Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

[o Mass Murda o]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

Its not intentional. What's shown here is what Pro-tak is meant to rectify. Maybe pro-tak is not turned on???

then that would mean it wasnt turned on in madden 10 or the ncaa 11 demo. thats the invisible forcefield that happens every play where ppl are engaged and nobody else can "enter" the interaction so they bounce off and fall to the ground. this is the norm for EA's interaction...protak is actually the anomaly where it allows ppl to join. and now that theyve turned it down even further as evident in ncaa11 demo...this forcefield bouncing off stuff is the main thing even more.

[Exonerated]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

then that would mean it wasnt turned on in madden 10 or the ncaa 11 demo. thats the invisible forcefield that happens every play where ppl are engaged and nobody else can "enter" the interaction so they bounce off and fall to the ground. this is the norm for EA's interaction...protak is actually the anomaly where it allows ppl to join. and now that theyve turned it down even further as evident in ncaa11 demo...this forcefield bouncing off stuff is the main thing even more.

To clarify, I'm saying pro-tak is not working like it its conceptualised.

[KG]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

To clarify, I'm saying pro-tak is not working like it its conceptualised.

Exactly.

It has everything to do with the fact that Pro-Tak as currently implemented does not activate on a consistent basis.

[o Mass Murda o]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

To clarify, I'm saying pro-tak is not working like it its conceptualised.

Exactly.

It has everything to do with the fact that Pro-Tak as currently implemented does not activate on a consistent basis.

well then in either case, it NEVER has. this happens all the time in madden 10 and also in the ncaa 11 demo and as seen in these madden 11 vids. its a shame cuz theyve toned it down even further as i said in ncaa11. i was truly hoping with more time to tune protak up in this full dev cycle, the forcefield stuff would be minimalized. i guess i have big dreams haha!

[TombSong]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

Pro-Tak is garbage. Its nothing more than a animation trigger. Once the 2 player protak or 3 player protak animations starts, you cannot add on to it yourself or influence it in any meaningful way. It just plays out however the dice roll plays it out.

The running looks ugly and unnatural. I am having a hard time understanding how anyone that worked on the game can look at that and find it acceptable to release. 20+ years of football, and this is where we are. The running animations remind me of how the players moved in Intellivision football, except instead of in 2D its in 3D.

I thought they had this magic animation tool that was suppose to make all the animations trigger right, look right, whatever ?

[o Mass Murda o]

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I thought they had this magic animation tool that was suppose to make all the animations trigger right, look right, whatever ?

that was for catches only...the "catch debugging tool" and that is one thing that they have actually now nailed 100% judging from ncaa11 demo. no more stupid catch animations happening at all the wrong times and making u run backwards or leave ur feet every catch and the likes. u can now hit ppl in stride like ur supposed to and sideline catches work beautifully and trigger as they should.

[walliworld]

The motion looks better, in terms of leg movement, but it look like he never really made contact with the ground. He just kind of slid all the way to the endzone. Weird.

Thank you!!! I thought I was the one that noticed. It's the same in Ncaa 11,,, it's like they are on a flat grid instead of grass or turf, not even connected

[acreyman]

He is just running mad cause K. Kardashian is dating Miles Austin. He is suddenly a power back.

[Valdarez]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

One guy's holding Bush, 3 other guys dive at him and.... nothing happens, no impact, nothing. It's like they aren't there. Quality stuff. 6 years after the release of (other gamer) and Madden still doesn't have secondary impacts. That would be a pretty play if not for the limitations in the tackle / incidental contact mechanism of Madden that has been solved by every other major football title.

[KensaiKatai]

Collision detection is STILL broken!?!?!

[tigerbothesh23]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

Thank you!!! I thought I was the one that noticed. It's the same in Ncaa 11,,, it's like they are on a flat grid instead of grass or turf, not even connected

I usually don't comment on things like this, but man, he's just gliding over the ground, his legs are moving but there really doesn't seem to be any contact. very strange, it just looks really weird and off putting. To me it looks like the tweaks to locomotion have made the skating look more apparent, not less.

[KensaiKatai]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

I usually don't comment on things like this, but man, he's just gliding over the ground, his legs are moving but there really doesn't seem to be any contact. very strange, it just looks really weird and off putting.

did you guys watch chris johnson run in last years game?! it's the guys with full speed in madden as far as i can tell... instead of seemingly 'looking' faster then the rest of the game the game goes into weird slide glitch stutter mode whenever the 99 speed 99 acceleration guys are on a breakaway.

[PJ33]

What is this tecmo super bowl where you wrestle a guy while everybody bounces off you like bo jackson?
Then you get to ice skate to the endzone? Horrible looking video!!!! might be skipping a year for the first time ever.

[tigerbothesh23]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

did you guys watch chris johnson run in last years game?! it's the guys with full speed in madden as far as i can tell... instead of seemingly 'looking' faster then the rest of the game the game goes into weird slide glitch stutter mode whenever the 99 speed 99 acceleration guys are on a breakaway.

I actually haven't played Madden on this generation of consoles. I have played head coach, but that's it in terms of football from EA. I follow it every year in hopes that franchise will be in a good place but have yet to be impressed enough to make a purchase. That's why I usually don't comment on these types of things, I'm not really as concerned with them as I am with franchise. But this video just looked really off to me.

[PolkHigh33]

Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Don't Kick It To Reggie Bush (OS @ E3)

The tackling needs a complete overhaul.

Agreed .. still feels like the same old ..

They need some new animations in there to spruce it up ..