NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

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  • khaliib
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    • Jan 2005
    • 2884

    #46
    I hope fatigue plays a real role in player's on-field performance if they are tired. I always turn the player sub-out to 0 for OL, QB because those guys do not sub no matter how tired they are.

    I wish there was "Progressive" fatigue in the game.

    They should show player exchange on both sides of the ball.

    I wonder what affect will the Aggressive Tempo + Playcall Aggressiveness (TB slider) have on a team?

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    • ODogg
      Hall Of Fame
      • Feb 2003
      • 37953

      #47
      Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

      Progressive fatigue is something I've been barking about for years and yet EA seems to completely ignore.
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      • dan_457
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        • Jan 2010
        • 4106

        #48
        Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

        What exactly is "progressive" fatigue?
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        • Lavar
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          • Jul 2009
          • 233

          #49
          Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

          There is a difference between a 2 minute offense and a no hurdle offense. Two minute offense is trying to get down field as quickly as possible thus saving time.
          The no-huddle offense is usually employed as part of a hurry-up offense, BUT it is not necessarily an attempt to snap the ball quicker. Rather, the lack of huddle allows the offense to threaten to snap the ball quickly, denying the defending team time to substitute players and communicate effectively between coaches and players.

          Anyone who has watched college ball will see that Mizz no huddle but then turn to the sideline to receive orders, then bark out some calls at the line then snap. I was kind of hoping to see a animation of QB's turning to the sidelines to do this.

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          • ODogg
            Hall Of Fame
            • Feb 2003
            • 37953

            #50
            Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

            dan_457 - as it is now you can make your guys as tired as anything, on a long, long drive...abusing the heck out of your WRs and QB and etc....they will be red and even at some point replaced. Then the very next series when they come back on the field everyone is 100% green and 100% refreshed. Unlike in a real game, riding the pine for a few minutes doesn't make you 100% again.

            Progressive fatigue is when your players get tired in two ways, one is immediate, and that can be recovered quickly...by taking a play off or whatever...but the second would be incremental fatigue...in other words get your QB tired by running constantly and by the middle of the third quarter he's constantly yellow and maybe constantly red, depending upon the guy.

            To put it quite simply, at the start of the 4th quarter when you go to a play call screen, before any play at all is run we should be seeing some light yellows, some dark yellows and maybe even a red labeled player here and there. Not only would this be better for the gameplay all around, it would lend a big heaping of realism to schools and individual players that are better conditioned as well.
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            • ODogg
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              • Feb 2003
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              #51
              Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

              Lavar - he does turn towards the sidelines in the video.
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              • seawolves9
                Rookie
                • Dec 2006
                • 346

                #52
                Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

                As said by some already, the players need to turn to the sidelines to get the play on every play during the no-huddle, not just when you use a formation audible.. Those are the only times I've seen them look anyways.

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                • dan_457
                  MVP
                  • Jan 2010
                  • 4106

                  #53
                  Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

                  Ah okay, thanks for the explanation. The only thing is that, I feel like there is some small degree of this, or something of the sort. I remember last year that there would be times players wouldn't come back into the game if you set the Auto-Sub percentage high enough, which means that a players overall stamina % cap, has to be dropping to some degree right? But either way it's definitely not implemented correctly though.
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                  • IndyColts2
                    Banned
                    • Mar 2009
                    • 570

                    #54
                    Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

                    Originally posted by jello1717
                    You have your entire playbook available to you during no huddle, as does the defense.
                    only when you run to the line. Real no huddle offenses no huddle automatically and then have whatever plays they want from the sidelines. They dont just have four formation audibles and four regular audibles. They have all plays from that formation.

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                    • UTAllTheWay
                      Pro
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 643

                      #55
                      Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

                      Progressive fatigue is another one of those fundamental aspects of football that's been missing from Current-Gen ncaa football games. I really wish they would put it in soon.

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                      • jello1717
                        All Star
                        • Feb 2006
                        • 5721

                        #56
                        Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

                        Originally posted by IndyColts2
                        only when you run to the line. Real no huddle offenses no huddle automatically and then have whatever plays they want from the sidelines. They dont just have four formation audibles and four regular audibles. They have all plays from that formation.
                        It doesn't sound like you understood me. In NCAA '11 (including the demo) both offense and defense have their entire playbooks to choose from while doing the no huddle. They don't just have 4 formation audibles and 4 normal audibles. All plays from all (except probably special teams) formations. You mentioned "They have all plays from that formation." In NCAA '11's no huddle offense, it goes 1 step further. Not only do you have every play from that formation available, you have every play from every other formation available. The only thing missing from what I quoted is that you have to push the "y" button every time instead of having it automatic.
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                        • BamaBruce
                          Banned
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 957

                          #57
                          Re: New No Huddle Offense Blog

                          Originally posted by ODogg
                          Maybe they keep looking to the sidelines wondering WTF are the coaches?????
                          HAHAHA, coming from you, I'd have expected something more like "wondering why their dreads fell off before the game" :P

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                          • BamaBruce
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                            • Nov 2009
                            • 957

                            #58
                            Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

                            Originally posted by Bruce Wayne Jr
                            because jamarcus russell and jake delhome's lines would cause the game to slow down to much


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                            • LionsFanNJ
                              All Star
                              • Apr 2006
                              • 9464

                              #59
                              Re: NCAA Football 11 Blog: No Huddle Offense

                              Originally posted by Big Blue
                              im glad they have the look to the sideline animations in the full game because they didnt in the demo.
                              It was actually.

                              Edit: Also noticed Rutgers is one of the no huddle teams. Sweet.
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                              • NDFan1029
                                Rookie
                                • Apr 2010
                                • 131

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Segagendude
                                Stupid newbie question:

                                In the OU vids, why are the preplay routes squiggly? Noticed this in the demo; thought it might be a glitch. Thanks...
                                It's supposed to be the "intimidation factor" the home field advantage puts on the away team.

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