NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

[TreyIM2]

Meh. Show us some gameplay.... and yes, yout game does look fantastic - however, the GAMEPLAY had better be up to snuff in order to really shine this year fella's.

The gameplay issue has been a strong issue of mine. THIS is what I want 2K to, uhh, get on the ball with. The cosmetics have ALWAYS been their best point with the game and it's nothing new for them to continue with that. They lost my dough, last year, because I got tired of the same gameplay. Some of us aren't into icing as much as we are the cake...and if a person doesn't follow suit with the others going ga-ga over the icing, then something is wrong with that person, right? Smh. I want to see if 2K can improve that cake batter enough to get me to give them my money, again.

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

Don't you guys get tired of complaining about lack of info from 2k in June, here is the fact we wont get anything until late August at the earliest, Live I mean Elite will hype up there game now and 2k will when it matters when the game is going to be released.

It's almost as if the world would end if they stopped complaining.

2k doesn't put out video, forum guys complain, video is released, forum guys complain, game is released, forum guys complain and demand a patch....

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Lawless66007]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

It's almost as if the world would end if they stopped complaining.

2k doesn't put out video, forum guys complain, video is released, forum guys complain, game is released, forum guys complain and demand a patch....

Wash, rinse, repeat.

You act like asking for video is a bad thing. Over the years it's been:

2K doesn't put out a video, forum guys complain, 2K doesn't release a video, forum guys complain, 2K releases video, forum guys praise, 2K releases game, forum complains about glitches and faults in the game.

But yet the other guys release videos and people find problems and then the creators answer back and fixes problems people have issues with. I mean we can't just sit and say "They'll do a good job, I trust them" because they haven't. What NBA 2K game have we played since 06 that we said "THAT WAS A GOOD GAME! That was worth the wait."? We need imput so we can give feedback. If we are loyal paying customers, we need to atleast know what the product looks like before we buy it. All we ask if for a little video just to see if they even took a step in the right direction. We're gonna complain ANYWAY. What's the difference between seeing video and not seeing video? Because when I comes down to it, not seeing video isn't helping anything.

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

You act like asking for video is a bad thing. Over the years it's been:

2K doesn't put out a video, forum guys complain, 2K doesn't release a video, forum guys complain, 2K releases video, forum guys praise, 2K releases game, forum complains about glitches and faults in the game.

LOL Not even close. Everyone gets their microscopes out, freeze frames the video and saves pictures. They dissect and complain.

This has been the case since I joined way back in '03.

[Lawless66007]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

LOL Not even close. Everyone gets their microscopes out, freeze frames the video and saves pictures. They dissect and complain.

This has been the case since I joined way back in '03.

LOL not really. I seen people praise that video of last year with Kobe Bryant giving that interview the Japanese news station and everybody was like "OHHH WOW IT'S LOOKS GOOD I CAN'T WAIT TO GET IT" and I was the like one of the only ones that was like "you don't see that sliding going on"? LOL. But even though they have to dissect it, they atleast can get a idea of how bad the game might be that way 2K knows what to fix. EA's over on the other side doing that right now as we speak.

[Gotmadskillzson]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

It wouldn't be OS if somebody on here didn't complain about something. People could have 10 videos a day on here and I guarantee somebody on here will complain and say well where is the demo ? I want the demo.

Then demo comes out, why the demo only 5 minutes ? Why only 2 teams on the demo ? Heck even on the NCAA 11 football demo, they had several teams on there and you had people complaining that their favorite school wasn't playable.

[Pared]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

It wouldn't be OS if somebody on here didn't complain about something. People could have 10 videos a day on here and I guarantee somebody on here will complain and say well where is the demo ? I want the demo.

Then demo comes out, why the demo only 5 minutes ? Why only 2 teams on the demo ? Heck even on the NCAA 11 football demo, they had several teams on there and you had people complaining that their favorite school wasn't playable.

LOL Exactly.

[NINJAK2]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

LOL not really. I seen people praise that video of last year with Kobe Bryant giving that interview the Japanese news station and everybody was like "OHHH WOW IT'S LOOKS GOOD I CAN'T WAIT TO GET IT" and I was the like one of the only ones that was like "you don't see that sliding going on"? LOL. But even though they have to dissect it, they atleast can get a idea of how bad the game might be that way 2K knows what to fix. EA's over on the other side doing that right now as we speak.

