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  • TreyIM2
    MVP
    • Apr 2009
    • 1424

    #76
    Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

    Originally posted by Netherscourge
    So why should anyone spend $59.99 on a game that won't be close to what most people want for another 2 or 3 years?
    Like I one of the things I said - Don't buy it. Black Sheep said it best, "The choice is YOOOUURRSSS!!"

    Originally posted by KensaiKatai
    Actually no, that's EXACTLY what they told us they'd fix and not even for madden 11 in fact but madden 10.

    Ian Cummings said in a promotional video that the tackling animations would not be CANNED. and that Pro-tak would add realistic physics, etc. etc.

    I'm not in here complaining for my health, I hate to complain. but it is what it is. We as consumers are being mislead at this point, that in itself is a whole 'nother argument. I'd rather just stick to the game at hand. And considering how much I love the NFL buying another game isn't really an option for me...You should really try and get off your high horse.

    I tried to explain i'm not trying to bash madden at all, just expressing my frustration, and this is the first year i've ever done so. So please refrain from the "go away, blah blah, etc." my opinion is just as entitled as yours.
    As for you, I would need that vid because I don't recall Ian ever saying that and never have I heard a complaint about Ian saying that and it never coming to fruition. Not saying it's not out there but I remember much of what was said not only going into this Madden but into Madden 10, as well. I KNOW some things weren't produced as once was foretold but I really don't remember Ian saying canned animations were a thing of the past.

    As for your high horse remark, there is nothing "high horse" about what I said, at all. I spoke specifically about complaints about things that were never said would be fixed for THIS Madden. I could see if EA SPECIFICALLY spoke on improving/fixing/removing those particular things for THIS Madden but they didn't so complaining about them, the way people have been overly doing, as if EA DID say they would be taken care of is not valid to me. I can see if people see the blocking is still completely broken and complain about that because EA said on MULTIPLE occasions that it's been completely re-wrote and fixed. That would be very valid to complain about.

    Maybe I come at this with the understanding that the game's base engine/code is OLD and limited so I know they can't fix everything using this engine and I don't get all bent out of shape when I see some of the same things happening. I realized that after Madden 09, and that's why I mentioned what I did about the engine in my remarks.
    Not only do I come with the understanding of the tech, I also come with the understanding that EA has been getting pounded with TONS of complaints ABOUT THE SAME THINGS OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND...I'm sure they are well documented on EA's side
    Just cuz you pour syrup on ish....

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    • Meast21Forever
      Pro
      • Feb 2009
      • 769

      #77
      Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

      Originally posted by Jimixiii
      i'm not reading all that! LOL, but i skimmed thru it and i'm sorry , i'm sorry my opinion means so much to you that you needed to type 3 paragraphs about how you don't like that fact that me & many others see this game still has a serious tackling issue which therefore affects a great portion of the game play. there's a lot more people that feel exact same way. we're on a Madden forum were opinions are made, i hope you get over it soon buddy.
      you truly are a moron. i understand reading more than 100 words is a bit beyond your ability, so i'll try to keep this short. had you read my post, you would've noted that i care very little about your opinion. and i never said that there is anything wrong with expressing one's opinion. this is a forum for discussion. you expressed yours. i expressed mine.

      obviously there are issues in the game. but there are also good things about the game. a lot of people (such as yourself) come on this forum to only gripe and complain about the game, where people such as myself, come here for positive updates and discussion about the GAME. not how different the game is from real life.

      i'm not going to argue with you because reading clearly isn't your strong suit. let me sum it up at the end here so you get my point because you inevitably skipped the majority of my post: you keep whining. you keep focusing on the negative things in the game. those of us who play the game for its entertainment value will be off enjoying ourselves come august. while you sit on your mom's computer griping about how awful the game is an how fantastic 2k5 is.

      and don't call me buddy.
      "I hope that someday we will be able to put way our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." Jack Handy

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      • bucky60
        Banned
        • Jan 2008
        • 3288

        #78
        Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

        Originally posted by TreyIM2
        Like I one of the things I said - Don't buy it. Black Sheep said it best, "The choice is YOOOUURRSSS!!"
        It is a choice, but that's not much of a choice. EA and the Exclusive License made sure there wasn't much of a choice.


