NHL 11 Hands-On E3 Impressions (IGN)

[UwantRadie]

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True. OT celebrations tend to be over the top for a couple reasons:
1) After an exhausting game it's nice to win; and more importantly
2) You don't take another shift.

If you took another shift against a team with any gumption, you'd taste powdered enamel.

Exactly. It's odd because I am a HUGE sim guy but I really feel like the game doesnt capture the excitment of scoring a goal... I think better camera angles and presentation would help this better then new celebrations, but we'll see.

Like I said - kick + face. I'm a bit of a Prongling goon kind of guy.

Ugh... Why not act like someone will more class... like Hitler maybe?

That's my fear. EA's track record tends to make me think it'll be foolish.

Oh I understand the fear... I got it too, but I guess for me I am a little less apprehensive just becasue I have felt the celebrations were lacking for a long time. They arent real now, so even if they arent real in NHL 11, at least they are different ones.

I will certainly learn all the celebrations and how dramatic they are and will only do ones that fit the situation.. Hopefully the AI does the same.


I will also add this... The Pro Evolution Soccer series has had in my mind the best goal replay system in recent years. We should steal that. It was very simple but effective... First a replay consisting of action angles and multiple cuts, then a replay from more of a "follow" camera, then the 3rd replay actually opened up the replay controls for you automatically. You could control everything, but the real sweet spot was that the action would start rolling in slow motion and you could just opt to only control the camera angles as you watched... So simple so elegant... One last thing.. all 3 replays had very fast and responsive "skip" buttons".

[Bama83]

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Hrrrrmmm. And when was his next shift? Two days? Three days?

When does he next play this team? A month? A week? Next year?

Big difference than a simple goal where you have to take the ice in a shift or two.

[Bama83]

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Exactly. It's odd because I am a HUGE sim guy but I really feel like the game doesnt capture the excitment of scoring a goal... I think better camera angles and presentation would help this better then new celebrations, but we'll see.

Totally agree.

The current situation is boring, as is. I'm just not sure going over the top is the solution.

I think going to a 5 player mob, skating to the bench, fist bumps - with a more "real time presentation" camera (ala The Show) would be the best option. Have a few different single player reactions, but the way in which the group gets together would make each time unique.

Ugh... Why not act like someone will more class... like Hitler maybe?

Would it only weaken my case to say my favorite player of all time is Lindros?

[Pringles]

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the game sounds like it is going to be awesome they added alot more than i could have imagined they would. i will be buying this one for sure

[onlybygrace]

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I don't recall seeing anywhere that you would be required to use them? I would think a user controlled celebration would be very applicable on a game winning goal. I'm going to quote the movie 'Stripes' now...."Lighten up, Francis."

This.

This is all the review really said about the celebrations...

'The one I saw was essentially a guy sliding face-first down on the ice, hands outstretched. I was told there were plenty more to be had, but that's all I saw in my short demo at E3.'

When you get the game, find the ones you like and use those...if you see someone online do something you find over the top, go and find him after the whistle.

But, above all, stop whining like little girls.

[UwantRadie]

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Would it only weaken my case to say my favorite player of all time is Lindros?

Ha.. only slightly.

I hate Philly*, so there is obviously some tension there to start with, but I still recall how great the Lindros-Renberg-Recchi line was and I appreciate skill so that gives him some more points.

Plus he did come to my Rangers for a while.

And I do have a soft spot in my heart for all athletes who had their careers cut short.

Ehh. Lindros wasnt such a bad guy...

But Pronger? I dont know if you have kids, but any father who saw what he did with the pucks during the finals should use that opportunity to illustrate how you dont disrespect the sport or opponent like that. My kid is only a year old (in 4 days actually) and when he is old enough to play sports, I will personally suspend him from playing for pulling anything like that.

To use the national stage like that to display such lack of class was a black eye on the sport.

Oddly (or maybe not so), this comes back to the celebrations... you dont show up the other team... I dont think it is too hard to find that balance of celebrating without showing up the other team.

[Bama83]

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When you get the game, find the ones you like and use those...if you see someone online do something you find over the top, go and find him after the whistle.

Oh, real intimidating. My digital creation beat up your digital creation. That'll be sure to teach him a lesson.

But, above all, stop whining like little girls.

I've got a better idea - How about you quit with the sexist remarks that are completely unneeded?

If that's all you have to add to the discussion the log out button is at the top left. I'd draw you a map, but I'll assume you have the skills to find it.

[UwantRadie]

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I just thought of the PERFECT solution...

CUSTOM FIVE MAN HUGS!

Well, I never thought I would ever type (or say) that!

Think about it.. You score, the team comes over, you can choose to do your celebrating on the boards, behind the net or skate up back toward the bench before finally hugging, then you control whether you pat the heads of the guys or just hug as well as other minor things...

The sad part is I am only half-kidding.

[Qb]

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What exactly is going on here today? Everyone needs to cool down and not get so worked up over speculation. Above all, the snarky jabs at each other need to stop.

[UwantRadie]

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I feel like Qb put his warning to be nice in the wrong thread... lol

[Money99]

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I don't mind user-controlled celebrations. Someone here already said the previous ones were terrible and I couldn't agree more.

Just as long as the CPU isn't doing a superman-dive after scoring a goal in the 1st period of Game 1 of the regular season, I'll be cool with it.

But if he does, at least we have post-whistle controls at our command. Dale Hunter anyone?

[tyler289]

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Over-the-top celebrations have no place in a "sim" game IMO. Hopefully this type of "addition" didn't take time away from the attention the CPU AI drastically needs.

Agreed. They should have just taken common celebrations from the real NHL and used those.

If the custom celebrations are like the old ones I'm going to really hate it.

[Scottdau]

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It will suck to see some of those over the top ones that the CPU will do. I hate that about the other hockey game. I hope you can turn this off and just have the CPU do a five player hug and then hand shakes on the bench. That is all I want, so I hope they have that this year.

[Vikes1]

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They should have just taken common celebrations from the real NHL and used those.

Yep, I agree.

I guess I'm just not a "over the top" kinda guy.

But I know I have to share the game with those that might be. So I guess I can deal with it if must be. I play about 90% of my games in GM mode...so I'm hoping a quick hit of the "A" button will nix any complete foolishness.

But like others have kinda said...I sure hope they spend more time on the AI, than this kind of stuff.

[Lubey]

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If you don't like huge celebrations, don't use them. FIFA has them and it doesn't ruin the game. They wouldn't have added them if no one wanted them. If they made a game designed for the super sim crowd they wouldn't make as much money as they are appealing to a broader crowd. It's just how it is.

It'll be like the ******** equipment from last year. Annoying? Yes. Game ruining? Absolutely not.