2k has been doing this for years regarding the release of info LawLess. I've learned they are not going to change. They release info when they are ready. I applaud EA for releasing info but I wouldn't hold anything against them if they wanted to wait longer before showing their product when it's in a more finished state. Some people were killing that Elite video of an obviously old build.

Unfortunately EA is in a position they aren't used to (2nd place for the last few years) and they have to inspire some consumers to take a look at their product much harder than 2k imo. The contender always has to work harder than the decorated champ if they eventually want the title. That's what EA is doing right now. The fight is in October though and not June.

[jfsolo]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

LOL not really. I seen people praise that video of last year with Kobe Bryant giving that interview the Japanese news station and everybody was like "OHHH WOW IT'S LOOKS GOOD I CAN'T WAIT TO GET IT" and I was the like one of the only ones that was like "you don't see that sliding going on"? LOL. But even though they have to dissect it, they atleast can get a idea of how bad the game might be that way 2K knows what to fix. EA's over on the other side doing that right now as we speak.

You should probably head back over to the Elite forum, where they have the good sense to listen to your sage advice, unlike these clueless mooks at 2K who have the unmitigated gall to gather intel using a slightly different methodology.

What is 2K thinking.

[Lawless66007]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

You should probably head back over to the Elite forum, where they have the good sense to listen to your sage advice, unlike these clueless mooks at 2K who have the unmitigated gall to gather intel using a slightly different methodology.

What is 2K thinking.

Don't get things twisted, I'm not an Live/Elite guy, I'm 2K. I just happen to see over there and they had info on the new Elite and I was suprised about how much in contact they are over there with the programmers. But I'm not talking about Elite because this is a 2K forum. But how is it that us asking for videos too much? Every year we never get a video and then when the game comes out we find all the problems and then start asking for patches. Don't you understand that if we don't catch it before the demo, asking for patches isn't gonna get resolved fast enough. And then we'll be sitting here 3 months at a time waiting for patches.

I just wanted to know why it was so bad to ask for atleast a video of something so that we know what we are getting. Yeah we know that the format isn't gonna change. But you also know that even though the format isn't gonna change the product gets worst. I'm hoping that 2K gets better. I'm not gonna dog 2K because I know what potential they have but it's not getting executed. You can't just do things on the fly and ignore the peoples demands. When we talk about certain glitches that are effecting the game, we want a video to prove that they atleast fixed it. Or else we'll be sitting here talking about the same glitches and same problems that the previous years had.

[jfsolo]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

Don't get things twisted, I'm not an Live/Elite guy, I'm 2K. I just happen to see over there and they had info on the new Elite and I was suprised about how much in contact they are over there with the programmers. But I'm not talking about Elite because this is a 2K forum. But how is it that us asking for videos too much? Every year we never get a video and then when the game comes out we find all the problems and then start asking for patches. Don't you understand that if we don't catch it before the demo, asking for patches isn't gonna get resolved fast enough. And then we'll be sitting here 3 months at a time waiting for patches.

I just wanted to know why it was so bad to ask for atleast a video of something so that we know what we are getting. Yeah we know that the format isn't gonna change. But you also know that even though the format isn't gonna change the product gets worst. I'm hoping that 2K gets better. I'm not gonna dog 2K because I know what potential they have but it's not getting executed. You can't just do things on the fly and ignore the peoples demands. When we talk about certain glitches that are effecting the game, we want a video to prove that they atleast fixed it. Or else we'll be sitting here talking about the same glitches and same problems that the previous years had.

Your previous post was much more condescending, and would NEVER be received positively by anyone on VC's team. This one states your case in a much more reasonable fashion.

Everyone would love for them to be more open with their design decisions early in the process, but its clear that isn't how they do business. They trust their own methodology and until they are knocked out of the top spot its unlikely that they are going to change.

[Abdul88]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

Nicee Cant wait

[Kaanyr Vhok]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

I dont mind casual controls just dont give us casual results

[J_Posse]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

I dont mind casual controls just dont give us casual results

Seems like both titles are going with a more "user-friendly" control scheme this year. I'm just hopeful that they take alot of skill and practice to master, while being easy to pick-up and play.

Don't you understand that if we don't catch it before the demo, asking for patches isn't gonna get resolved fast enough. And then we'll be sitting here 3 months at a time waiting for patches.

Not trying to pile on, but any sports title is going to need a patch post-release regardless of developer interaction. Just look a Madden '10 and all of its pre-release interaction, yet the game still needed to be patched and they also couldn't include some of the promised features (allegedly).

[youvalss]

Re: NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

Can't wait until the 'Fear The Air Fridays' start!