7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

[SacKings1999]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

One thing I've noticed is that the players don't jump very high on the jump shots..I started thinking about it,and after watching the gameplay video from e3,I'm certain that that's the problem.I was thinking maybe you guys should time how long on average a player stays in the air when they pull up for a jumper.I. think its like between 3-4 seconds.in live,and even in these early build videos of elite it seems you guys have it around 1-2 seconds,so with players who have a late release on their jumper,it seems as if they're on their way down by the time the shot should be released.can you please look into this? Thx in advance for considering my input.

I'm pretty sure that there aren't any signature shot animations in the game at this point. Also, 1-2 seconds for hang time on a jumpshot sounds WAY better than 3-4 seconds. Four seconds would be Lebron on the moon.

[mikenoob]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

No there wasn't an option for it last year. It's just good to know that you guys thought it was too fast as well. Basketball is a fast-paced game, so as long as it's true to the game I'm good.

There is a game speed option under the settings.

[ParisB]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

Yea no kidding, don't know where the 3-4 seconds came from,lol. That's how long it takes a fast guard to run the length of the court. If a guy could hang in the air for 3 seconds he would be setting world records left and right in track and field. The typical NBA jump shot might barely be over 1 second. Look at Ray Allen, he only needs a split second to release one of the best looking shots of all time.

[BigDaneAyMane]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

Helluva post, Big. That's how you do it here. Welcome to OS.

Haha thanks, bruh! I've actually been following this site, you, Pasta Padre and some others for years from afar. I'm a big gamer, but sports gaming is really where my passion is at!

As much as I love the NBA 2k series, they are most definitely NOT paying me to play their game, so I will never feel a "loyalty" to a series. The better game wins out everytime, just so happens I've felt like it's been 2k for five years.

Happy to be a member here and thanks for the welcome!

[b_ball23]

will there be defensive 3 seconds, traveling, and technical fouls in the game? Will graphics be even better than last year's game?

[dat swag]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

There is a game speed option under the settings.

The default game speed will hopefully be tweaked for a slower game...The current speed seems to be too fast and I think a lil slower rendition of the game will not only add to the visuals of the game but also the all important GAMEPLAY.

There are so many subtle nuances in a game like this that when its moving at hyper speed you cannot appreciate the workmanship in the animations or gameplay...I really hope they address the game speed on a default level. Particularly for those of us who rely on head to head and online play. I'm not that dude to be playing with sliders because I only play head to head and online.

[dat swag]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

will there be defensive 3 seconds, traveling, and technical fouls in the game? Will graphics be even better than last year's game?

I'll take a stab at this one based on my reading of developer comments:

Yes
Yes
No
Yes

[joel0078]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

Yeah, we all think the game is too fast as well. Not sure about the game speed option, was it there last year?

Anyway, things will change as we introduce player ratings and start tuning locomotion speeds. Everything is tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now. So keep that in mind when you watch the videos.

I'm not going to promise that everyone who's complained so far will like the game speed we settle on because it may very well be faster than real life to make it feel more responsive, but everyone here on the dev team thinks it's too fast right now so it won't stay as is.

OK, I understand this is a work in progress and maybe I'm missing something here, but why is "everything tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now". And with your comment to keep that in mind when we watch the VIDEOS, that suggests to me there will be more of the same hyper speed movement in upcoming videos.....

Why not just show what the game will truly be? What's the point in tuning the players a certain way when it's not going to be an accurate portrayal of how the game actually plays??? These are the types of things that irritate me about this series and how its developed. Show us what the game will really be. I don't want to see something that is going to be drastically different from the final product and I think (hope) most people here would agree with me. I just really don't get why you would voluntarily show off this hyper speed if its not an accurate representation and you yourself agree that "everyone thinks it's way to fast". Seems kind of contradictory to me. If you have a reason, I'd like to hear it. Having said all that, this revelation has my faith in this game and how it's being produced, spiraling downward fast.

edit: How do you not know whether or not there was a game/player speed option in last years game and whether or not there will be one in this years version? Your comments about the speed of the game and whether or not everyone will like the final result, is seriously concerning.....If I were a betting man, I'd bet this game is going to be an ARCADE FEST with little hints of sim basketball here and there.

[mharlem]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

OK, I understand this is a work in progress and maybe I'm missing something here, but why is "everything tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now". And with your comment to keep that in mind when we watch the VIDEOS, that suggests to me there will be more of the same hyper speed movement in upcoming videos.....

Why not just show what the game will truly be? What's the point in tuning the players a certain way when it's not going to be an accurate portrayal of how the game actually plays??? These are the types of things that irritate me about this series and how its developed. Show us what the game will really be. I don't want to see something that is going to be different from the final product and I think (hope) most people here would agree with me. I just really don't get why you would voluntarily show off this hyper speed if its not accurate and you yourself agree that "everyone thinks it's way to fast". Seems kind of contradictory to me. If you have a reason, I'd like to hear it. Having said all that, this revelation has my faith in this game and how it's being produced, spiraling downward fast.

The game is still being developed, so how can they show us the final product? Appreciate what they're showing us and let them continue to work on the game.

[Playmakers]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

Anyway, things will change as we introduce player ratings and start tuning locomotion speeds. Everything is tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now. So keep that in mind when you watch the videos.
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Anyway to make sure right now that some PG's like Kidd and Fisher are under control with their shot selection/shooting tendencies?

I would love to see J.Kidd be more of a distributor....yes he does look for the open 3 more and i think that should play out in NBA Elite if he's wide open he'll take the shot but if someone is defending him Kidd's not going to shoot

He absolutely must have his feet set in order to be a threat.....I wish you guys could actually label some players SPOT UP SHOOTERS because that's exactly what he is now days.

