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  • dat swag
    Banned
    • Nov 2008
    • 1040

    #106
    Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

    Originally posted by rEAnimator

    The term cheesing is new to me so I apologize for the ignorance. Is it basically using an exploit to defeat your opponent?
    In a nutshell YES...exploits are "CHEESY" for sure but "CHEESY" play can also be prevalent in the game by simply playing the game unrealistically...A perfect example would be NBA Live 10...Shooting nothing but 3Pt shots or running the same play over and over and...

    No game will ever be cheese proof...I think the most irritating thing for gamers is to watch a person play a game with no respect for the sport and watch the nonsense be rewarded...I personally don't care how anyone plays...I just hate to see the cheesy tactics be rewarded.

    If a cat is running around the floor with one guy jacking up 3's or trying to get dunks off every trip down the floor and I'm running plays and offense and trying to tap into the fundamentals of solid realistic game-play I feel like the game should reward me for that...I think that's something most gamers want

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    • rEAnimator
      NBA Elite Developer
      • Jun 2010
      • 666

      #107
      Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

      Originally posted by dat swag
      In a nutshell YES...exploits are "CHEESY" for sure but "CHEESY" play can also be prevalent in the game by simply playing the game unrealistically...A perfect example would be NBA Live 10...Shooting nothing but 3Pt shots or running the same play over and over and...

      No game will ever be cheese proof...I think the most irritating thing for gamers is to watch a person play a game with no respect for the sport and watch the nonsense be rewarded...I personally don't care how anyone plays...I just hate to see the cheesy tactics be rewarded.

      If a cat is running around the floor with one guy jacking up 3's or trying to get dunks off every trip down the floor and I'm running plays and offense and trying to tap into the fundamentals of solid realistic game-play I feel like the game should reward me for that...I think that's something most gamers want
      I completely agree with what you're saying here. We want the same thing that you want. We want people to be rewarded for playing good basketball and punished for playing bad basketball.

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      • JulesMendoza
        Rookie
        • Jul 2009
        • 44

        #108
        Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

        Hey reAnimator!

        One thing that annoys me in live 10 was the inability of doing drop passes while going for a layup or a dunk. would drop passes be implemented this year?

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        • Pared
          Legen - WAIT FOR IT
          • Feb 2003
          • 39337

          #109
          Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

          This thread is a perfect example why companies don't release videos until closer to the release.

          It's obvious the general public still can't handle an unfinished, buggy game. They just don't understand it.

          And that's not a slight... more of an observation. It's tough to grasp when a certain something isn't in the game from the video... like the lack of footplanting, or missing fouls...

          I think those seeing it for what it is can see the potential. Of course there is room for error, but I do get the feeling some guys are excited by the promise of the glass being half full as opposed to half empty.
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          • YoungG
            Rookie
            • Aug 2009
            • 93

            #110
            Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

            I'm usually on this site just reading and rarely posting, but i can understand what Pared is saying. A lot of the time people don't seem to take the videos for what you is, right now.

            It's good that the developers are releasing it, so we can have a chance to point some things out, in order to help and make the game better by release, but it all has to be in proper context.

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            • Pared
              Legen - WAIT FOR IT
              • Feb 2003
              • 39337

              #111
              Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

              That's exactly it. Maybe you should post more.

              It's also why these companies are hesitant to let guys in the forums see the game in an unfinished state. We were even told this specifically when we were there and I knew that from the beginning.

              The last thing you want to do is turn off your consumer but at the same time, there's no way to show them what is being worked on unless it is incomplete. It's a catch-22.

              Over in the 2k forums, some guys are complaining about not having videos to complain about...? Really?

              Seems like you're damned if you do and you're damned if you don't.

              I'm hoping our members can begin seeing things a bit differently when confronted with a "work in progress" video. It will only help us have better games available to buy when released... criticize constructively and to improve the game, not just to do it.
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              • DaveDQ
                13
                • Sep 2003
                • 7664

                #112
                Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

                The ball physics in this game still look so odd. Sometimes it's like the ball has helium in it and then it quickly switches to air. You couple that with very weird player movements and the game looks very awkward.
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                • Winson~~
                  Rookie
                  • Sep 2009
                  • 15

                  #113
                  Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

                  To EA sports,

                  I have been supporting NBA Live series for many years. I really have a high expectation on this year's basketball game. I REALLY want a perfect basketball game this year.

                  From the video, several points of suggestions:
                  1. A bit slower pace for the players
                  2. More and more body collison/ contact both on the ground and in the air (as the players tend to slip away easily from the video)
                  3. Successful defence could influence shooting/ layups/ dunking more, i.e. more contest shoots and contest layups

                  Hope these suggestions would help. Thank you very much~

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                  • Piccaso
                    Rookie
                    • Jun 2010
                    • 22

                    #114
                    I would like to say that we need to be thankful for getting an oppurtunity to help create a game for guys who hate cheesers we need to be the solution for a good game so if they release videos for help then help them cause they obviously havent got it right so when they post another act like u sitting in Vancouver and tell them what could be better cause complaing is only gonna result in bad game that we purchased

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                    • clivo1050
                      Pro
                      • Aug 2006
                      • 715

                      #115
                      Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

                      Originally posted by Gotmadskillzson
                      What the duece ???????????

                      Granted it was on the Wii so I am not expecting uber graphics, but all that ice skating was just blah. Looked like they were playing on fast forward.
                      It was 360/PS3 footage they were showing. The event also showed NBA Jam on the wii which is why you saw the wii remotes being used. It was weird the way they edited the video, showing Elite footage then showing wall using a wii controller.

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                      • ATOMICASHE
                        Banned
                        • Apr 2010
                        • 3

                        #116
                        still early. I will wait for the polished work to give an opinion.

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                        • JkA3
                          Strategy
                          • Jul 2008
                          • 858

                          #117
                          Czar I appreciate your protection of the "user controlled' functionality, but this game looks whack, at least in this video. If an EA employee made the decision to release this video, they made a very bad move.

                          I'll take canned movements over the jerky movements for now.
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                          • NoTiCe_O
                            Pro
                            • May 2009
                            • 969

                            #118
                            Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

                            Originally posted by JkA3
                            Czar I appreciate your protection of the "user controlled' functionality, but this game looks whack, at least in this video. If an EA employee made the decision to release this video, they made a very bad move.

                            I'll take canned movements over the jerky movements for now.
                            You can tell this is a user submitted video
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                            • ThaShark28_316
                              Pro
                              • Apr 2008
                              • 692

                              #119
                              Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

                              JkA3, it seemed that EA screwed up releasing that replay video for NCAA 11 in march or april..looked like crap...



                              Now it's the best (or most anticipated) football game for EA since the ps2 days...it's way too much stock put in videos for games that aren't out for months.
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                              • JkA3
                                Strategy
                                • Jul 2008
                                • 858

                                #120
                                Re: NBA Elite 11 Video: NYC Launch Party - Durant vs. James Gameplay

                                Originally posted by NoTiCe_O
                                You can tell this is a user submitted video
                                I first watched this vid on my phone where the quality is usually on the poor side, so I couldn't tell for sure if it was user submitted.
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