        Originally posted by TreyIM2
        I spoke specifically about complaints about things that were never said would be fixed for THIS Madden. I could see if EA SPECIFICALLY spoke on improving/fixing/removing those particular things for THIS Madden but they didn't so complaining about them, the way people have been overly doing, as if EA DID say they would be taken care of is not valid to me.
        Old Engine has absolutely nothing to do with lack of franchise and franchise flaws. We did have EA/Tib tell us that the Head Coach guy would be working on Franchise for 11, but that obviously got put off to the side. Still, whether they said they would work on it or not, franchise is still no anywhere near what it was in last gen. They have had 6 years to put a good franchise in. There is NO excuse for that and it is a valid complaint.

        Current Engine limitations have NOTHING to do with Franchise and other features. If the Engine is so broken and limited that they could not do anything with it over the last 6 years, then what have they been doing? other than removing a bunch of things that were in the game on the PC and last gen?

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        • Meast21Forever
          Pro
          • Feb 2009
          • 769

          #79
          Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

          Originally posted by bucky60
          Current Engine limitations have NOTHING to do with Franchise and other features. If the Engine is so broken and limited that they could not do anything with it over the last 6 years, then what have they been doing? other than removing a bunch of things that were in the game on the PC and last gen?
          Can you post a link with updates or lack thereof of franchise updates? I haven't heard any news about it.
          "I hope that someday we will be able to put way our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." Jack Handy

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          • bucky60
            Banned
            • Jan 2008
            • 3288

            #80
            Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

            Originally posted by Meast21Forever
            obviously there are issues in the game. but there are also good things about the game. a lot of people (such as yourself) come on this forum to only gripe and complain about the game, where people such as myself, come here for positive updates and discussion about the GAME.

            you keep whining. you keep focusing on the negative things in the game. those of us who play the game for its entertainment value will be off enjoying ourselves come august.
            I stripped things down and took out your snide comments.

            Your happy with the game, that's great. I'm not telling you to dislike it. I'm not telling you to not buy it. If your happy with a greatly stripped down, and somewhat flawed game, then more power to you. I'm not.

            I think it's a shame that the current Madden isn't even up to where NFL Video games were 6+ years ago. I want them to add back the features they took out. This game should be A LOT farther than what it is. It's really that simple.

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            • bucky60
              Banned
              • Jan 2008
              • 3288

              #81
              Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

              Originally posted by Meast21Forever
              Can you post a link with updates or lack thereof of franchise updates? I haven't heard any news about it.
              They talked about it last year, about this time, when they were going through what was going to be in 10. I don't have a link. And it really doesn't matter. They removed a feature that was in 6+ years ago and replaced it with a minimalistic and flawed mode. There is no excuse for that.

              EDIT: I'm glad you enjoy it (Madden). I'm not against you enjoying it.

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              • Meast21Forever
                Pro
                • Feb 2009
                • 769

                #82
                Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

                i wasn't really talking to you. i was talking to.. some dude with a bunch of iii's in his name that i can't remember.

                but i'm glad you're not against me enjoying the game. i don't play madden anymore, cause i'm a skins fan and the team is so different now. it always gets to that point in the offseason. just waiting on ncaa. i don't play the game for perfect cpu interaction or graphics or presentation. i play it because it's the nfl. that's why ea got the exclusive license. suckers like me i guess

                i just wanted a link because i thought maybe there was franchise info from this years madden that i hadn't heard that maybe you were basing your argument on.
                "I hope that someday we will be able to put way our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." Jack Handy

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                • Maelstrom-XIII
                  Pro
                  • Apr 2009
                  • 835

                  #83
                  Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

                  Phil Frazier posted a blog on the Madden site stating that there would be no significant changes to Franchise this year...they're looking into an overhaul for Madden 12. I don't have a link at the moment, but it's on the Madden site. Just minor tweaking.

                  I'm not sure if that's what you were looking for...if you're looking for a list of franchise updates throughout the years, that's not that.

