MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v.3

[strut24]

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when people "check the forums" don't you guys check at least a few posts beforehand to see if your questions have already been answered? Jasnake, do you need anything from me? I didnt do too many stances/motions but I can send them to you if you want em. Also, did you touch base with Hustlin to see his availability to do the FRANCHISE file for v4 (or v4.1 or whatever its called now hehe)

[LenmB]

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Quick advice for everyone: when there is no new topic there is no new roster.

And the new roster is not a right, but a gift from the community. So treat the makers with a bit respect. I think they earned that with the work they've did so YOU can play the game the way it's supposed to be played.

[Cubit]

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I don't think people are being disrespectful, they are just excited and anxious for the great roster these guys are making. The roster was announced to be released early this week and it has missed that time frame, so it is natural for people to be curious.

[abcabc]

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Correct, unless u want equipment/cosmetic edits which I plan on doing for v4 not 4.1. I can ball park an eta for those if v4 drops tonight at early next week.

i would love to see your edits... drop in w/ 4.1

release 4.0 first, and while 4.1 is being worked on with what 4.1 is supposed to get (pitcher stamina corrections) people may give feedback about various things after playtesting 4.0...

whomever is kind enough to append 4.0 after release, can also have this time to add fixes into the 4.1 release.

[abcabc]

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I'm a bit confused right now. What IS gonna be in V4 (V3+pitching and hitting edits?) and what ISN'T (stamina re-edits for the people - not me - who want that?).

Or to put it in another way: is this the roster to start a franchise with without feeling sorry when another version drops in?

Here's what Jasnake once said in April that he will add to this yrs' Knight's rosters:
last yr, if i recall he only edited batters.. this yr i think he's editing both batters and pitchers so the set is balanced.

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Hey all,
Sometime in December, myself and Thirddegree used Bahnzo's roster tools and applied re-rates to the majority of SCEA created players in the game (09-08-08).

Why? First, SCEA always has a tendency to "over"power players as well as give aging players a benefit of the doubt which their performance does not warrant. Sim numbers of uncontrolled teams in general were very unrealistic, players routinely hitting in the high 300's who never routinely did so, 60 homer seasons, obscene numbers of RBI's, pitchers numbers were terrible (CC with a 5 ERA almost being normal!). I sort of think it was done to make the in game experience more "gamer-friendly" (which this game is far from casual but everyone loves to hit homers in game myself included) but we want realism darn it LOL.

Instead of using the weighted method (an option in roster tools as well as how SCEA bases its system) which is a 3 year analysis which puts the onus on the last season, we calculated a true 3 year average (when applicable) of ratings. Again why? IMO (and others) what if a good player had an off year or was injured? His ratings would be severly affected due to this sometimes unfairly. 3 year averages put equal weight on each season which would "stabalize" the numbers in most cases. We also took into account players coming into their own (Aaron Hill is a prime example) and players in obvious decline (Ortiz) something that SCEA in their updates also was sort of shying away from.

In-game the feedback from that old set was positive but it wasnt broadly sampled as it was December when this was done and alot of poeple moved onto other games. A good number or doubles, triples, walks etc. A realistic number of homers. Things sort of settled out.

So we got Knights permission and we're preparing to add these to the full minors right after Razr gets his pitch edits in for those not interested in SCEA stock. A big question that I ask should I take this early part of the season into account or just base it off of 09-08-07? The best example is Vernon Wells whos last 3 years were less than desirable but is killing it now. The boosts will be in step with the rest of the ratings (you only rarely see a power rating in the 80's, think 50's and 60's believe me it works) but he for one would warrant a boost if anyone provides feedback to do such. Another big question is if thats what people want, who else should get obvious kick ups and downs that you could think of (someone mentioned Prado in another thread)?

Any feedback?
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and lastly..............

4.1 should get a re-edit of pitcher (starters only I believe) stamina ratings to stop some starters from tiring out completely (zero energy after like 80-90 pitches according to some people). last yrs rosters the staminas were also edited (they needed to be as right out of box, the starters could pitch over 100 pitches and still have something like half? their energy bar) and after editing they were very realistic after 100 pitches. this yr, on v3 the tweak didnt seem spot on to those of us pointing it out the past week, so v4.1 will revisit this attribute.

