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Quote: Originally Posted by Kushmir

"I'd love to philosophize ratings with you. You seem like you're really down to earth and critical about these things." anytime man...ratings might be the most important part to sports gaming. they determine how players are going to play. too high or inaccurate and the game can be HURT--badly. btw, i wanted to give jackson an 89 as well. 1400 yards last year and a 4 yard average the last 3 seasons swayed me tho... and i hear you on the "team" rating/stats thing. but there are so many positions where its hard to gauge their impact because they don't have a ton of measurables...prime example. i can look at a MLB's numbers and tell you how good his DTs are. SERIOUSLY. show me a team who stops the run, and a weakside LB with good numbers... i'll show you a 4-3 strongside LB and a strongside end who do their jobs well...even if he doesn't have the same sexy "sack" stats that the 3-4 guys and pure pass rushers get. or a ton of tackles... an example? pat williams of the vikes...44 tkls, 2 sacks and 2 FF's. not very "standoutish" right? but the vikes were 2nd against the run and allowed the least amount of rushing first downs by a pretty good margin. williams had ALOT to do with that...these are some of the things that can help determine a players rating w/o just relying on the "sexy" stats. another bad rating that stuck out to me recently? Sideny Rice (pasta told us its a 90) can someone explain to me why? is he a bad receiver? NOPE. Elite? far from it... last three years numbers? 31 - 396 - 4 15 - 141- 4 83 - 1312- 8 looks alot like robert brooks (former packer) to me. a quality receiver who'll put up numbers as long as the pieces are in place (really good running game, good QB, really good OL) elite receivers do this WITHOUT that stuff....should have the same numbers as Miles Austin 82/83 as they're basically mirror images of each other in terms of one good productive year. i need two more years at that level before we talk 90. because if favre doesn't come back and he goes for 54-852-6, whats his rating then?

Relying on stats though will get you in trouble. You can't rely on them. I would think that you should rely more on scouting data. If you want stats though, try to find insider stats. Profootballfocus has some great insider stats. They review every game, player, and snap throughout the year and find out how players do in situations. For your DTs you are so concerned about, they break down how well a DT did against the run. They even rate DE/OLBs different depending on the system they play in! Not a bad source, but I still prefer the scouting data we have, then simply convert those findings into ratings.