Madden NFL 11 Makes Co-Op Online Football Fun w/ Video (IGN)

[TheWatcher]

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I like Gus a lot but there still needs to be a bit more commentary. He's silent until after the snap..
We need a bit of "Favre hands off to Peterson, he's gonna bounce it outside.." etc

Yep, I wrote this to them myself. At least since going to broadcast-style this generation, they never announce who's dropping back, they never announce who the ball is being handed off to, they never announce who's in to receive, they never announce who's in to kick or punt. Those are big empty spaces, and since all of these actions happen for the entire course of an NFL game, well, they've got a big problem there. I know they said they hired professional writers, but... that silence is awful, and I honestly don't see how that can go without being noticed unless you just don't watch NFL games on TV...?

There were some videos djordan posted of Madden 03(?) where the QB was announced dropping back, and handoffs were announced, etc. that bad silence didn't exist last generation.

[Vikes1]

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BTW don't you guys think that the game looks awfully similar to Madden 10?

Yes I do.

However imo, not sure if we could really expect a dramatic difference in just one year. But if you may mean, wheres the evidence of momentum and locomotion? Although this is a very small sample size....I didn't see any either. Not saying it's not there...but personally, I just didn't see it. Looks just like M10 to me so far. But it certainly is a beautiful looking game.

[thmst30]

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Yep, I wrote this to them myself. At least since going to broadcast-style this generation, they never announce who's dropping back, they never announce who the ball is being handed off to, they never announce who's in to receive, they never announce who's in to kick or punt. Those are big empty spaces, and since all of these actions happen for the entire course of an NFL game, well, they've got a big problem there. I know they said they hired professional writers, but... that silence is awful, and I honestly don't see how that can go without being noticed unless you just don't watch NFL games on TV...?

There were some videos djordan posted of Madden 03(?) where the QB was announced dropping back, and handoffs were announced, etc. that bad silence didn't exist last generation.

I know the commentary has been a sore spot with you. Is it truly possible they spent all this time since last year writing up brand new commentary and they didn't change a thing in how it's delivered? I just can't fathom that they decided to start from scratch with Gus and even listed "completely revamped audio presentation from the booth to the field" as a major feature, but yet they STILL have bland uninspired commentary. I won't completely judge from that video for a multitude of reasons, but do you see it being drastically improved this year?

[Xeper84]

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I couldn't see a real difference between madden 10 &11 in all the videos i've seen only a little improvement in player movement. But i have also not seen a single gang tackle thats something thats makes me nervous.

[SA1NT401]

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I can't believe the managed to turn Gus Johnson into Tom Hammond. That commentary is horrible, too much dead space. The game needs banter. Yuck.

He finishes the 'He's gonna pass' commentary as the ball is caught. That line should only be used on a play fake, or triggered immediately after 'they hike the ball, and he's gonna pass', though I wouldn't say it that even as it's not natural.

Says they tuned the cameras where 'everybody is happy'. Does that mean a customizable camera finally?

my feelings exactly. Good he is in there...But he is Gus Hammond honestly.

And the addition of 3 v3 online gameplay is probably sweet for the 30 people who actually enjoy that.....But w/e....

[blitzkrieger]

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I was pretty impressed with that vid. But still no foot plant for the RB which is a downer. What irks me more is all this attention to online play. If chise is the same ole thing there are going to be a lot of pissed gamers..

[Whammer]

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Awful commentary!!! Why they can't seem to make it like EA's NHL and FIFA games is beyond me!? Those games have flowing, non stop action and the commentary is always top notch. Football, because of all the stoppages for setting the ball for the "downs", should be even easier to have seemless commentary. But they can't seem to figure it out! It's always spliced bits of speech stuck together and the announcer's inflections make it painfully obvious that it's spliced together. GARBAGE!

[Jkgrindz]

I couldn't care less about online play but it looked like they got Adrian Peterson's signature running style down. That was a pleasant surprise. I want to see some vids in the Zoom Camera view. I hate the default birds eye view in Madden. It makes the players look so small. I want to feel like I'm on the field when playing not watching from a blimp.

[Pacman83]

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Yep, I wrote this to them myself. At least since going to broadcast-style this generation, they never announce who's dropping back, they never announce who the ball is being handed off to, they never announce who's in to receive, they never announce who's in to kick or punt. Those are big empty spaces, and since all of these actions happen for the entire course of an NFL game, well, they've got a big problem there. I know they said they hired professional writers, but... that silence is awful, and I honestly don't see how that can go without being noticed unless you just don't watch NFL games on TV...?

There were some videos djordan posted of Madden 03(?) where the QB was announced dropping back, and handoffs were announced, etc. that bad silence didn't exist last generation.

What had happened here???
I though commentary was more like this...
http://www.osatwork.com/forums/showt...hlight=Johnson

Did they cut out most of the commentary? It was so quiet...maybe they were focusing on showing off the co-op stuff.

