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Re: Madden NFL 11 Player Ratings: Top Players at Each Position (K0ACHK)
And there's that infamous Packer blind bias again.
"Ryan Grant has had simular {sic} numbers to Adrian Pederson {sic} the last couple of seasons".
Okay let's see if that's true:
Grant: 2456 rushing yards / 313 rec yards / 15 TDs / 4.1 rush avg
A.P: 3143 rushing yards / 560 rec yards / 28 TDs/ 4.6 rush avg
DIFF: 687 rushing yards / 247 rec yards / 13 TDs/ 0.5 rush avg
That's why the hell Grant isn't 98 overall. 934 total yards and 13 TDs less. That's about a normal season for an average RB difference in just 2 years.Last edited by salbowski; 06-26-2010, 02:37 PM.Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 11 Player Ratings: Top Players at Each Position (K0ACHK)
Peterson has rushed for 1,300 more yards and 17 more touch downs than Grant over the last 3 years.
SO yeah. I lol'd.
Oh, and a good way I think to allow fumbles to hurt someones rating is for every fumble, minus 25 yards to the ball carriers overall yards. Then compare the running backs in who had the most yards per season. Should give a more fair view of best to worst.Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 11 Player Ratings: Top Players at Each Position (K0ACHK)
I'd rather have a HB that doesn't fumble 5 times a game, thank you very much.Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 11 Player Ratings: Top Players at Each Position (K0ACHK)
He's also been hit more then any other QB the last two seasons. While being sacked like 3-400 times, I stopped counting after a while. Our OL is just that bad.Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 11 Player Ratings: Top Players at Each Position (K0ACHK)
You compare Ryan Grant to A.P.? Wow I needed a laugh for the day. Specifically saying they had similar stats. Holy hell that was funny.Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 11 Player Ratings: Top Players at Each Position (K0ACHK)
Hahaha... somebody needs to check the prescription on those green and gold glasses these Packers fans are wearing. First comparing Ryan Grant to Adrian Peterson, now denying fumble stats that are in plain black and white on any stat website on the internet.
Honestly though, sacks lead to fumbles, and just about every QB who is sacked 35+ times fumbles around 10 times. Of course guys like Rodgers, Roethlisberger, Cassel, and others take unnecessary sacks, but Rodger's fumbles per carry/sack aren't really out of the ordinary at all.
Adrian Peterson gets his 'fumbling reputation' mostly from fumbling at bad times and big games. He fumbles quite a bit for a running back, but he makes up for it tenfold with his production. I'd gladly take his 7 fumbles (only about 3 or 4 more than the average back) if I could get the nearly 2000 total yards and 20 TDs he brings to the table. Anybody who would take Ryan Grant over AD is either a homer or just dumb.
Grant's a good running back and all, but half the time he doesn't more than 15 or 16 carries. I've had him on my fantasy team before and it is annoying. Seemed like every other game he'd have like 50 yards. Way too inconsistent and not the gamebreaker that AD is.Comment
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Re: Madden NFL 11 Player Ratings: Top Players at Each Position (K0ACHK)
You do understand the reason i said Check your Facts ( Random Cap for you ..yupp ).. Is because the Packers have had probably the worst O-Line in football the last 2-3 years , and to put up the numbers that A-ROD indeed did is just beast . So take your NFL stats page ..which you prob need to make points outta here because thats not what i wasn talking about. You have no right to come at Rodgers , especially with the numbers he puts up with that pathetic o-line.
And same situation with AD, i never said Grant is a RB ...are you crazy?
Please dont take out your Ben R/ The hole Steelers Org. downfall anger on A-ROD .PS3 Madden God.
Packers <3
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Re: Madden NFL 11 Player Ratings: Top Players at Each Position (K0ACHK)
First of all, Grant is a RB. But I was referring to a different delusional Packers fan with that comment.
Secondly, I don't really know what you are talking about with the Steelers downfall thing or how that had anything to do with my post.
Thirdly, I think your 'fact' being about the O-line is weak.
The 'Fact' is that Aaron Rodgers holds the ball too long. I've heard it about Big Ben for years, and when I watch Rodgers play I can't help but wonder why no one ever says it about him.
The 'worst offensive line' argument is weak because Brett Favre in '07 took a whopping 15 sacks on 550 dropbacks with basically the same group. The last time Brett took more than 26 sacks in Green Bay was 2000. That goes to show the right QB can make an offensive line look better or worse. The offensive linemen haven't really changed much since 2007, but went from allowing 15 sacks in 07 to 34 in 08 to 50 in 09.
Even back when Favre was in GB and Rodgers would play mop up every now and then he took sacks. He was sacked 13% of the time (9 times in 68 dropbacks) while Favre was there compared to Favre's 3%. The line did pretty good in pass protection with Favre in there, and as soon as a new QB comes in it turns into the worst line in the league?
I'm not saying it's a great offensive line, but Rodger's makes it look worse, and brings a lot of the hits on himself. His numbers are impressive, though, given that he is often under pressure, and I'm in no way saying that Rodgers isn't one of the top passers in the league.Comment
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