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  • Steve_OS
    Editor-in-Chief
    • Jul 2002
    • 33826

    #1

    Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management


    The popular FBG Ratings website of the mid 2000's is up and running again under new management. Over 17000 NFL players are being evaluated and re-rated for the 2010 NFL season. The FBG ratings system will utilize old philosophies for bringing accuracy to Madden NFL game-play while incorporating the NextGen attributes into player ratings.

    Because of the many critiques of EA and their ratings over the years, the managers are hearing recommendations for player ratings. This will give the most loyal Madden gaming community at OS the opportunity to give their input into player ratings. Please visit www.fbgratings.com/members to check the site out.

    You can PM Dan B. on OS under his handle DCEBB2001.
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  • RedZoneD25
    MVP
    • Aug 2008
    • 2963

    #2
    Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

    So we can re-rate the players according to these ratings? Sounds SWEET.

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    • DCEBB2001
      MVP
      • Nov 2008
      • 2569

      #3
      Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

      Originally posted by WTFitsDaveyJ
      So we can re-rate the players according to these ratings? Sounds SWEET.
      Yes you can! The goal is to get a ratings system that will bring more accuracy to gameplay in Madden. Then, you can rate the players according to the site to see for yourself!
      Dan B.
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      Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
      https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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      • arsenal123gunners
        Pro
        • Nov 2006
        • 921

        #4
        Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

        Is it possible that we see a roster created with the new attributes that someone posts that we can download?
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        • sniperhare
          MVP
          • Dec 2009
          • 1145

          #5
          Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

          Love to see EA have a feature like the 2K Locker/Share so we can get teams of roster guys instead of relying on Donny to do everything.

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          • Bash
            Rookie
            • Jan 2010
            • 71

            #6
            Overall
            Name, Rating Change
            Hgt
            Wgt
            Exp
            Current Team
            99
            Manning, Peyton 6-5 230 11 Colts
            98
            Brees, Drew 6-0 213 9 Saints
            BS!

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            • djack10jmac18
              Rookie
              • Jun 2010
              • 8

              #7
              not to rip on this, because it is a very good idea and i would like to see more work on this, but these aren't very good. i like donny's ratings better. just taking a look at my eagles and i am already disappointed. they have brodrick bunkley who is a decent player, not an amazing star, rated higher than trent cole, a pro bowler and one of the best defensive ends in the whole league. then they have darryl tapp rated only 4 points less then cole. i have a problem with that. then they have sav rocca at a 86 overall. that is sad. i love the guy but he does not deserve an 86 overall. some more problems, jason avant is higher then jeremy maclin, nate allen is given a miniscule 54 after being selected with the 37th pick in the draft, lesean mccoy is a 72 when i think he deserves to be pushin about 80 (he did great in his rookie year and proved he can start for the eagles and even replace brian westbrook), and they also have jamaal jackson as the best offensive lineman for the eagles when he is 3rd maybe 4th, and more. just by looking at one roster and seeing quite a bit of problems i don't think that the whole nfl ratings are accurate.

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              • snowman5607
                Rookie
                • Jan 2009
                • 424

                #8
                Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                Yeah. Those ratings as of right now are a joke. Clinton Portis a 56? I know he's had a bad year and a half, but c'mon, man.

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                • djack10jmac18
                  Rookie
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 8

                  #9
                  Originally posted by sniperhare
                  Love to see EA have a feature like the 2K Locker/Share so we can get teams of roster guys instead of relying on Donny to do everything.
                  i think this is a great idea

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                  • Kushmir
                    MVP
                    • Jun 2003
                    • 2414

                    #10
                    Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                    i've played Madden for some time and i happened to like the ratings Madden 2003. ratings were much better and elite players ONLY were in the 90s. best part? 80 rated players were no slouch.

                    the biggest thing? people DID NOT progress too quickly and an 80 rating was considered VERY SOLID. haven't we learned from the examples of players like Michael Bennett and Reggie Bush? what about Roy Williams? (the safety) all these guys were grossly overrated based of one year after the ratings ballooned out of control. why is this important? because when one-year wonders have a pedestrian the year after, or a pedestrian couple of years....you're reducing them from 83 to a 78. not from a 90--that just looks bad.

                    funny thing? i'm an eagles fan too...here's the system. highest rating? 96. 97+ are reserved for the best to ever put on the uniform (rice, payton, marino, montana, ect..). elite players are 90+. average NFL starter? 70-74. 75-79 is for "above average" 80-84? this is for guys considered GOOD. 85-89 is for VERY GOOD, guys on the "cusp" of elite or veterans with 3 straight years at a high level of play. 65-69 is for solid bench contributors. 60-64 is your average bench player.

                    rookies are unproven commodities. they simply won't be overrated until we see what they can do. 1st round picks? 65-70. 2nd round picks? 60-64. third round picks? 50-59. after the third round? 40-49.

                    how do these ratings help? it helps players not be TOO GOOD. we've all seen what player ratings that are too high do to the game. they HURT it. it gives us a game where too many passes are caught, completed, intercepted and players are too fast, impossible to tackle and other manner of foolishness.

                    so here's the eagles:

                    Cole - 90. a good end, no doubt. but there are 5 or 6 guys better than he is. still elite tho...