I'm looking forward to seeing how all this turns out.....i would like to see this series return to the greatnest of years past.

[SacKings1999]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

OK, I understand this is a work in progress and maybe I'm missing something here, but why is "everything tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now". And with your comment to keep that in mind when we watch the VIDEOS, that suggests to me there will be more of the same hyper speed movement in upcoming videos.....

Why not just show what the game will truly be? What's the point in tuning the players a certain way when it's not going to be an accurate portrayal of how the game actually plays??? These are the types of things that irritate me about this series and how its developed. Show us what the game will really be. I don't want to see something that is going to be drastically different from the final product and I think (hope) most people here would agree with me. I just really don't get why you would voluntarily show off this hyper speed if its not an accurate representation and you yourself agree that "everyone thinks it's way to fast". Seems kind of contradictory to me. If you have a reason, I'd like to hear it. Having said all that, this revelation has my faith in this game and how it's being produced, spiraling downward fast.

edit: How do you not know whether or not there was a game/player speed option in last years game and whether or not there will be one in this years version? Your comments about the speed of the game and whether or not everyone will like the final result, is seriously concerning.....If I were a betting man, I'd bet this game is going to be an ARCADE FEST with little hints of sim basketball here and there.

Whoooooaaa, calm down. I don't know very much about developing video games, but I imagine the reason everyone is tuned to the most explosive, agile player is simply because they don't have all of the player ratings input yet. So all players in these early videos are the same ratings-template-generic player.

The game is still an early build, they don't have sig jump shots, ratings, etc... so if ratings aren't in yet, would you rather see videos where everyone moves like Chris Paul after a few red bulls, or a modern day Patrick Ewing (not to be confused with Patrick Chewing).

Just relax, reanimator said that ratings / locomotion tunings etc... still need to be input.

[green94]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

Great video... very impressive YOY leap for Live/Elite.

I know someone else asked the question but I don't think I saw it answered, will the hand in the face animation still be in the game or will it be replaced by the jumping block that was demoed in the video?

[joel0078]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

The game is still being developed, so how can they show us the final product? Appreciate what they're showing us and let them continue to work on the game.

Thanks Harlem, I clearly understand that....Let me break it down for you like this........Showing us a super fast game speed and then saying we all agree its way to fast, is comparable to saying something like the graphics are terrible and that's intentional at this point and we all know the graphics are terrible at this point, but we are going to show you guys what we have and you guys will just have to have faith that we'll fix it. And this guy isn't even going as far as saying that the end result for speed may still not be to peoples liking....

I clearly don't expect to see the final result right now, but I expect an honest depiction of what the end result will shape up to be...Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe this game speed or one similar to it, will be the final result. In addition to that, just from what I saw on the video, I'm losing interest in the game, I'm not happy about the speed, but thats just me. And I've been around here for years and I've been buying Live since the beginning, so I know how the hype up works and then the let down finishes. No skin off my back though. I was just stating my opinion. No need for you to run to the rescue. Its an opinion, that's all.

[dexvex]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

OK, I understand this is a work in progress and maybe I'm missing something here, but why is "everything tuned for the fastest, most explosive and agile player right now". And with your comment to keep that in mind when we watch the VIDEOS, that suggests to me there will be more of the same hyper speed movement in upcoming videos.....

Why not just show what the game will truly be? What's the point in tuning the players a certain way when it's not going to be an accurate portrayal of how the game actually plays??? These are the types of things that irritate me about this series and how its developed. Show us what the game will really be. I don't want to see something that is going to be drastically different from the final product and I think (hope) most people here would agree with me. I just really don't get why you would voluntarily show off this hyper speed if its not an accurate representation and you yourself agree that "everyone thinks it's way to fast". Seems kind of contradictory to me. If you have a reason, I'd like to hear it. Having said all that, this revelation has my faith in this game and how it's being produced, spiraling downward fast.

edit: How do you not know whether or not there was a game/player speed option in last years game and whether or not there will be one in this years version? Your comments about the speed of the game and whether or not everyone will like the final result, is seriously concerning.....If I were a betting man, I'd bet this game is going to be an ARCADE FEST with little hints of sim basketball here and there.

Idk maybe you mis-read or something but thats not what he said at all so quit with the hyperbole lol. The reason the game looks like it does now is because the ratings/attributes have not been put in so the game just thinks everybody speed,agility,etc is set to 99. I'm starting to agree with pared when he said most people aren't ready to see early/alpha gameplay footage........

[SacKings1999]

Re: 7 Minute NBA Elite 11 Video (Gamespot)

Thanks Harlem, I clearly understand that....I guess the point of my post was over your head. Let me break it down for you like this........Showing us a super fast game speed and then saying we all agree its way to fast, is comparable to saying something like the graphics are terrible and that's intentional at this point and we all know the graphics are terrible at this point, but we are going to show you guys what we have and you guys will just have to have faith that we'll fix it. And this guy isn't even going as far as saying that the end result for speed may still not be to peoples liking....

I clearly don't expect to see the final result right now, but I expect an honest depiction of what the end result will shape up to be...Maybe I'm wrong though, maybe this game speed or one similar to it, will be the final result. In addition to that, just from what I saw on the video, I'm losing interest in the game, I'm not happy about the speed.....It's fine with me, it only hurts EA to show something the game at a high rate of speed for whatever their reason is. It screams ARCADE and people will walk away from it. No skin off my back.

I understand your concern, but it's like Pared said, this is why a lot of game developers don't show early footage... you're damned if you do, damned if you don't. They can't show an honest depiction of "what the end result will shape up to be" because its still in development / tweaking. That said, I really don't think we need to worry that the game will be this fast. Really, I mean if it was, they'd have a full scale mutiny on their hands hahahaha.