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  • strut24
    MVP
    • Mar 2003
    • 1533

    #61
    Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

    Originally posted by Clarityman
    So I'm planning on editing stamina and boosting for my own personal use, because I love the pitch edits but even with slider tweaks I'm having problems with stamina, and I care more about actual gameplay than simmed results.

    I'd like to use Bahnzo's roster editor, but I cannot get it to work, even after spending several hours trying to get it running.

    Just to see if anyone is interested, is there anyone out there willing to create a spreadsheet with Bahnzo's stamina ratings for pitchers?

    I would then edit the stamina on V.4 once it's released for my personal use, and of course I'd be willing to share it (I'd only post it publicly if there was interest/if RAZR, Knight, and Co. said it was okay).
    what kind of "problems" have you been experiencing? Maybe share some of your results. Who you used, pitch counts, game situations etc. I might be interested in updated stamina but I havent gotten a chance to try the new rosters (even though I helped release them hehe) so Im curious as to what kind of problems you're having

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    • bushidonole
      Banned
      • Jan 2006
      • 192

      #62
      Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

      Originally posted by strut24
      what kind of "problems" have you been experiencing? Maybe share some of your results. Who you used, pitch counts, game situations etc. I might be interested in updated stamina but I havent gotten a chance to try the new rosters (even though I helped release them hehe) so Im curious as to what kind of problems you're having
      Probably the same as everyone else.

      Starters on CPU teams being pulled after 6-7 innings, even if they have a perfect game going, and are under 100 pitches.

      I know I've been bumping all starters up to at least 80 at the minimum for stamina. I think I like how the relief pitchers are set-up, so that they don't work a hell of a lot of innings, and are used realistically.

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      • Clarityman
        Pro
        • Apr 2009
        • 513

        #63
        Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

        Originally posted by bushidonole
        Probably the same as everyone else.

        Starters on CPU teams being pulled after 6-7 innings, even if they have a perfect game going, and are under 100 pitches.

        I know I've been bumping all starters up to at least 80 at the minimum for stamina. I think I like how the relief pitchers are set-up, so that they don't work a hell of a lot of innings, and are used realistically.
        Exactly right. Even with slider edits, the CPU behavior is problematic.

        For example, I was playing around with an experimental Nats franchise, doing a lot of simming and playing a few games. In a series, the CPU's bullpen would be completely burnt but they wouldn't call anyone up to replace. So they'd constantly bring in guys who were spent, just for me to feast on.

        This was the CPU behavior: bring in reliever with 0 stamina, allow a hit or walk, bring in the next reliever with 0 stamina, allow a hit or walk, repeat.

        It was fun demolishing them, but not exactly realistic.

        The CPU has similar problems with the starters. And I personally have problems getting low stamina guys through 5 innings of work, even with slider edits.

        I was thinking of bumping all starters to a minimum stamina as well, but I'd rather do all my editing at once whenever V.4 is released, and use realistic stamina ratings.

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        • strut24
          MVP
          • Mar 2003
          • 1533

          #64
          Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

          Originally posted by Clarityman
          Exactly right. Even with slider edits, the CPU behavior is problematic.

          For example, I was playing around with an experimental Nats franchise, doing a lot of simming and playing a few games. In a series, the CPU's bullpen would be completely burnt but they wouldn't call anyone up to replace. So they'd constantly bring in guys who were spent, just for me to feast on.

          This was the CPU behavior: bring in reliever with 0 stamina, allow a hit or walk, bring in the next reliever with 0 stamina, allow a hit or walk, repeat.

          It was fun demolishing them, but not exactly realistic.

          The CPU has similar problems with the starters. And I personally have problems getting low stamina guys through 5 innings of work, even with slider edits.

          I was thinking of bumping all starters to a minimum stamina as well, but I'd rather do all my editing at once whenever V.4 is released, and use realistic stamina ratings.
          hmm, that doesnt sound so good. What are your slider starter/reliever stamina and manager hook settings at?

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          • JaSnake16
            Knows what evil lurks...
            • Nov 2003
            • 478

            #65
            Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

            Update: the NL East is done. That's more than I thought I was gonna get done this weekend. Tommorrow night I hope to get the NL out of the way completely. FYI I tinkered with John Maine and Ollie Perez velocity, they're velocity is now 87 and 88 for their fastballs.

            Just my two cents on the stamina issue: sliders guys check your hook and starter / reliever stamina sliders
            OS Longtime Lurker - Extremely occasional OS Poster

            Another year, and here we go again.

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            • RAZRr1275
              All Star
              • Sep 2007
              • 9918

              #66
              Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

              Originally posted by bushidonole
              Probably the same as everyone else.

              Starters on CPU teams being pulled after 6-7 innings, even if they have a perfect game going, and are under 100 pitches.

