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  • roadman
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    • Aug 2003
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    #106
    Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

    Originally posted by Football Dude01
    While I like what they are trying to do with this rating, I am very tired of in-game marketing from EA. I mean, at this point we have old spice, snickers, coca-cola, fantasy factor, and even freaking bing.

    It really starts to get old when I get ads in the 4th quarter of in a wild card game and it covers up my players on the line(true story). Oh well, It's EA and they will take every dollar they can get their grubby hands on.

    Instead of "swagger" that just affects celebrations, why not have "confidence" that could affect the gameplay?

    For example, when Peyton Manning throws a pick, he isn't going to worry about it. Take Jamarcus Russell and he will probably start playing worse if he throws a pick. I really don't know why they just didn't do this. I guess it won't net EA extra cash.
    I don't understand why this one would bother you except for it's an ad for the sake of an ad or giving EA another jab of money making.

    It's not even out on the playing field, it's hidden and tucked away in ratings.
    Last edited by roadman; 06-29-2010, 08:03 PM.

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    • trick02
      Rookie
      • Mar 2008
      • 499

      #107
      Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

      Seems like a pointless addition IMO but i loved madden last year and this will in no way hurt the game so its take it or leave it for me.
      Madden Fan 4 life!

      2K sports...the only place where such things as errors can be "over looked" while making a baseball game.

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      • roadman
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        • Aug 2003
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        #108
        Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

        Originally posted by Football Dude01
        It just gets old that EA can perfect all these ads and marketing, but franchise just gets shoved until next year. I wasn't meaning to take a jab at EA, although I can see how you thought that.
        I can understand and appreciate that. I said that because you brought it up twice, but I understand the level of frustration with franchise mode.

        The only thing I will say about franchise mode is this:

        A) They told us up front they are taking a year to work on franchise
        B) I'd rather have a redone from scratch franchise mode vs one they just tuned, tweaked or didn't touch at all.

        C) They better deliver the goods.

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        • trick02
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          • Mar 2008
          • 499

          #109
          Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

          Originally posted by pittsburgher86
          Old Spice Swagger... anything to make money. Either way its funny. I just hope that the "swag" won't cost my players touchdowns if they are showboating to the endzone...
          If you are the Eagles then yes it will. :-D
          Madden Fan 4 life!

          2K sports...the only place where such things as errors can be "over looked" while making a baseball game.

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          • bucky60
            Banned
            • Jan 2008
            • 3288

            #110
            Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

            To me, it seems more fluff than substance. Like some others, I would rather have had something that actually effects the game play or franchise features.

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            • Bellsprout
              Hard Times.
              • Oct 2009
              • 25652

              #111
              Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

              Aren't the franchise guys separate from the people that would implement something like this?

              Reason I ask is that I don't think the time taken to do this took any time away from upgrading franchise.
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              A lot of you guys seem pretty cool, but you have wieners.

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              • Football Dude01
                Banned
                • Jun 2010
                • 14

                #112
                Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

                Originally posted by WeAreAllWitnesses
                Aren't the franchise guys separate from the people that would implement something like this?

                Reason I ask is that I don't think the time taken to do this took any time away from upgrading franchise.
                What franchise upgrades? They were none.

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                • Bellsprout
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                  • Oct 2009
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                  #113
                  Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

                  Originally posted by Football Dude01
                  What franchise upgrades? They were none.
                  *Head/Desk*

                  Yes, I know. I'm just saying this probably had no impact on the lack of franchise updates.

                  You people are like leopards waiting to pounce!
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                  Originally posted by l3ulvl
                  A lot of you guys seem pretty cool, but you have wieners.

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                  • KDRIZZLE2K4
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                    • Jul 2004
                    • 329

                    #114
                    Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

                    Tendency to celebrate and swagger are not the same thing nor related...

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                    • Skyboxer
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                      • Jul 2002
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                      #115
                      Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

                      I love the feature as long as they develop it and it's not a one and done deal. Adding "Life" to the game is always a good thing.
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                      • tlc12576
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                        • Jun 2009
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                        #116
                        Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

                        Originally posted by roadman
                        I can understand and appreciate that. I said that because you brought it up twice, but I understand the level of frustration with franchise mode.

                        The only thing I will say about franchise mode is this:

                        A) They told us up front they are taking a year to work on franchise

                        B) I'd rather have a redone from scratch franchise mode vs one they just tuned, tweaked or didn't touch at all.

                        C) They better deliver the goods.
                        I wouldnt call announcing this a week before E3 "being upfront"!LOL

                        Not when you have gamers speculating and making suggestions all year, as well as a new development cycle that starts soon after the game is released. The standard for informing Madden gamers has been set so low on next-gen that what they did actually seems upfront in comparison.

