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  • bxgoods
    Pro
    • May 2009
    • 538

    #91
    Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

    Originally posted by mojo6911
    I guess it is all in the eye of the beholder. I see exactly what you see. He is on a full sprint in one direction towards the RB in the flat, not even looking at the ball, then stops,turns around about 170* to the left, and takes 3 steps and jumps higher than Michael Jordan perfect in position to catch the ball. Gimme a break. You can't turn your back to the ball (if he ever saw it to begin with) and time a jump to be in perfect position to intercept it like that.

    Here are some real life examples:

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    Notice he is looking in the backfield the whole time and is already square to the ball.

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    This looks similar to the animation, but notice the CB doesn't change direction. He running the same direction the whole time and there is a good 3 seconds from the time he turns his back to the ball to the time he picks it off. The key is that he switched directions BEFORE the ball was in flight, not after it is already out of the QB's hands.

    Revis was strafing with the RB out of the back field. You people act like Revis wasn't facing the QB at all.

    He could of easily of been looking at the QB with the corner of his eye.
    He's D'ing a RB, and he's an elite CB, do you honestly believe if that happened in real life, Revis would not be keeping his eye on both the RB and QB. And that side of the field was his assignment in a Zone Defense.
    Its not hard for an elite CB to make Michael Jordan Catches on a wobler from a QB. If the ball was a bullet and he made that catch I would be upset, but not on a floating duck.

    The only issue I have with the play is he turned the wrong direction, in real life, he wouldn't of done a 180 to make that catch. He would of just faced forward the whole time.

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    • BezO
      MVP
      • Jul 2004
      • 4414

      #92
      Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

      And I'm sure most don't read coverage like this in a video game, but I do. A nearby DB that is not aware of when the ball is thrown = not covered, especially if he's headed in the wrong direction. So I guess the ball awareness is more than a cosmetic issue for me, even with a DB playing zone. I've thrown many interceptions because the DB shouldn't have been aware of the ball in time to make a play.
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      • canes21
        Hall Of Fame
        • Sep 2008
        • 22923

        #93
        Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

        I keep rewatching it and I am just going to say you are not going to be able to change my opinion. Revis was playing a flat zone it looked like and stayed in his zone. Then once the ball was thrown, he took a whole second to get turned around, then another whole second to run and jump. Thats enough time to me. It may not have looked as pretty as possible, but that doesn't mean its unrealistic.

        If the ball wasn't a duck and Revis was sprinting full speed and then turned and made the catch, then I would be a bit upset. But when the pass is just wobbling through the air at a slow pace, its okay. Also, I have seen people talk about Revis' jump. Whats so unrealistic about it. It appears to me he is maybe 3 feet off the ground at the max. I'd say more lik 30 inches. Thats not really a lot for a NFL player to jump from a running start. I'd say 99% of college DB's can get 30+ inches on their vertical and thats taken from a standstill.
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        • Old Mr T
          Rookie
          • Aug 2008
          • 255

          #94
          Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

          Originally posted by canes21
          I keep rewatching it and I am just going to say you are not going to be able to change my opinion. Revis was playing a flat zone it looked like and stayed in his zone. Then once the ball was thrown, he took a whole second to get turned around, then another whole second to run and jump. Thats enough time to me. It may not have looked as pretty as possible, but that doesn't mean its unrealistic.

          If the ball wasn't a duck and Revis was sprinting full speed and then turned and made the catch, then I would be a bit upset. But when the pass is just wobbling through the air at a slow pace, its okay. Also, I have seen people talk about Revis' jump. Whats so unrealistic about it. It appears to me he is maybe 3 feet off the ground at the max. I'd say more lik 30 inches. Thats not really a lot for a NFL player to jump from a running start. I'd say 99% of college DB's can get 30+ inches on their vertical and thats taken from a standstill.
          I agree with you.

          It's Maddens so you've got to ignore the ugly physics to a degree. In relation to the throw, the outcome is fine with me.

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          • SA1NT401
            Banned
            • Sep 2007
            • 3498

            #95
            Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

            Vids does show (prove in my eyes) that locomotion is a MINOR variant added into the already weak player momentum system. I dont think it was that off, but locomotion just doesnt seem to do nearly enough for player physics as i expected. With that said, Revis shouldn have made a nice play and broken up the pass....or had to take an extra second to plant and then head up field probably getting tackled in the process.

            Sure, its not nearly as bad as some questionable stuff thus far....But it did look wacky to say the least.


            Why is the stadium 80% empty midway throught the 2nd qtr? That also seemed odd....maybe the concession stands were doing 75% off drafts...who knows?
            Last edited by SA1NT401; 06-24-2010, 04:44 PM.