                    Djack - 87. you're seeing he's not a 90 and you're about to die, right? good receiver no question. he's also not one-dimensional as people think--great route runner with GREAT hands. the issue? last year was his FIRST 1,000 yard season (he had 912 his first year i believe). giving any player with one thousand yard season a 90 is just crazy. i'd normally have said 85 (a great rating BTW) but intangibles like making the pro-bowl as a PR and WR were BIG. he can get those three points with another season like last year tho. that'll provide a good 3 year window. 900 yards as a rookie (which is excellent) 1100 yards as 2nd year player (again, really good) and he gets his 90 if he maintains his status quo as one of the league's most dangerous receivers.

                    Tapp - 63. 7 sacks his first year and has gone down in sacks every year since...this was in seattle. a lower-level bench contributor.

                    Rocca - 70. any eagles fan knows this guy is average at BEST.

                    Avant - 67. a high level bench contributor. 41catches-583yds-3tds..good slot guy with good hands.

                    Mccoy - 72. an 80? how? 637 yds and 4tds as a rookie? he started a great deal too.when i think 80 i think of guys like darren sproles. proven commodities.

                    jamal jackson. 77 (coming off injury: woulda been an 81). yeah you're right...he's behind peters and herremans. good, solid lineman...not the best on the team tho. FAR from it.

                    jeremy maclin. 73. - 55 catches, 762 yards, 4 tds. solid rookie year. now a starter...can be as good as he wants to. but since there are updates. we won't upgrade him until he deserves it.

                    nate allen - 60. 2nd round pick. a rookie...it makes no sense to rate rookies high for no reason.

                    just my 2 cents.
                    Last edited by Kushmir; 07-07-2010, 09:50 AM.
                    NOTE: Any and ALL of my suggestions are specifically and only related to Play Now Online.

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                    • DCEBB2001
                      MVP
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2569

                      #11
                      Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                      Originally posted by arsenal123gunners
                      Is it possible that we see a roster created with the new attributes that someone posts that we can download?
                      We will be producing roster files and draft classes in our downloads section for download.
                      Dan B.
                      Player Ratings Administrator
                      www.fbgratings.com/members
                      NFL Scout
                      www.nfldraftscout.com/members

                      Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
                      https://www.change.org/p/ea-sports-t...bers-index-php

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                      • DCEBB2001
                        MVP
                        • Nov 2008
                        • 2569

                        #12
                        Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                        Originally posted by Bash
                        BS!
                        They are the two best QBs in the league right now, but Manning has dropped to a 98 as well.
                        Dan B.
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                        • DCEBB2001
                          MVP
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2569

                          #13
                          Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                          Originally posted by djack10jmac18
                          not to rip on this, because it is a very good idea and i would like to see more work on this, but these aren't very good. i like donny's ratings better. just taking a look at my eagles and i am already disappointed. they have brodrick bunkley who is a decent player, not an amazing star, rated higher than trent cole, a pro bowler and one of the best defensive ends in the whole league. then they have darryl tapp rated only 4 points less then cole. i have a problem with that. then they have sav rocca at a 86 overall. that is sad. i love the guy but he does not deserve an 86 overall. some more problems, jason avant is higher then jeremy maclin, nate allen is given a miniscule 54 after being selected with the 37th pick in the draft, lesean mccoy is a 72 when i think he deserves to be pushin about 80 (he did great in his rookie year and proved he can start for the eagles and even replace brian westbrook), and they also have jamaal jackson as the best offensive lineman for the eagles when he is 3rd maybe 4th, and more. just by looking at one roster and seeing quite a bit of problems i don't think that the whole nfl ratings are accurate.
                          1. The ratings have not been updated for players that do not have an "O" for "Offseason Update" in their status. This means that players without the "O" are not rated correctly at the moment. Trent Cole, Jeremy Maclin, and McCoy are among them.

                          2. Rookies are rated lower than in the typical Madden system. When they go through the training camps and preseason, they will rise.

