UFC Undisputed 2010 Patch Available For PS3 Users Only, 360 Users Have to Wait

[feedthehorse28]

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They break the game.

Basically I could have the worst guy on the ground say KIMBO SLICE for example. You could have Big Nog or Frank Mir. You could have top control and I could reverse you and take top control basically when ever I want. It is based ZERO on stats and just purely timing. Now with the auto transiton block, everyone just spams reversals and it becomes comical. Watching a horrible ground fighter such as Kimbo reverse world class BJJ guys at will is insane stupid

Stupidest thing in the game, even beats out the horrible stamina.

I miss the ground game from 09 so much.

I would run through most opponents online once the fight got to the ground, but every once in awhile I'd find someone else who knew what they were doing and boy once that happened, it was ON. It really was a chess match on the ground. You had to know when to block, when to punch, when to transition and when to go for a reversal. I remember one guy in particular who was using an Aoki CAF and we had three fights in a row cause we both were having so much fun just grappling for three rounds. Now that might be boring for some but for the hardcore fans, or at least for me, that was way more exciting than spamming punches and seeing who could get a knockout first Rock 'em Sock 'em Robots-style.

But, it was too difficult to just pick up and play so they had to do auto-block for the casual gamers and automatic reversals and ruined the game like you said.

[jeremym480]

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I don't guess I'll be downloading this patch for awhile. I still want to create a couple of decent fighters.

[jerk]

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Gesh, still takes FOREVER to find a match online....

[Pistolero]

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Good to hear on some of the changes, but I would've at least liked a little improving on the flask KO. Gets me really annoyed when im winning a fight easily then all the sudden...BOOM.. out cold.

[mgoblue]

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Good to hear on some of the changes, but I would've at least liked a little improving on the flask KO. Gets me really annoyed when im winning a fight easily then all the sudden...BOOM.. out cold.

I'm sure that annoys real UFC fighters too lol Chuck was doing pretty well against Franklin then BOOM

I do know that Flash KO's are too prevalent, but just had to joke

[Hiro1]

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Beating reversals!!

I have no problem beating guys spamming reverses. The trick is to not transition in one full motion.. every time. Break it into two different motions. Once you hold the right stick in a certain direction you will notice your fighter prepare for his transition(you can opt to hold this for however long you want or until your opponent tries to transition). At this point many online opponents will spam reverse flicking, the twitch is a dead giveaway. Next continue and finish w/ your transition by rotating you stick to either a minor or major transition. As long as you avoid his 1st initial reverse flick he will never successfully reverse you spamming.

[DavonBrown]

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unfortunatelysand this won't change. It is a design decision and they won't remove it. I think the reverse system should be completely removed.

I think I will ban reversals in league games.

As much as I hate reversals, I think that would be unfair since transition blocking doesn't really work this year.

[Hiro1]

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I expct to see a gigantic drop-off in people using Shogun Rua haha

[Illustrator76]

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So is it true that Flash KO's are NOT getting fixed in this patch? If not, are they getting fixed at all? If the answer to both of those questions is no, then I am trading this game in. I have over 80 fights so far and 87% of them have ended by KO and the other 13% by TKO. I got so mad over a flash KO earlier that I almost threw my controller; this game in its current state angers and frustrates me to no end. THQ should be ashamed of this Flash KO debacle (among other issues), something so simple that a slider could have fixed is one of the main catalysts why people are getting rid of this game left and right.

[MC Fatigue]

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They screwed up with the CAF stats thing. The only fun I was really having was creating fighters with crazy stats and trying to beat them. Now I apparently won't be able to do that anymore.

[ManiacMatt1782]

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unfortunatelysand this won't change. It is a design decision and they won't remove it. I think the reverse system should be completely removed.

I think I will ban reversals in league games.

reversals arent the problem its the rapid flicking that mcfatigue went off about in a different thread. good players know how avoid reversals. phobia i know you know about the delayed transitions, you used a couple on me. i still reversed you a couple times but thats because i timed it, and didnt do the rapid flick twitch reversal, which is annoying as hell, but those losers also give themselves away. wait to see them twitch and transition through. they need to add a lockout or give reversals an animation and cause them to use stamina if they fail. on top of that, they need to remove the autoblock, this way if you try to reverse and miss, you lose position. give some risk to the reversal.

