Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
      • Mar 2009
      • 8527

      #302
      Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

      I'm 100% ok with this. But like many have said this better result in excellent gameplay. If game play blows me away they get a free pass til M12 to get franchise right.

      We can point out the obvious that the old direction of Madden has ruin this game up until now. Or we can appreciate that we have new direction committed to getting it right from here on out. I personally rather the latter.
      You looking at the Chair MAN!

      Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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      • GreenReign86
        Banned
        • Apr 2010
        • 711

        #303
        What ticks me off the most is that they added an online game mode that less people will play then online franchise, while ignoring online and offline franchise. They need to get their priorities in order.

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        • da ThRONe
          Fire LesS Miles ASAP!
          • Mar 2009
          • 8527

          #304
          Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

          I would love for the pre-season to mean something again. I want position battles ,OTA's ,mini camps and cut days. And can we please get practice squads.
          You looking at the Chair MAN!

          Number may not tell the whole story ,but they never lie either.

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          • rooney8
            Pro
            • Jul 2009
            • 823

            #305
            Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

            Like I said before this is great news.
            The only thing that worries me is if something changes in their priorities to overhaul franchise mode next year.
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            • Tweeg
              MVP
              • Jul 2008
              • 1414

              #306
              Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

              I can't wait until a year from today when we get to hear about the core gameplay improvements for Madden 12. Then there will be a special dedication to revamping franchise mode in Madden 13. You guys wait this will be awesome!
              Prototype Supreme

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              • Fresh Prince
                Rookie
                • Apr 2009
                • 233

                #307
                Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

                Typical EA. Shame on us for expecting better. That is all.

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                • Nev
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 168

                  #308
                  Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

                  Online Franchise is the only reason I'm still playing this game, without it I would have traded this game back in 09!

                  I wasn't really expecting anything major to happen to it but I at least thought some kind of off-season would be added. When it was announced last year, Ian Cummings said the good thing about Online Franchise was that its server based so there would be no need for a patch, they could update it on the fly.
                  He also said that a salary cap would be added later in the year but that never came. Now we find out that nothing is gonna happen to it in M11?!?!

                  Bit disappointed in this news but at least the gameplay is gonna be the best Madden has ever seen.... Right?

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                  • Icarus2k9
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 118

                    #309
                    Okay....not the best news in the world....

                    Just please say to get Franchise to at least an intriguing level, they've hidden progression and fixed IR, right? Hidden progression is the most basic on/off option ever, and working IR is beyond vital to roster management and the mode in general. That'll at least (if the injury/stat improvements are true) give me a decent season mode that will have to be HEAVILY dependent on the new presentation to keep interest up.

                    If you're going to claim yet again that franchise / superstar mode will get fixed next year, give us those two goodwill gestures. And then actually revamp it. If it's going to take more than a year, and they haven't started putting things in yet (suggested by the 'give us your ideas' comment that must have stung like hell for anyone heavily involved in last year's community feedback process) then we're facing the very very real prospect of it having to be a next-next gen feature.

                    Because however honest and open they've been (and props for that, although it's obvious from the Developer videos you could have told us all this back in at least April, probably beginning of the year), it's starting to feel like they are stalling for time. Josh Looman's pretty much been brought on for MUT full-time the moment they realised how poor the current franchise structure is.

                    And the sad thing? However much we like to say everyone really cares about franchise, not online, their marketing figures say otherwise. You can see it with every other game franchise ever. They are looking for Fifa's crown, and the whole success of Fifa has been endless play now online and bare-bones online leagues for friends. Yes, most people play franchise. But as Fifa's shoddy Manager Mode has proved, most people don't care about it being hyper-complex or involving.

                    People are claiming with this news, watch the sales plummet. But Fifa's would have gone south by now on that logic, because MM is really poor. Yet it's strangely selling as strong as ever, if not stronger, and it's not like the ping-pong, speed wins, cheesefest online brand of football they peddle is realistic, so don't say "B....B.....B.....BUT GAMEPLAY"

                    Madden will sell more this year if people like the idea of 3 on 3 and perks. If not, it'll sell the same. Until that changes, franchise guys will ALWAYS have to just sit and hope EA throws them a bone one year.