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                  • Meast21Forever
                    Pro
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 769

                    #84
                    Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

                    Originally posted by Maelstrom-XIII
                    Phil Frazier posted a blog on the Madden site stating that there would be no significant changes to Franchise this year...they're looking into an overhaul for Madden 12. I don't have a link at the moment, but it's on the Madden site. Just minor tweaking.
                    really? wow. that's disappointing.
                    "I hope that someday we will be able to put way our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." Jack Handy

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                    • bucky60
                      Banned
                      • Jan 2008
                      • 3288

                      #85
                      Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

                      Originally posted by Meast21Forever
                      i don't play madden anymore, cause i'm a skins fan and the team is so different now.
                      Now, I'm excited about this upcoming NFL season cause my Packers have a chance to be a pretty good team this year. That's one of the things that so disappointing about Madden's lack of franchise, and/or franchise flaws. And why I'm a little displeased that there is no competition. Cause this would be a good year for me to have an NFL Licensed game.


                      I think you can understand my frustration. If there would have been another NFL Licensed game out there, I would be on there site trying to get info. But Madden is the only choice I would have.

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                      • Meast21Forever
                        Pro
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 769

                        #86
                        Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

                        Originally posted by bucky60
                        Now, I'm excited about this upcoming NFL season cause my Packers have a chance to be a pretty good team this year. That's one of the things that so disappointing about Madden's lack of franchise, and/or franchise flaws. And why I'm a little displeased that there is no competition. Cause this would be a good year for me to have an NFL Licensed game.


                        I think you can understand my frustration. If there would have been another NFL Licensed game out there, I would be on there site trying to get info. But Madden is the only choice I would have.
                        Definitely man. I'm pretty frustrated as well. Especially reading about this:
                        Through a blog EA Sports has stated that the career modes including Franchise, Online Franchise, and Superstar are due for complete re-writes but that will not be coming in Madden 11. The modes will largely be unchanged from last year. Franchise mode has some minor tweaks but Online Franchise and Superstar won't see much if


                        I was really excited about the Head Coach guy joining the team. Real bummer. The most frustrating thing is the features they added are more mass appeal, back of the box type things. Gameflow is something I won't use. Simple as that. I call my own plays. I don't care if my games statistically lasts longer than other peoples. What are the other features? Co-op with three people instead of 1? Really? That's a years worth of work. I like the whole locomotion/body lean thing that's in NCAA and Madden this year, but that's not enough. Hardly an update.

                        EDIT: That said, I'll still buy the game. Cause I enjoy it. I've enjoyed it since 07. It's been lacking, sure, but I still enjoy the game. I buy it cause I love it. It's that simple
                        "I hope that someday we will be able to put way our fears and prejudices and just laugh at people." Jack Handy

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                        • Aggies7
                          All Star
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 9495

                          #87
                          Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

                          Does not look like a good simulation of the NFL. Look like an arcade game. I am usually hyped for Madden but I don't know this year
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                          • econoodle
                            MVP
                            • Sep 2009
                            • 4884

                            #88
                            Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

                            Originally posted by joejccva71
                            Perfection?!?! We will settle for above average at this point but can't even get that.

                            This video along with the Reggie Bush video is RIDICULOUS. Nothing has changed in terms of ice skating, flats being abused, ridiculous plays, 128382 broken tackles for a QB...nothing.

                            I mean cmon EA, if you are going to resort to putting out a game like this after yet another year of development then I truly question the talent of the EA Tiburon development team, and I question the decision making of the EA Tiburon management team.

                            I'm sorry but as customers we don't have to settle for garbage product. These videos look horrible.

                            There's my constructive criticism.
                            are you the resident whiner for each Madden thread?

                            in any event..

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                            • bucky60
                              Banned
                              • Jan 2008
                              • 3288

                              #89
                              Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

                              Originally posted by Meast21Forever
                              EDIT: That said, I'll still buy the game. Cause I enjoy it. I've enjoyed it since 07. It's been lacking, sure, but I still enjoy the game. I buy it cause I love it. It's that simple
                              Fair enough.

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                              • sois
                                Banned
                                • Nov 2007
                                • 1900

                                #90
                                Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Tim Tebow Highlights (OS @ E3)

                                Originally posted by TreyIM2
                                Like I one of the things I said - Don't buy it. Black Sheep said it best, "The choice is YOOOUURRSSS!!"


                                I really don't get this type of comment. We're all sports fans over here (said in a Jersey accent). Did you sit without opinion on the Jets starting QB situation from 04 to 07 or so?

                                Sports fans, in their nature, want changes when things are bad. That's why we all love the draft, it is a beacon of hope. Ironically, Madden 11 elected to neglect that crucial aspect of being a sports fan by leaving franchise mode broken.

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