NBA 2K11 Video: Producer, Erick Boenisch

**Phreezy P** · 06-25-2010, 09:25 PM

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All of these different videos are practically all the same.

**Mr_Riddick** · 06-25-2010, 10:10 PM

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Yeah, just with each video it seems they give a little more info.

**HealyMonster** · 06-25-2010, 10:18 PM

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this game is going to be crazy this year man, i cant wait.

**Eman5805** · 06-25-2010, 10:27 PM

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Gah. It's nothing new. I'm ready for a more inclusive hands on preview here.

**Rocboyz101** · 06-26-2010, 01:04 AM

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Originally posted by Lawless66007

Don't get things twisted, I'm not an Live/Elite guy, I'm 2K. I just happen to see over there and they had info on the new Elite and I was suprised about how much in contact they are over there with the programmers. But I'm not talking about Elite because this is a 2K forum. But how is it that us asking for videos too much? Every year we never get a video and then when the game comes out we find all the problems and then start asking for patches. Don't you understand that if we don't catch it before the demo, asking for patches isn't gonna get resolved fast enough. And then we'll be sitting here 3 months at a time waiting for patches.

I just wanted to know why it was so bad to ask for atleast a video of something so that we know what we are getting. Yeah we know that the format isn't gonna change. But you also know that even though the format isn't gonna change the product gets worst. I'm hoping that 2K gets better. I'm not gonna dog 2K because I know what potential they have but it's not getting executed. You can't just do things on the fly and ignore the peoples demands. When we talk about certain glitches that are effecting the game, we want a video to prove that they atleast fixed it. Or else we'll be sitting here talking about the same glitches and same problems that the previous years had.

c/s, its sad how everyone has gotten used to this...

**Eman5805** · 06-26-2010, 06:00 AM

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Originally posted by Rocboyz101

c/s, its sad how everyone has gotten used to this...

Not sure how you could say it's sad or even expect any different. It isn't like OS is some small, obscure sports video game website with about 20 people online at once at the most.

When you've got so many people, who in general like to complain as a culture, someone's going to complain about something. Just the numbers game really. I myself am one of the hates developers just TALK up their game and never show much of it. And when they do, I don't go frame by frame to find nitpicks. Not my style...but I'm one dude.

Someone else will most def do that. Just the way it goes, my friend.

**Lawless66007** · 06-26-2010, 08:14 AM

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Originally posted by Eman5805

Not sure how you could say it's sad or even expect any different. It isn't like OS is some small, obscure sports video game website with about 20 people online at once at the most.

When you've got so many people, who in general like to complain as a culture, someone's going to complain about something. Just the numbers game really. I myself am one of the hates developers just TALK up their game and never show much of it. And when they do, I don't go frame by frame to find nitpicks. Not my style...but I'm one dude.

Someone else will most def do that. Just the way it goes, my friend.

And see that's the problem with certain people on these types of sites. People think that people just complain just to be complaining. You need people to complain, especially with products. Because if you don't complain, nothing will be fixed. But you also have people that want people to stop complaining when there IS a need to complain. When I go on other boards on other sites the majority of complaints are usually the same, gamplay and online.

But then you have these people and certain moderators of forums on different sites that want to try to silence these people because they are scared that it might either damage the reputation of the product or they just don't like to hear the complaining. And that's where the problem comes in because it becomes a war. Then nothing gets fixed because the company will look at it and think its some bickering.

Sure there are people that knitpick and complain about things that's not even relevent (shoes, headband colors, jerseys) but legitimate complaints are getting ignored because people try to silence them. But then when something isn't right we start asking for patches. So complaining that there isn't video is a legitimate complaint. It's either that or start preparing to start type "When's the patch coming out".

**tpe14** · 06-26-2010, 08:15 AM

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I was hoping for a little sneak peek in gameplay.

**Pared** · 06-26-2010, 08:26 AM

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Originally posted by Lawless66007

You need people to complain, especially with products.

This mindset is EXACTLY what's wrong with the gamer today. That's a complete joke of what we're trying to do here at OS.

Read my sig - this is NOT a place to simply complain. Open up a YouTube account if you want to do that.

There's a reason why we ask for constructive criticism.

What you're failing to see here is we now have a thread about you complaining about not complaining for 2 pages. What has that given us? Is 2k all of a sudden going to start releasing videos early?

Complaining is NOT the way to get things done. I'm telling you this from what I know, not from what I believe. You have others explaining to you that 2k will work on their own schedule to deliver you the best game possible and you still want to argue with others.

In fact, we're going completely off-topic at this point. We're better off letting the thread get back to discussing the game.

**Rocboyz101** · 06-26-2010, 08:59 AM

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Originally posted by Eman5805

Not sure how you could say it's sad or even expect any different. It isn't like OS is some small, obscure sports video game website with about 20 people online at once at the most.

When you've got so many people, who in general like to complain as a culture, someone's going to complain about something. Just the numbers game really. I myself am one of the hates developers just TALK up their game and never show much of it. And when they do, I don't go frame by frame to find nitpicks. Not my style...but I'm one dude.

Someone else will most def do that. Just the way it goes, my friend.

Don't get me wrong I understand, after what happened last year I'm one of those people whose used to it..I'd really like for this to change though.

**Lawless66007** · 06-27-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally posted by Pared

There's a reason why we ask for constructive criticism.

I know you said to get back on topic but I want to get this in. That's what I'm talking about. Most complaints are constructive criticism, but most Mods and people on threads think that constructive criticism is nothing but complaining. That's what I'm talking about. Most constructive criticism is getting wrote off as just complaining and nothing is being done about the things that needs to be changed. But the moment somebody has something to say about errors or things that are wrong, people jump on them and say "Oh stop complaining". All I'm saying is that people need to understand the difference.

**NINJAK2** · 06-27-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally posted by Lawless66007

I know you said to get back on topic but I want to get this in. That's what I'm talking about. Most complaints are constructive criticism, but most Mods and people on threads think that constructive criticism is nothing but complaining. That's what I'm talking about. Most constructive criticism is getting wrote off as just complaining and nothing is being done about the things that needs to be changed. But the moment somebody has something to say about errors or things that are wrong, people jump on them and say "Oh stop complaining". All I'm saying is that people need to understand the difference.

There is a difference but you begging for early videos of an incomplete game is not constructive criticism..that's just complaining.

**Rocboyz101** · 06-27-2010, 01:26 PM

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Originally posted by NINJAK2

There is a difference but you begging for early videos of an incomplete game is not constructive criticism..that's just complaining.

I think he means once we get to see the videos, then we can criticize constructively..

**Mr_Riddick** · 06-27-2010, 06:23 PM

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I think by the time we do see videos, we won't have much to critisize!

**Shakedowncapo** · 06-28-2010, 12:21 PM

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Did somebody say.....Criticize?

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