[COMMISSIONERHBK9]

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has anyone try to submit people. i just try with machinda and idk i still cant submit. maybe im doing something wrong.what is you guys thoughts?

[ManiacMatt1782]

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Beating reversals!!

I have no problem beating guys spamming reverses. The trick is to not transition in one full motion.. every time. Break it into two different motions. Once you hold the right stick in a certain direction you will notice your fighter prepare for his transition(you can opt to hold this for however long you want or until your opponent tries to transition). At this point many online opponents will spam reverse flicking, the twitch is a dead giveaway. Next continue and finish w/ your transition by rotating you stick to either a minor or major transition. As long as you avoid his 1st initial reverse flick he will never successfully reverse you spamming.

as i stated in the post before this a truly good player can still reverse you if he times it on the 2nd movement. what i do against people who are real good is feint transitions. meaning start it, let it go, start it let it go start it, and then delay slightly and then roll through. i might get blocked, but no rapid stick flicker or someone who never transitions and only reverses will beat me with those tactics. but i'm not a king at reversals i get transitioned on. but i also dont resort to cheap tactics to pull off a reversal and i attempt my own transitions as well and can usually pass with ease before a stand-up.

[Salhus]

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Hows that feel 360 guys? Now you know the pain us PS3 guys go through with every thing else that gets released late to us.

Suck on that!!

[Phobia]

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Beating reversals!!

I have no problem beating guys spamming reverses. The trick is to not transition in one full motion.. every time. Break it into two different motions. Once you hold the right stick in a certain direction you will notice your fighter prepare for his transition(you can opt to hold this for however long you want or until your opponent tries to transition). At this point many online opponents will spam reverse flicking, the twitch is a dead giveaway. Next continue and finish w/ your transition by rotating you stick to either a minor or major transition. As long as you avoid his 1st initial reverse flick he will never successfully reverse you spamming.

I have zero problem doing reversals and preventing them to the most they can be prevented. That is not my beef. It is the simple fact that if you are good enough with the system. The worst ground fighter in UFC history can become a BJJ master. That completely goes against having stats in the game for other things. If stats mean nothing on the ground for reversals why have them for anything else.

As much as I hate reversals, I think that would be unfair since transition blocking doesn't really work this year.

Yea I did not even think about the damn 3 transitions you are out. I have not seen a 3 transition out in so long. 90% of ground matchs have a reversal before one of the fighters makes it to 3 transitions. Another STUPID addition

reversals arent the problem its the rapid flicking that mcfatigue went off about in a different thread. good players know how avoid reversals. phobia i know you know about the delayed transitions, you used a couple on me. i still reversed you a couple times but thats because i timed it, and didnt do the rapid flick twitch reversal, which is annoying as hell, but those losers also give themselves away. wait to see them twitch and transition through. they need to add a lockout or give reversals an animation and cause them to use stamina if they fail. on top of that, they need to remove the autoblock, this way if you try to reverse and miss, you lose position. give some risk to the reversal.

as i stated in the post before this a truly good player can still reverse you if he times it on the 2nd movement. what i do against people who are real good is feint transitions. meaning start it, let it go, start it let it go start it, and then delay slightly and then roll through. i might get blocked, but no rapid stick flicker or someone who never transitions and only reverses will beat me with those tactics. but i'm not a king at reversals i get transitioned on. but i also dont resort to cheap tactics to pull off a reversal and i attempt my own transitions as well and can usually pass with ease before a stand-up.

Yea Matt, you know i understand the ground game completely. Faking transitions, delayed transitions, etc. I am not a rapid flick reverser. I reverse only by a single well timed flick. I find it way more successful than rapid flickers. Cause like you said, you can see when they flick and transition between flicks.

Like I said above. It is not the reversals that are the problem to me. I think in 09 it was good, not great but good. It was still based to much on user skill rather than factoring in the fighters ability. My big issue with the system is how it is based ZERO off of stats. I would not mind at all if I saw Frank Mir reverse me, I expect it actually on the ground. But when you take Kimbo Slice vs Mir and you can reverse a noob at will. It just throws the whole realism, stat rating system out the window.