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                    • J Masta J
                      Pro
                      • May 2009
                      • 597

                      #310
                      Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

                      I won't be buying '11. But if they're telling the truth about next year, then it sounds like '12 will be a first day purchase. THAT IS, if they're telling the truth, which at this point, is a huge "if." Wasn't Madden 11 supposed to be the year of Franchise mode?
                      Visit JonBob's Packer Blog,your home for insightful analysis and opinion on everything Green and Gold.

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                      • salbowski
                        Banned
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 928

                        #311
                        Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

                        So all they've done to Franchise mode is fix the stats that they broke with the patch last year?!?

                        So all they've done is remove that patch!!

                        Brilliant.

                        What has been the point of bringing Looman in... is he the guy that's been adding all this new online modes that nobody uses more than once?

                        Atleast we know why they've been hiding away for the last 8 months... but it's okay, they've added an advanced version of "ask madden".
                        Last edited by salbowski; 06-12-2010, 05:24 AM.

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                        • wangtangkiki
                          Rookie
                          • Dec 2009
                          • 106

                          #312
                          Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

                          Originally posted by GreenReign86
                          Oh and I also forgot that the ite breakers in Online Franchise were decided on alphabetical order. So if you used a team like the Vikings, Titans, Ravens or even Saints, you were pretty much screwed if you finished the season in a tie with anybody. I can remember one instance in the online franchise I'm in where I finished the season at 10-6 as did the Panthers user, furthermore, I beat him 2 times durring the regular season, yet he makes the playoffs and wins the divison over me because he has a team that starts with the lett "P." What kind of BS is that EA? Inexcusable. I have never been an EA basher the farthest thing from it. However, they are starting to push me closer and closer to that virtual cliff ledge. There is only so much someone can take. As well as shallow promises before the gullibility weares off. I have purchased Madden 1st day, and in the case of lastyear even a week early every year for the past decade. Madden 11 will end that streak as it will most likely be a rent 1st for me via GameFly.
                          ROFL, You didn't know? Where have you been? The NFL changed all tiebreakers to alphabetical by team's mascot names.

                          Originally posted by GreenReign86
                          Sufice it to say, that the 2k fan boys were probably right. [insert vometing animation here]
                          I wasn't a fan boy of 2k, but I agree with all of the people that try to get the news out there that Madden is not a realistic game. No one ever listens. Several ratings do not work.. The fix to everything is always next year.. Oh well.. Hopefully this is a step in the right direction. At least they didn't blame any of their shortcomings on someone or something that was not their fault. O WAIT... they did didn't they? They blamed it on bad coding.. damn..

                          Originally posted by Jimixiii
                          um...false.

                          http://www.operationsports.com/forum...0672990-a.html

                          360+ votes and 77% say they care most about franchise modes.

                          i know this doesn't speaking on the entire sports gaming community but it speaks volumes as to what the average sports gamer actually plays in my opinion. personally, me & my friends care way more about franchise than online also.
                          lol.. This site has frequently been referred to as a "hardcore" community. Casual gamers don't play franchises. That takes too long. Casual gamers want touchdowns and big hits !! They want to be the Vikings and play against the Rhein Fire and throw TDs to Moss.. Oh wait, it's not 2005.. I mean they want to be the Vikings and throw TDs on every play to Sidney Rice because that makes it "fun." Casual gamers are definitely the most targeted demographic of this game.

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                          • wangtangkiki
                            Rookie
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 106

                            #313
                            Re: E3 announcement and career mode update

                            Originally posted by Pacman83
                            Thanks Val...lol, good luck w/ that....
                            EA has lost a ton of respect on the Madden front, but also in the trust/believe area dealing with majority of their games. While the Madden devs are at least appearing to try, the EA leadership has blown it too many times with the terrible quality of several released games, the patty cake approach to "developing" games, and the approach to selling these "games" (so don't even qualify or warrant $60, but advertising will sell almost anything). This is actually a good sign from the Tiburon team, at least to me...though people have a right to be upset, they really shouldn't be, high quality games don't happen overnight, patience guys, remember what this gen started with?? We gotta get out of the hole first, and now it seems they have the right guys in the right places.




                            btw...What do you mean, "You people"???
                            I don't know if they have the "right guys in the right places." They don't seem passionate at all about their jobs. They seem like they just want to hurry and get those developer series interviews over.. It's like they are asleep and talking to the presenter. The PRESENTER is more excited than the developers.. and the PRESENTER is apart of game development with it too..