                        Choice B shows you have alot of faith in EA about Madden 12, I hope you are right.

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                        • roadman
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                          • Aug 2003
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                          #117
                          Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

                          Originally posted by tlc12576
                          I wouldnt call announcing this a week before E3 "being upfront"!LOL

                          Not when you have gamers speculating and making suggestions all year, as well as a new development cycle that starts soon after the game is released. The standard for informing Madden gamers has been set so low on next-gen that what they did actually seems upfront in comparison.

                          Choice B shows you have alot of faith in EA about Madden 12, I hope you are right.
                          I would.

                          Gamers were complaining about misinformation from Madden 10 and now someone else says , "because it's a week before E3, doesn't cut it."

                          You can't have it both ways. Would you have rather rented or purchased 11 and discovered just tweaks here and there or would you rather know upfront before you rent or purchase that they are reworking franchise mode for next year?

                          Your choice.

                          Also, statement B that you bolded wasn't because I have a lot of faith in 12(when I haven't had a chance to put 11 in the hands, yet) that's just the way I've approached video games since the year 2000. I'm not that hard to please, I was a big fan of HH baseball because of the game play. Others couldn't stand the graphics because they looked like they came from the Atari era. Give me Techmo Bowl and RBI baseball any day of the week along with High Heat.

                          EA just needs to deliver on what they promised and we need to hold them to that.

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                          • tlc12576
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 666

                            #118
                            Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

                            Originally posted by roadman
                            I would.

                            Gamers were complaining about misinformation from Madden 10 and now someone else says , "because it's a week before E3, doesn't cut it."


                            You can't have it both ways. Would you have rather rented or purchased 11 and discovered just tweaks here and there or would you rather know upfront before you rent or purchase that they are reworking franchise mode for next year?

                            Your choice.
                            Pump your brakes Roadman, I never said "it doesnt cut it", EA can and does, whatever they want to. I just said I wouldnt call what they did, being upfront. Being upfront would of been announcing this when the new development cycle started or at least before the dev blogs started, IMO. It's cool if you think this is being upfront with consumers but I dont.

                            Also, how am I trying to have it both ways? I dont see how people complaining about misinformation means I should consider this being upfront. Is it better than them not saying anything at all, yeah but, that doesnt mean announcing it right before E3 is being upfront. It just means that, it's better than what they usually do. LOL! That was my earlier point about the standard being set so low, some people are thankful for anything, IMO.

                            Originally posted by roadman
                            Also, statement B that you bolded wasn't because I have a lot of faith in 12(when I haven't had a chance to put 11 in the hands, yet) that's just the way I've approached video games since the year 2000. I'm not that hard to please, I was a big fan of HH baseball because of the game play. Others couldn't stand the graphics because they looked like they came from the Atari era. Give me Techmo Bowl and RBI baseball any day of the week along with High Heat.

                            EA just needs to deliver on what they promised and we need to hold them to that.
                            That's what Im trying to do. When will "WE"? Gil Scott-Heron, "The revolution will not be televised".

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                            • roadman
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                              • Aug 2003
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                              #119
                              Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

                              Originally posted by tlc12576
                              Pump your brakes Roadman, I never said "it doesnt cut it", EA can and does, whatever they want to. I just said I wouldnt call what they did, being upfront. Being upfront would of been announcing this when the new development cycle started or at least before the dev blogs started, IMO. It's cool if you think this is being upfront with consumers but I dont.

                              Also, how am I trying to have it both ways? I dont see how people complaining about misinformation means I should consider this being upfront. Is it better than them not saying anything at all, yeah but, that doesnt mean announcing it right before E3 is being upfront. It just means that, it's better than what they usually do. LOL! That was my earlier point about the standard being set so low, some people are thankful for anything, IMO.



                              That's what Im trying to do. When will "WE"? Gil Scott-Heron, "The revolution will not be televised".
                              No problems, agree to disagree.

                              Would it have really made a difference to you if they announced the news early in the cycle? Let's remember, they don't announce one bit of news till SB time. So, that was roughly 4 months ago.

                              I really don't think it would stop people from complaining that franchise mode didn't make it in. I'm sure OS will hear that till the end of the year.

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                              • GatorChomp1
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                                • Apr 2009
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                                #120
                                Re: Madden NFL 11 "Swagger" Rating Explained (MyMaddenPad)

                                I'm wondering if it will have an effect on WHEN they choose to celebrate. Some guys celebrate every chance, while some do at certain times to get their team pumped up. I'll be annoyed to see a guy like Tebow high stepping every time he makes a play, but if he never gets excited that'll be a killer too.
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