                          3. Injuries knock a player's rating down. Take this into account.

                          4. Jackson is presently the best rated OLman for the Eagles because he is one of the only ones to have been recently updated.

                          5. It takes about a week to do a few hundred players and rate them correctly. I have about 1/3 of 17000 already complete. Please be patient with the overalls and getting the data filled in. Once this initial phase is complete, ratings will be adjusted WEEKLY to fit current NFL trends during the season.
                          Dan B.
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                          Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
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                          • DCEBB2001
                            MVP
                            • Nov 2008
                            • 2569

                            #14
                            Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                            Originally posted by snowman5607
                            Yeah. Those ratings as of right now are a joke. Clinton Portis a 56? I know he's had a bad year and a half, but c'mon, man.
                            Portis is a 56 because he was placed on IR. When he is healthy and returns to the starting lineup, he will rise back to his usual rating. Injuries have a massive effect on the OVR rating.
                            Dan B.
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                            Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
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                            • DCEBB2001
                              MVP
                              • Nov 2008
                              • 2569

                              #15
                              Re: Old Madden Ratings Site Reborn Under New Management

                              Originally posted by Kushmir
                              i've played Madden for some time and i happened to like the ratings Madden 2003. ratings were much better and elite players ONLY were in the 90s. best part? 80 rated players were no slouch.

                              the biggest thing? people DID NOT progress too quickly and an 80 rating was considered VERY SOLID. haven't we learned from the examples of players like Michael Bennett and Reggie Bush? what about Roy Williams? (the safety) all these guys were grossly overrated based of one year after the ratings ballooned out of control. why is this important? because when one-year wonders have a pedestrian the year after, or a pedestrian couple of years....you're reducing them from 83 to a 78. not from a 90--that just looks bad.

                              funny thing? i'm an eagles fan too...here's the system. highest rating? 96. 97+ are reserved for the best to ever put on the uniform (rice, payton, marino, montana, ect..). elite players are 90+. average NFL starter? 70-74. 75-79 is for "above average" 80-84? this is for guys considered GOOD. 85-89 is for VERY GOOD, guys on the "cusp" of elite or veterans with 3 straight years at a high level of play. 65-69 is for solid bench contributors. 60-64 is your average bench player.

                              rookies are unproven commodities. they simply won't be overrated until we see what they can do. 1st round picks? 65-70. 2nd round picks? 60-64. third round picks? 50-59. after the third round? 40-49.

                              how do these ratings help? it helps players not be TOO GOOD. we've all seen what player ratings that are too high do to the game. they HURT it. it gives us a game where too many passes are caught, completed, intercepted and players are too fast, impossible to tackle and other manner of foolishness.

                              so here's the eagles:

                              Cole - 90. a good end, no doubt. but there are 5 or 6 guys better than he is. still elite tho...

                              Djack - 87. you're seeing he's not a 90 and you're about to die, right? good receiver no question. he's also not one-dimensional as people think--great route runner with GREAT hands. the issue? last year was his FIRST 1,000 yard season (he had 912 his first year i believe). giving any player with one thousand year season is just crazy. he can get those three points with another season like last year tho.

                              Tapp - 63. 7 sacks his first year and has gone down in sacks every year since...this was in seattle. a lower-level bench contributor.

                              Rocca - 70. any eagles fan knows this guy is average at BEST.

                              Avant - 67. a high level bench contributor. 41catches-583yds-3tds..good slot guy with good hands.

                              Mccoy - 72. an 80? how? 637 yds and 4tds as a rookie? he started a great deal too.when i think 80 i think of guys like darren sproles. proven commodities.

                              jamal jackson. 77 (coming off injury: woulda been an 81). yeah you're right...he's behind peters and herremans. good, solid lineman...not the best on the team tho. FAR from it.

                              jeremy maclin. 73. - 55 catches, 762 yards, 4 tds. solid rookie year. now a starter...can be as good as he wants to. but since there are updates. we won't upgrade him until he deserves it.

                              nate allen - 60. 2nd round pick. a rookie...it makes no sense to rate rookies high for no reason.

                              just my 2 cents.
                              You sir...GET IT! That is the whole idea behind the new FBG ratings! No more over-inflated ratings. Rookies do not earn their high ratings until they EARN it. That is the point. There are under 100 guys in the 90s in this system, so they are rare, but amazing on the field. Your average player? About a 70. This is how it is supposed to work. Thank you for your comments...I am glad someone gets it!
                              Dan B.
                              Player Ratings Administrator
                              www.fbgratings.com/members
                              NFL Scout
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                              Petition to EA for FBG Ratings:
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