                            Originally posted by Joeyland
                            clearly EA has run out of ideas on how to sell this tired series.
                            Yep.. and the stupid thing is that they are working on gimmicks and flashy things that don't actually help the gameplay.. By gameplay, I don't mean playcalling or hand towels that your players don't even use.. When I say gameplay, I mean when I hike the ball.. That.. Not the cut scenes in between gameplay. They have yet to realize that this game would be much better if it followed the laws of physics.

                            I know that there wouldn't be 350,000 people that get online once then never get on again if they patched disconnection glitches. I know of several disconnect glitches that aren't fixed. I know exactly what causes people to disconnect when they have their field goal blocked, but it's not fixed yet. They need to fix the experience we have online while also fixing the basic gameplay that is very much lacking in Madden.

                            I really wish I could get an enjoyable football game with real physics. I want to have my WR/DB interactions to be REAL. If I'm on All-Madden skill level, I want my WRs to actually be able to get off the press. If I'm using the All-Madden skill level, I want ratings to work. They don't in certain situations.. like the press rating has no effect on All-Madden. No matter the ratings, they have 99 press.. WR Release ratings are 12.. They will not get off the press until the 3 second animation ends..


                            Originally posted by jdr4693
                            why do they keep focusing on online??? I dont do online franchise our any other online stuff and yet that seems to be their focus every year.. When will the offline gamers get respect?? I want more depth in offline franchise I hate all this new online dynasty, franchise crap....
                            Online mode gets them extra customers. They want to take advantage of the consumer. Ask Peter Moore. He's said it himself. He wants to get as many purchases from us as possible. Madden Ultimate Team was a cash grab.. It's in other games too. I think it's in FIFA.. FIFA Ultimate Team.. They will probably have UFC Ultimate Team [which is a funny name for a solo sport.. UFC Ultimate Fighter? Already taken.. omg.. whats next?].. Just a Ultimate Team for all of their games.

                            Originally posted by Gosens6
                            This is why I have a certain resentment toward online and tournament players. I don't dislike them, but I do resent them because they're the reason this is all happening. More or less.
                            Trust me.. Tournament players do not enjoy these ****ty new features they add online.. Online Co-op? No tournament player enjoyed that POS.. 3v3 will fail like CoOp has..

                            Originally posted by jdr4693
                            I'm really getting sick of having to take a back seat (as an offline gamer) to all this online dynasty, franchise etc. crap... The reason everyone loved ESPN NFL 2k5 was because it had such a deep and fun offline franchise..heck it didnt even have any of this new online crap and people still prefer it over all the new online stuff. Why? because offline franchise (done well) is more addictive than a stupid online dynasty and online league that is boring after like a couple weeks!!!
                            You don't provide them with extra profit. EA is trying to make as much money as they can.. If they can get a little extra profit by selling you MUT Coins then they will.. If you haven't heard, they added a new scouting system for online.. You use Madden Coins to scout your opponent.. You can of course buy Madden Coins with real money. They are trying to expand the game for profit. Sorry How can you play against a CPU? Especially with Madden's poor AI.. I would hate it.

                            Originally posted by Sheamazin
                            Well atleast the Meadowlands will host the Superbowl in 2014 in the game.
                            ROFL I KNOW RIGHT!!??! I CAN'T WAIT!

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                            • grunt
                              Banned
                              • Jul 2002
                              • 9527

                              #314
                              Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

                              I haven't played franchise in over a decade in any sport games. I haven't seen much progress in franchise since FPS. EA and most game companies are focusing more on online play than off line play. At least EA is being more honest than other developers.

                              I complain about LOS play for the last 5 years and if that get fixed I am a happy camper. Now with all that being said the sport gaming will die a slow death if they can't improve offline play. I should be able to have a deep and realistic franchise mode without doing an online franchise.

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                              • marktg30
                                Banned
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 3945

                                #315
                                Re: Madden NFL 11 Blog: E3 Feature Announcement and Career Modes Update

                                NCAA 11 it is!

                                UNF*##$@!%$-BELIEVEABLE!

                                Every optimistic "EA will save it for E3" guy needs to get off the EA (Madden) wagon RIGHT NOW.

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