MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

[abcabc]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

If v4.1 is just fixing stamina, do we really need it? Can we just up the starter stamina slider?

i think what can be interesting w/ v4.1 stamina re-edits is it will use Banzho's Roster Tools program to give attributes for stamina, as it was used for all the batting attributes that came w/ 4.0, also v4.1 could have any tweaks that we report after playtesting v4.0, and have more visual updates like equipment.

[abcabc]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Yep, this is my first year with a PS3, so first year with the rosters.

The odd thing is, if noone in the MLB actually throws a 4seam FB, why the heck to SCEA give that pitch as the primary pitch to every single pitcher in the game? I just don't understand why the don't include accurate pitches in the official rosters.

someone at SCEA isn't putting effort to sit down and do what these guys have done. it's been like this for a few yrs, they don't address it while they boast how real and sim like their game is, and it is, but not in this area for sure. And maybe they leave the 4sfb in there to make it easier for people to get into the game, else if you're casual, you'd give up playing... seriously it was hard even at stock SCEA for a beginner to the MLB series... as in it took hours to be able to learn to get adequate in hitting, esp. if someone doesn't play baseball games (has no history in tracking a ball on a LCD) so a FB w/ movement would be even harder... as it is, this ain't Wii fit baseball.

[Dean3790]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Nevermind, I think we need a v4.1. David Price, averages 106.57 pitches per start, is completely drained at 92. And this is with the slider for starter stamina at 6 now.

[abcabc]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Nevermind, I think we need a v4.1. David Price, averages 106.57 pitches per start, is completely drained at 92. And this is with the slider for starter stamina at 6 now.

that's pretty bad.. btw i've playtested v4.0 w/ starter stamina at 8, forget about 7, not that my verdict is out on it for 8. I just saw Josh Becket get pulled within the 5th inning... he pitched about 75 pitches (CPU)

[JaSnake16]

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that's pretty bad.. btw i've playtested v4.0 w/ starter stamina at 8, forget about 7, not that my verdict is out on it for 8. I just saw Josh Becket get pulled within the 5th inning... he pitched about 75 pitches (CPU)

Guys, how much do you think is related to stamina and how much is related to manager hook. If he gave up a couple of hits and his stamina is a quarter if the hook is at normal, the pitcher will be pulled

[hope4bob]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Guys, how much do you think is related to stamina and how much is related to manager hook. If he gave up a couple of hits and his stamina is a quarter if the hook is at normal, the pitcher will be pulled

Jasnake do you have a certain slider set you're using with v4?

bob

[MarylandScout2]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Does anyone know of a place to get Draft Pick CAPS so we can add these players in once we come across the Draft in the game.

[JaSnake16]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Jasnake do you have a certain slider set you're using with v4?

bob

Bob,
I have always used PB's Perfect Slider Set with Razr's Starter Stamina, Reliever Stamina and Hook. I have always had good experience with these sliders using Knights rosters.

Interesting with the durability with starters (not the stamina), I never knew that. Wish I knew enough to ask before. Ill make a note with TD to look at that when doing 4.1.

[miles999]

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Daniel Cabrera isn't with the Orioles anymore.
He signed a minor league contract with the White Sox with a spring training invite, never made the team, was released, and signed another minor lc on june 10, with the Angels this time.
He's been the ... CLOSER for their AA affiliate Arkansas.

[JaSnake16]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Daniel Cabrera isn't with the Orioles anymore.
He signed a minor league contract with the White Sox with a spring training invite, never made the team, was released, and signed another minor lc on june 10, with the Angels this time.
He's been the ... CLOSER for their AA affiliate Arkansas.

I know he said Daniel Cabrera, TD meant David Hernandez whose HR/9 was originally 0 but we increased to 38 since hes been more effective as a reliever.

[abcabc]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Nevermind, I think we need a v4.1. David Price, averages 106.57 pitches per start, is completely drained at 92. And this is with the slider for starter stamina at 6 now.

that's pretty bad.. btw i've playtested v4.0 w/ starter stamina at 8, forget about 7, not that my verdict is out on it for 8.

Frankly, as I mentioned earlier this week, the bulk of MLB caliber starters can do 115+ pitches per start and maintain their fastball within 1-2mph... between their 99th pitch to their 115+

What more of them tend to display, is actually their finer control gives way... they may drop a few meatball strikes instead of less hittable corner strikes, more 'up over the plate' kinds of pitches due to mechanical fatigue, and if the batters don't miss those... well the pitcher gets pulled out of the game... this leads to the IP average due to manager hook.

but you don't see too many starting pitchers behave the way a zero energy bar starter behaves in v3-v4 bet. pitch 90-100, let alone 100-110,

[abcabc]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

Guys, how much do you think is related to stamina and how much is related to manager hook. If he gave up a couple of hits and his stamina is a quarter if the hook is at normal, the pitcher will be pulled

i see... then the manager hooks occur in game earlier now on avg, due to the energy of the starter going byebye faster... but in my 1 example, Beckett is a pitcher set w/ very good stamina. he just gave up 4 walks to me in 5 innings and got relieved in if i recall, at the end of his inning. when i played about half a season w/ v2, the manager cpu hooks were very realistic, starters went deep even if they got hit around a bit. i have mgr hook at default. (5) just like for v2 btw.

[Dean3790]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

It is solely stamina related. I am mainly testing by playing games and throwing pitches with my starter until he is completely depleted on energy. If Price is AVERAGING 106 per game, and he can't reach 92 without draining all of his energy, AND the starter stamina is at 6, how can RAZR say these are realistic? So every time Price has pitched he has been running on absolute empty for at least 15 pitches? That's a whole inning worth of pitches with ABSOLUTELY 0 ENERGY. That's insane.

RAZR said these weren't for simmed stats and that he didn't care about producing unrealistic sim stats. Now, they are producing unrealistic played game stats. He could at least admit this and try to help out. I really appreciate all the work you guys put in and love to use these rosters, but this issue is killing it for me now.

[Majingir]

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how updated is the roster for this file

[MoleDude]

re: MLB '10 The Show Rosters: OS Full Minors v4 (Opening Day Only)

RAZR said these weren't for simmed stats and that he didn't care about producing unrealistic sim stats. Now, they are producing unrealistic played game stats. He could at least admit this and try to help out. I really appreciate all the work you guys put in and love to use these rosters, but this issue is killing it for me now.

What are you trying to accomplish with the slew of posts all saying the same thing? They're putting out a 4.1 with stamina edits. If you don't want to wait, go edit it yourself.

Nobody owes you, or any of us here, an apology for doing a bunch of work on rosters. Perhaps it didn't work out great this time, but it's already been established it will be changed in 4.1.