Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

[shttymcgee]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

It seemed like he got up the whole field in just 10 strides (exaggeration). Seriously though his legs don't seem to be moving as fast as he's running. It's like they don't take enough strides.

What? He was taking 2 strides for every 5 yards when in the open field. How many do you think should be taken?

[DaveDQ]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

It seemed like he got up the whole field in just 10 strides (exaggeration). Seriously though his legs don't seem to be moving as fast as he's running. It's like they don't take enough strides.

I don't get the whole "locomotion looks good" when players don't look like they're even touching the turf. The need to plant when moving left/right was needed, but come on - that should be an expected improvement. The skating is really noticeable. And the tackling/player interaction is simply poor.

Something I'm noticing that does not help this issue is the camera movement. If you notice the shifting camera during this video, it really exaggerates the sliding feel. I'm not saying sliding isn't there, but the camera does not help.

I agree with the locomotion gaps. It seems speed does not decrease after a juke is made. Locomotion looks good before speed is obtained, but once a runner is in full stride, it appears that the player's feet and ground aren't working together.

[RaiderKtulu]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

What? He was taking 2 strides for every 5 yards when in the open field. How many do you think should be taken?

2 strides for 5 yards... Can you move 15 feet in 2 steps?

The running almost looks like it's worse than last year.... almost Sega Genesis style, just gliding along the surface.

If a certain other game gets patched, I see almost no reason to bother buying Madden this year.

[djordan]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

I really doubt it, when you run into a teammate in madden you don't fall down. Teammates are protected by invisible force-fields. The current Madden engine has *friendly fire* implemented, where is your collision with a teammate doesn't trigger a motion capture/collision animations like it would if you impacted an opponent. In regards to teammate to teammate collisions, madden is totally unrealistic, and it mimics what you see in first person shooters with friendly fire on. In case you don't know it disables you from being able to harm or shoot your teammate.

Great example dude!

[jf28]

The main feature this year is a glorified "Ask Madden." I'll probably get slammed for trolling..but that's what it seems like to me. Every video I've seen so far still has suction blocking..I just don't know where to start.

By the way, I'm not trolling..I'm just giving my opinion...check my record on OS. I'm just really feeling disgusted about Madden from everything I've seen and heard so far. It needs to be torn down and built up. It will never work as long as you all are just patching it and building on the same thing. If it takes two years that's ok. The only problem is that the powers that be at EA will NEVER let it take two years.

Seriously. I'm waiting to see a screen where, in the bottom where it gives you advice, it says "Tell your line to protect here. Tell your line to protect every play, not just here."

[RaiderKtulu]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

Seriously. I'm waiting to see a screen where, in the bottom where it gives you advice, it says "Tell your line to protect here. Tell your line to protect every play, not just here."

It's kinda funny in a way... it's like a flashback to 2001 where it was "ask coach" rather than ask madden and it had a different voice telling you what to run.

It definitely shouldn't deserve any type of hype as a major feature...it's what should have been there to start with.

[SA1NT401]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

Yup, its madden....Am i just not seeing locomotion or is it like the NCAA DEMO...Where you have to actually play to "FEEL' it?

That vid was just pathetic honestly....Backing up instead of going forward IMHO. "ICE SKATING" has gotten A-lot worse from what i can tell at this point.

[The Yurpman]

This might be the first year I pass on Madden since 2001.

[kjcheezhead]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

I can't stand watching Reggie Bush bounce off 3 defenders, but you guys do realize this is an intentional design of the game by the devs and not an example of how the "engine" is broken, right?

Ian was on here last year promoting pro-tak and was talking about not wanting a play to be over until the runner was down. He used this video as an example of what he was shooting for...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ILs1ALU3O0

[RaiderKtulu]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

I can't stand watching Reggie Bush bounce off 3 defenders, but you guys do realize this is an intentional design of the game by the devs and not an example of how the "engine" is broken, right?

Ian was on here last year promoting pro-tak and was talking about not wanting a play to be over until the runner was down. He used this video as an example of what he was shooting for...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ILs1ALU3O0

If people can bash Backbreaker for it's intentional design choice of having only one camera, then surely people can bash Madden for what they view as a bad implementation of their "engine", can they not?

Intentional design or not, it sure as heck doesn't look very realistic does it.

[Exonerated]

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If people can bash Backbreaker for it's intentional design choice of having only one camera, then surely people can bash Madden for what they view as a bad implementation of their "engine", can they not?

Intentional design or not, it sure as heck doesn't look very realistic does it.

Its not intentional. What's shown here is what Pro-tak is meant to rectify. Maybe pro-tak is not turned on???

[MJenness]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

Its not intentional. What's shown here is what Pro-tak is meant to rectify. Maybe pro-tak is not turned on???

Do you seriously think they'd take their game to E3 with what was touted as being a "gamechanging addition" turned off??

face it, more or less, what you see now is what you're gonna' get in August...always is every year, unfortunately.

[RaiderKtulu]

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Its not intentional. What's shown here is what Pro-tak is meant to rectify. Maybe pro-tak is not turned on???

Why would it not be turned on? It's kind of a major part of the game isn't it? You can't even call it defensive user error since the user was controlling the player holding Bush up while the CPU defenders bounced off. Something ain't right there.

[Exonerated]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

Pro-tak isn't working I guess. Because the design choice is definitely not to have players unable to join tackles.

It may be broken in this build. Who knows?

[davep]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

I can't stand watching Reggie Bush bounce off 3 defenders, but you guys do realize this is an intentional design of the game by the devs and not an example of how the "engine" is broken, right?

Ian was on here last year promoting pro-tak and was talking about not wanting a play to be over until the runner was down. He used this video as an example of what he was shooting for...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ILs1ALU3O0

By the by, it'd be great to have a replay angle like that instead of so close you can't tell what's going on around the ball carrier.