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            • PVarck31
              Moderator
              • Jan 2003
              • 16869

              #96
              Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

              Originally posted by SincerelYourz
              no, revis does not run a 4.0/40...especially while running at an angle...with pads on...
              Take it easy there. I was under the assumption he was talking about game speed in general.
              Last edited by PVarck31; 06-24-2010, 04:53 PM.

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              • tlc12576
                Banned
                • Jun 2009
                • 666

                #97
                Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

                Originally posted by canes21
                I keep rewatching it and I am just going to say you are not going to be able to change my opinion. Revis was playing a flat zone it looked like and stayed in his zone. Then once the ball was thrown, he took a whole second to get turned around, then another whole second to run and jump. Thats enough time to me. It may not have looked as pretty as possible, but that doesn't mean its unrealistic.

                If the ball wasn't a duck and Revis was sprinting full speed and then turned and made the catch, then I would be a bit upset. But when the pass is just wobbling through the air at a slow pace, its okay. Also, I have seen people talk about Revis' jump. Whats so unrealistic about it. It appears to me he is maybe 3 feet off the ground at the max. I'd say more lik 30 inches. Thats not really a lot for a NFL player to jump from a running start. I'd say 99% of college DB's can get 30+ inches on their vertical and thats taken from a standstill.
                To throw my $.02 in late, I agree with canes, looks like a solid play by Revis. I would be more upset if he didnt make the play. I rewatched and slowed it down, it appears to me, the RB runs to the flat, Revis is following the RB after he enters Revis's zone and once the Rb breaksdown in front of Revis, Revis looks in the backfield, spots the wounded duck, turns upfield and jumps for the pick. Actually, that's good zone techniuqe, especially, on the goaline near the sideline. Revis's zone assignment was that area, so even if the RB brokedown to do a double move and turned upfield, that was another defenders area. (I actually think that's where the pass was intended to go, for the TE, in the corner of the endzone because the USER was controlling the player that should have been there). I have no comment on the TD return!LOL

                What do you guys think Revis should have done there, kept watching the RB and the ball just hit the ground? LOL

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                • Skyboxer
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                  • Jul 2002
                  • 20302

                  #98
                  Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

                  Originally posted by canes21


                  Thank you for letting me know who I am and who I am not.
                  I was saying you're were not seeing things....
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                  • shh
                    Rookie
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 56

                    #99
                    Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

                    Originally posted by TreyIM2
                    Agreed. I LIKE the right analog kicking. Feels more "realistic" and fits more into present day sports gaming. I hope there is an option to go back to analog.
                    People actually complained about the kicking being too complicated ?? Ea changed it... Back to 10 year's..
                    SHH

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                    • SincerelYourz
                      Pro
                      • Sep 2009
                      • 573

                      #100
                      Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

                      Originally posted by pjv31_OS
                      Take it easy there. I was under the assumption he was talking about game speed in general.
                      i'm easy.
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                      • canes21
                        Hall Of Fame
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 22923

                        #101
                        Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

                        Originally posted by Skyboxer
                        I was saying you're were not seeing things....
                        lol oops
                        “No one is more hated than he who speaks the truth.”


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                        • tehBomBthreat
                          Banned
                          • Apr 2010
                          • 50

                          #102
                          Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

                          First off all... You guys are crazii -_-

                          Second The ball was a drifter.. Revis left his man went to the ball. What's wrong with that? You guys are sounding crazy about momentum, Revis is athletic, he can do that -_-

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                          • tehBomBthreat
                            Banned
                            • Apr 2010
                            • 50

                            #103
                            Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

                            Also, the ball is only 5 yards away from where he is, he leaps from around the 3 or 2 yard line to catch the ball...

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                            • ODogg
                              Hall Of Fame
                              • Feb 2003
                              • 37953

                              #104
                              Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

                              Yeah, I agree tehBomBthreat - now if it was a bullet pass and he did that i'd be right there with the complainers but that was a hanging ball, of course I can see Revis doing just what he did in that clip...
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                              • bxgoods
                                Pro
                                • May 2009
                                • 538

                                #105
                                Re: Madden NFL 11 Video: Jets vs. Ravens - Revis Pick 6 (K0ACHK)

                                Originally posted by tehBomBthreat
                                First off all... You guys are crazii -_-

                                Second The ball was a drifter.. Revis left his man went to the ball. What's wrong with that? You guys are sounding crazy about momentum, Revis is athletic, he can do that -_-
                                I don't think they've seen Revis play on a week to week basis.

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