[TheRunAndShoot]

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i would love to see your edits... drop in w/ 4.1

release 4.0 first, and while 4.1 is being worked on with what 4.1 is supposed to get (pitcher stamina corrections) people may give feedback about various things after playtesting 4.0...

whomever is kind enough to append 4.0 after release, can also have this time to add fixes into the 4.1 release.

to me it doesn't seem like the stamina is a real problem. i rarely use full effort on a pitch and i've been using the stamina edits since mlb 08. v4 is the version that will give me the best gameplay experience so thats the version i'm using. franchise is screwed up anyways so what does some inflated stats really make franchise that much worse?

if they'd hold off on 4.1 for me to put my edits in that'd be fine but i doubt they want to hold up the process by as much as another week.

its getting hard b/c i keep planning for the rosters to drop every night so i push back schoolwork, and stuff at my job. so it could be even longer b/c i have almost a weeks worth of crap to do.

[TheRunAndShoot]

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and lastly..............

4.1 should get a re-edit of pitcher (starting only I believe) stamina ratings to stop starters from tiring out completely after like 80 pitches. last yrs rosters the staminas were also edited (they needed to be as right out of box, the starters could pitch over 100 pitches and still have something like half? their energy bar) and after editing they were very realistic after 100 pitches. this yr, on v3 the tweak didnt seem spot on to those of us pointing it out the past week, so v4.1 will revisit this attribute.

Are u using full power on ur pitches? I rarely do and I've never had that problem. I can get up to 110 pitches without it being much of a problem.

[abcabc]

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Are u using full power on ur pitches? I rarely do and I've never had that problem. I can get up to 110 pitches without it being much of a problem.

absolutely not.

i use classic pitching and just press the x. which team do you use, what pitchers do you use? it's not too low for every starter out there but it's unneccesarily low for too many of the starters, as others have posted as well.

i've tested w/ andy pettitte again and again, guy who we know in real life can do 110 pitches and still throw 90mph on hit heater. the only thing i didnt test is set up a 2 human player game, and just throw 90 pitches down the barrel and check the energy bar, or have the cpu control Andy.

[LenmB]

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Here's what Jasnake once said in April that he will add to this yrs' Knight's rosters:
last yr, if i recall he only edited batters.. this yr i think he's editing both batters and pitchers so the set is balanced

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Thank you for answering my question this way. This makes it clear for me that I'll be using V4 and if the staminas really bother me I just boost the stamina a notch myself. No problemo!

(kind of funny btw that Hill and Ortiz are mentioned in the post, b/c Ortiz is doing better than expected (since may) and Hill is ok on the power side but struggles to get above the Mendoza-line)

[TheRunAndShoot]

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absolutely not.

i use classic pitching and just press the x. which team do you use, what pitchers do you use? it's not too low for every starter out there but it's unneccesarily low for too many of the starters, as others have posted as well.

i've tested w/ andy pettitte again and again, guy who we know in real life can do 110 pitches and still through 90. the only thing i didnt test is set up a 2 human player game, and just throw 90 pitches down the barrel and check the energy bar, or have the cpu control Andy.

I use the meter and have used Felix, Lee, Snell, and Fister. Without a problem.

Could the problem be using classic pitching?

[strut24]

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hey JaSnake, check your PMs

[JaSnake16]

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OK Update: TD is finishing. He will probably be finished tonight late. He told me that he is very pleased with the results after ALOT of simming. The roster will be coming back to me afterwards for a minor look over and the defensive checks. I will not be able to do this until tommorrow afternoon, it should only take me an hour or two so tommorrow night looks 99% like it.

As far as 4.1, Strut has some updates that in an effort to get out V4 I will include in 4.1. Im gonna see how long TD needs on the stamina if he doesnt update you all first. I honestly do not think that its gonna take that long as the real hard part is done.

After that, Ill be happily playing this game.

[strut24]

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OK Update: TD is finishing. He will probably be finished tonight late. He told me that he is very pleased with the results after ALOT of simming. The roster will be coming back to me afterwards for a minor look over and the defensive checks. I will not be able to do this until tommorrow afternoon, it should only take me an hour or two so tommorrow night looks 99% like it.

As far as 4.1, Strut has some updates that in an effort to get out V4 I will include in 4.1. Im gonna see how long TD needs on the stamina if he doesnt update you all first. I honestly do not think that its gonna take that long as the real hard part is done.

After that, Ill be happily playing this game.

Thanks Ja! please make sure the new thread explains what exactly v4 is (in comparison to v4.1). There seems to be a lot of confusion. Also, please talk to HustlinOwl so we can release the FRANCHISE file at the same time as v4 and v4.1

[HustlinOwl]

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I'm game

[ajf718]

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Thanks Ja! please make sure the new thread explains what exactly v4 is (in comparison to v4.1). There seems to be a lot of confusion. Also, please talk to HustlinOwl so we can release the FRANCHISE file at the same time as v4 and v4.1

What about players that have been call up like marlins scott strickland and mike lamb any caps in v4.