              I know I've been bumping all starters up to at least 80 at the minimum for stamina. I think I like how the relief pitchers are set-up, so that they don't work a hell of a lot of innings, and are used realistically.
              Honestly I'm not seeing these problems at all. I really don't know what's going on
              My latest project - Madden 12 http://www.operationsports.com/forum...post2043231648

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              • HustlinOwl
                All Star
                • Mar 2004
                • 9713

                #67
                Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

                Originally posted by RAZRr1275
                Honestly I'm not seeing these problems at all. I really don't know what's going on
                playing franchise now, Silva 95 pitches in bottom 7th and energy is empty he is still throwing

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                • mattlanta
                  MVP
                  • Aug 2008
                  • 2384

                  #68
                  Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

                  Originally posted by HustlinOwl
                  playing franchise now, Silva 95 pitches in bottom 7th and energy is empty he is still throwing
                  Some pitchers can pitch for 100-110 pitches. His control must be going down?

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                  • ltw0303cavs
                    MVP
                    • Sep 2006
                    • 1052

                    #69
                    Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

                    On the new rosters Silva is at a 70 for stamina, i would say thats bare minimum for starters. Starters should be above 70 and relievers should not be above 30. If you try that scale out i think it works out decently. So on the new rosters you will have to change a few starters like Liriano who is a 59.

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                    • Clarityman
                      Pro
                      • Apr 2009
                      • 513

                      #70
                      Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

                      Originally posted by strut24
                      hmm, that doesnt sound so good. What are your slider starter/reliever stamina and manager hook settings at?
                      Starter at 7, Reliever at Default, Manager Hook at 3.

                      I could make them higher, but I worry about making too many adjustments when I thought default sliders played a near perfect game.

                      Originally posted by RAZRr1275
                      Honestly I'm not seeing these problems at all. I really don't know what's going on
                      In the end it's a personal preference. It's changed quite a few things about the game for me, and I realize I like stamina higher. Everyone has their own preferences and settings. I know I like Guess Pitch this year, even though I hated it last year; I'm a weirdo, I know.

                      But I'm in no way suggesting any changes be made just for me or the handful of people who feel as I do. It seems most people like the new stamina system, that's an indication of success.

                      For my part, I just wanted access to Bahnzo's stamina ratings so I could make changes on my own.

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                      • hope4bob
                        Rookie
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 109

                        #71
                        Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

                        Originally posted by RAZRr1275
                        Honestly I'm not seeing these problems at all. I really don't know what's going on
                        I don't seem to be having those kind of problems either.

                        I have no idea if it makes a difference how early in the season it is when
                        these pitchers are pulled early. Just a guess, don't know if that's part of
                        the math or not but when I was playing with the broadcasters on Dave
                        Campbell was giving me grief about leaving Sabathia in in the 8th with a
                        1 hitter vs. Red Sox because he said it was too early in the season for
                        a pitcher to go that far. So that gave me a hint that maybe it did matter
                        when in the season it is.

                        all-star level no slider adjustments.

                        bob

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                        • eamuscatuli15
                          Rookie
                          • Oct 2009
                          • 357

                          #72
                          Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

                          Just curious what the difference between the franchise file from hustlin owl compared to just downloading the new v.3 off of sportsconnect is?

                          Couldn't i just start a franchise and control all 30 teams and get the same thing out of it? What exactly is the benefit of the franchise file?
                          MLB: Chicago Cubs
                          NCAA Hoops: Georgetown Hoyas
                          NBA: Los Angeles Lakers
                          NFL: Kansas City Chiefs
                          NCAA Football: Nebraska Cornhuskers
                          HS Football: Rolla High School Bulldogs '95 (12-1)


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                          • hope4bob
                            Rookie
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 109

                            #73
                            Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

                            Originally posted by Clarityman
                            Starter at 7, Reliever at Default, Manager Hook at 3.

                            I know I like Guess Pitch this year, even though I hated it last year; I'm a weirdo, I know.

                            .
                            I kinda like it this year too. Don't know how most people use it but I just
                            pitch selection but not location and usually I just guess fastball and re-act
                            best I can. Knowing how and doing are two fifferent things. I hate
                            Wakefield's knuckler!

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                            • DJ
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Apr 2003
                              • 17756

                              #74
                              Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

                              Originally posted by eamuscatuli15
                              Just curious what the difference between the franchise file from hustlin owl compared to just downloading the new v.3 off of sportsconnect is?

                              Couldn't i just start a franchise and control all 30 teams and get the same thing out of it? What exactly is the benefit of the franchise file?
                              For those that don't want to mess with 30-team control. The franchise file will have more accurate lineups than the Sportsconnect file, which is based off of Opening Day rosters.
                              Currently Playing:
                              MLB The Show 25 (PS5)

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                              • eamuscatuli15
                                Rookie
                                • Oct 2009
                                • 357

                                #75
                                Re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

                                So is Strasburg on the Nationals in the franchise file?
                                MLB: Chicago Cubs
                                NCAA Hoops: Georgetown Hoyas
                                NBA: Los Angeles Lakers
                                NFL: Kansas City Chiefs
                                NCAA Football: Nebraska Cornhuskers
                                HS Football: Rolla High School Bulldogs '95 (12-1)


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