[Pass_The_Cows]

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This is craziness. For the first time in my life the Madden hype train has actually LOWERED my interest in the game. Every other year (on 360) I have fallen for the hype only to be disappointed. These last 2-3 days in particular have absolutely killed any excitement i had for Madden 11. No improvements to online or offline Franchise mode? Then what's going to keep my mind off the horrible robot gameplay? I was pretty pumped for Gus but after this video I see they somehow managed to screw that up too. If the pre-planned and perfected hype-campaign looks terrible I hate to think what the real game is going to be like. I hate to say this and I don't wish unhappiness on anyone but the Madden team should be ashamed of themselves. Lucky for me NCAA looks phenomenal this year.

[tswiatkowski]

It would be a LOT of fun if this OTP was implemented in a similar way to the OTP in NHL. For example, you create a player for each "squad" as it was called in the video, and at the beginning of each OTP match you would select the position you wanted to play. On the subject of the rest of the computer controlled team, I think random computer players in the uniforms that you choose would be pretty cool, but the lack of options (only 32 teams) might challenge diversity a bit. Special EA helmets gloves, shoes, etc could be added as well. Take a hint from the NHL team and use the technology that is available EA!

[tswiatkowski]

I was pretty impressed with that vid. But still no foot plant for the RB which is a downer. What irks me more is all this attention to online play. If chise is the same ole thing there are going to be a lot of pissed gamers..

Bro, I'm going to have to let you down here and give some bad news. EA announced today that there would be no major additions to chise this year because of the gameplay improvements. Madden 12 is supposedly going to devote most of their resources to it. Sorry man.

[Jimixiii]

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What had happened here???
I though commentary was more like this...
http://www.osatwork.com/forums/showt...hlight=Johnson

Did they cut out most of the commentary? It was so quiet...maybe they were focusing on showing off the co-op stuff.

Yeah, I thought a lot of people would assume that video was showcasing what was to come (and unfortunately I think EA knew it would look that way too, yet they put the videos out to hype people up to assume the announcing would be that detailed as well). But that was just a little warm up or whatnot to get Gus going I guess. I felt it wasn't an actual recorded session. But I also think they didn't need to put that video to make people think that's how it's going to sound.

[splff3000]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Makes Co-Op Online Football Fun w/ Video (IGN)

IGN has posted some hands-on impressions of the recently announced online co-op mode in Madden NFL 11.

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All I can do is laugh at this. I have to laugh to keep from crying. In the last few days Madden has gone from a definite buy to a definite skip for me. For the first time in my adult life, I will not be buying Madden this year. I have already talked to my boys that I usually play and we have all agreed to just get NCAA this year. I feel like I'm breaking up with a long time girlfriend lol.

I just don't understand this. How can this game look almost exactly like Madden 10 when EA has claimed that they have worked mainly on gameplay this year. I don't understand. It's killing me too because it's like I'm watching my favorite franchise die right before my eyes. Every vid that I have seen looks almost exactly like 10 to me. That would've been alright if they had done something with franchise and/or online franchise, but I can not accept this AND no changes to franchise. Not when NCAA is tearing things up this year as far as changes go. *sigh**

I agree with most everyone hear about the commentary. A few of us brought this up in a thread a few months ago when they announced Gus Johnson as the new play by play guy. We all said that it doesn't matter who they have announcing if they didn't change the way the dialogue flowed. As you can see, we were right. It sounds just as stale and bland as it did when Tom Hammond was doing it.

*sigh* I am beaten and defeated. I come here everyday now, hoping to find something that will make me change my mind about Madden and everyday, it just gets worse and worse. I am still holding out a little glimmer of hope that the vids at E3 will be drastically different from the vids that have been released so far. I am not expecting them to be, but I am hoping they are. If they are not, I guess that will be my final straw. It will be hard, but we all know, breaking up is hard to do.

[TheWatcher]

Re: New interview/footage at ign

What had happened here???
I though commentary was more like this...
http://www.osatwork.com/forums/showt...hlight=Johnson

Did they cut out most of the commentary? It was so quiet...maybe they were focusing on showing off the co-op stuff.

I know the commentary has been a sore spot with you. Is it truly possible they spent all this time since last year writing up brand new commentary and they didn't change a thing in how it's delivered? I just can't fathom that they decided to start from scratch with Gus and even listed "completely revamped audio presentation from the booth to the field" as a major feature, but yet they STILL have bland uninspired commentary. I won't completely judge from that video for a multitude of reasons, but do you see it being drastically improved this year?

I remember in the last Gus Johnson vid, I mentioned how good the studio recordings sounded. It really was some high energy stuff. Adem even mentioned that he thought the energy might've be too high. But I also mentioned that how they piece these together is going to be key. Now, I realize that wasn't a whole lot there, but clearly you can hear how some of those clips didn't sound completely cohesive. It went up and down in intensity in a way that just doesn't sound gelled. I expected it to not be perfect (nothing in any game ever is) But I guess I didn't expect it to sound so dead, that's a real shocker after what I'd heard when I was there. But I guess I should've remembered something I said long before any of us including myself knew there would be a new commentator "it doesn't matter who you put in there. If the process doesn't change, we'll all be back here next year complaining again."

Please just let this be a very old build where these things hadn't been worked out yet... somebody tell me this is not happening...